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So whats the consensus for Da:I after all? Do you love this game? Update: Finished trespasser OMG


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I suppose its possible.  I did not think there really was a recommended level for fights in DA O so if there is that might explain it.  DA 2 was worse though. 

 

Not really but if you get those skulls on the enemies it is going to be tough. Like going to Hafters woods at lvl 4 or something (and not just riding through that is).



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The game is great and enjoyable but there are some thing that need to be changed in the next game. They did amazing job with companions, the story is good but I think they lost a great opportunity with Corypheus. He should have had more time in the game. I prefer them to focus more on the story and less to create huge maps with all these side quests, especially when there is not main story in these regions! Cutscenes, cutscenes and more cutscenes, imagine the Crestwood story arc with cutscenes, or Emprise du Lion if they made them without all the side quests would be better and more enjoyable to replay the game again and again. What I hated? Shards, Rifts, Landmarks well you get it, I want to focus in the story and not go searching the whole country for keys to open doors! 

Bring Tactics back, more slots and unlimited potions. The skill system in Origins was practical, use something similar with companions and give us back our attributes, make statistics matter to build your character how you like. We need more abilities, Warriors need to control the battlefield bring back sustained abilities like bravery. Iam attacking with my mage and if the warrior does not use war cry everyone ignore him and comes at me. They need to generate the biggest threat in the battle immediately. Well I said enough, overall the game is 9/10 and Iam super excited about the future, story is fantastic so far.

 

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Yes. I like DA:I. Even maybe love it, if I go by the warm fuzzy feeling and happiness when I start it up.

 

DA:I has a lot going for it. But the fact that I like it, doesn't mean I don't mourn the death of the DA franchise of DA:O. I still do.

And it doesn't mean I like the combat and character system of DA:I. I don't. Even DA2 was "better" in that particular regard. I actually think the combat design is the worst I've ever seen in a game. I blame multiplayer, EA-marketing and EA game-design consultants.

 

But yeah, so much in DA:I is fabulous, the role-playing freedom, the emergent narrative, the exploring, the characters,.. -Yes, I suppose I love it.



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Yes. I like DA:I. Even maybe love it, if I go by the warm fuzzy feeling and happiness when I start it up.

 

DA:I has a lot going for it. But the fact that I like it, doesn't mean I don't mourn the death of the DA franchise of DA:O. I still do.

And it doesn't mean I like the combat and character system of DA:I. I don't. Even DA2 was "better" in that particular regard. I actually think the combat design is the worst I've ever seen in a game. I blame multiplayer, EA-marketing and EA game-design consultants.

 

But yeah, so much in DA:I is fabulous, the role-playing freedom, the emergent narrative, the exploring, the characters,.. -Yes, I suppose I love it.

That's certainly a unique reaction! :P  I think I can see what you mean, and I appreciate that you can appreciate DAI for its strengths without equating that to "better than DAO" or "a step in the right direction." DAI is clearly just a very different game from its predecessors.



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I like the game a lot and I feel the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.  The game has some serious flaws but it has some great things about it as well.  All the things they've added in the course of a year really help it out too.  Is it my favorite Bioware game ever?  No, but's still really awesome.       



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I'd say it's a mediocre game which has its moments. I still find it a less enjoyable game compared to the previous entries.

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I was meh til Trespasser.

 

Now I just want more. More Inquisitor. More Solas. Just more.



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No, this game has serious issues with it's subtitles. The text is incredibly hard to read, which ruins the experience immensly. The game is also incredibly over-grindy. It wasn't so bad when there was the 'power for a price glitch', since you could since I could save myself hours of useless fetch quests.

 

The protagonist is boring, and stale.  All of the emotion responses are overly neutral.

 

Slightly happy neutral

angry neutral

not even funny neutral.

 

Worst, and most boring Bioware game ever.

No, DA2 is. DAI is one of the worst though.... Ugh, i hate sluging through the fetch quests, but DA2 is the worst though. Nothing is more like the tiny map, while playing a never winning loser (Hawke), which really does make it suck. The Inquisitor always wins though.. and Coryphues is a horrible villian. The worst villian in the history of DA. No, actually that honor goes to Revan. Seriously, making us fight our past progie? Now, that's the worst villian ever, i hated killing Revan. I hated Bioware for making me kill Revan. Coryphues is dumbest villian ever... 



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No, this game has serious issues with it's subtitles. The text is incredibly hard to read, which ruins the experience immensly. The game is also incredibly over-grindy. It wasn't so bad when there was the 'power for a price glitch', since you could since I could save myself hours of useless fetch quests.

 

The protagonist is boring, and stale.  All of the emotion responses are overly neutral.

 

Slightly happy neutral

angry neutral

not even funny neutral.

 

Worst, and most boring Bioware game ever.

No, DA2 is. DAI is one of the worst though.... Ugh, i hate sluging through the fetch quests, but DA2 is the worst though. Nothing is more like the tiny map, while playing a never winning loser (Hawke), which really does make it suck. The Inquisitor always wins though.. and Coryphues is a horrible villian. The worst villian in the history of DA. No, actually that honor goes to Revan. Seriously, making us fight our past progie? Now, that's the worst villian ever, i hated killing Revan. I hated Bioware for making me kill Revan. Coryphues is dumbest villian ever... 



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No, DA2 is. DAI is one of the worst though.... Ugh, i hate sluging through the fetch quests, but DA2 is the worst though. Nothing is more like the tiny map, while playing a never winning loser (Hawke), which really does make it suck. The Inquisitor always wins though.. and Coryphues is a horrible villian. The worst villian in the history of DA. No, actually that honor goes to Revan. Seriously, making us fight our past progie? Now, that's the worst villian ever, i hated killing Revan. I hated Bioware for making me kill Revan. Coryphues is dumbest villian ever... 

 In the words of Hawke, "Whats a Revan?"

 

Did a car engine sound try to kill your character?



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In the words of Hawke, "Whats a Revan?"

Did a car engine sound try to kill your character?

No, it's the progie in KOTOR. I like hitting people with swords.

And the newer progie had to kill Revan. Dang. That ain't cool, Bioware. I suggest you stop messing up former progies camoes (which your incapable of.... Sense Hawke).

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No, DA2 is. DAI is one of the worst though.... Ugh, i hate sluging through the fetch quests, but DA2 is the worst though. Nothing is more like the tiny map, while playing a never winning loser (Hawke), which really does make it suck. The Inquisitor always wins though.. and Coryphues is a horrible villian. The worst villian in the history of DA. No, actually that honor goes to Revan. Seriously, making us fight our past progie? Now, that's the worst villian ever, i hated killing Revan. I hated Bioware for making me kill Revan. Coryphues is dumbest villian ever...


All the people who don't "get" Dragon Age 2 are ruining it for everyone else who thought DA2 was seriously THE BEST one, and now Bioware is going to deteriorate more and more. Fucj
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All the people who don't "get" Dragon Age 2 are ruining it for everyone else who thought DA2 was seriously THE BEST one, and now Bioware is going to deteriorate more and more. Fucj

 

LOL. Yeah, sometimes it is bad to be a minority amongst the minority of gamers ;) Not that I feel that DA2 was the best one, I don't actually hate the game and wished some of its aspects had remained in DAI.

 

As for the fetch quests, I am not opposed to fetch quests, but the fact is that in practice there is not much difference between the various maps (Crestwood and Hinterlands excepted). Even if DAO has the same type of quests, you finish the whole game in roughly 40 hours. You are not even halfway by that time in DAI. Since I have the feeling there are not more main quests in DAI than in DAO, all those other hours are filled with filler quests. Filler quests do get borring much quicker, but in multiple playthroughs they cannot all be avoided since you do need to raise those levels.


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To be quite honest, I absolutely hated the game at first. I thought the battle system changes were awful, I couldn't connect with any of the characters just because I was so irritated. The graphics looked choppy and I felt like I'd just dropped $60 to pay a sloppy beta of DAI. (I was playing on XBOX 360 :rolleyes: )

 

But as I played more (and got out of the Hinterlands, god help me) I found myself enjoying it. I wouldn't say I love this game, but I would say I've come to love the characters. I also wouldn't say it's in my top 5 favorite games, but I think I'm going to have to reconsider my stance once I get a next-gen and am able to play it on that.

 

I will NEVER be over the loss of using extra abilities outside of the 8 assigned ones, though.



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Really hate this game now. Especially for the final destruction of the dark fantasy world and turning it to harry potter fairy tale world. Not even talking about absence of the sidequest.
Can't even play it after wild hunt, everything looks so soulless.



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Fun game. I use the cheat editor to trigger dialogue a bit more often, but other than that after Trespasser I really liked the game(it was still a good game before the DLC), but I skip lots of the side quests now. The collecting and side quests were alright my first playthrough, but they have very little replay value, and I mostly stick to Inner Circle/Keep quests for my 'side content' in my replays. Trespasser did wonders for the game without it I think it is an above average game, but with it DA:I is a really good game IMO.



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All the people who don't "get" Dragon Age 2 are ruining it for everyone else who thought DA2 was seriously THE BEST one, and now Bioware is going to deteriorate more and more. Fucj


I get DA2. It was the game where none of my actions matters. And did you not play ME3? They're already deteriorated to the point where I think they'll never make a good game again.

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I get DA2. It was the game where none of my actions matters. And did you not play ME3? They're already deteriorated to the point where I think they'll never make a good game again.


If you didn't like any of DA2, DA:I or ME3, then , yeah, you're probably not going to like the next game either.

Conversely, I liked all three of those games (DA:I and ME3 more than DA2), so I'm in good shape.
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I thought it was OK but I didn't really enjoy it as much as other Bioware games. I thought the pacing in particular was tedious.

 

First of all I started the game but got bored and didn't finish. I just got divorced from the main story due to all the distractions which felt grindy, while I didn't enjoy the gameplay. I also struggled to get to know the companions, I guess a lot of their stories were buried with events further into the game which I didn't see, but they felt bland and I believe there were too many of them for good pacing.

 

I then tried again but there were serious clashes between the nVidia driver and Inquisition during cutscenes and the game was unplayable for a significant period of time. I gather this was actually largely nVidia's fault.

 

Finally I restarted and sticking mainly to the main story only I managed to play through and finish the game. It was about a 20 hour playthrough, so while I did a few extras, like some dragon killing and a couple of side missions, I am aware I probably only saw about 10% of the content. I assume there were companion quests for every companion, I completed 4 or 5 of them.

 

I did enjoy it so I started another play through intending to see more of the content I skipped in order to see the main plot. But once again I got bored and stopped shortly after skyhold so didn't really see much new stuff.

 

I tried MPer but found it was much laggier than ME3 MPer (which is a worry for MEA) and because I didn't really enjoy the gameplay I wasn't prepared to persevere and see if it was simply unlucky connections.

 

I generally don't like open world games or any game where you don't have a purpose. I never feel immersed in games you just wander around for the hell of it, especially when I don't really like the gameplay.

 

I can see why people like it, it just wasn't for me. I haven't bought or seen any of the DLC.


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I get DA2. It was the game where none of my actions matters. And did you not play ME3? They're already deteriorated to the point where I think they'll never make a good game again.

See I understand how you may feel, but I personally see a huge difference between DA2, Inquisition, and ME3.

I kind of can see the gripe with ME3, but I personally don't mind the ending. My gripe with ME3 was mostly the soulless side quests on the citadel, but they're not as bad as Inquisition. I rather liked the cinematic quality of ME3, and liked it, actually.

DA2 is a masterpiece and people need to back off. The characters, story, politics, everything was way better than in any other game. Real evolution in all the characters. Yes it used a smaller setting but honestly the best plays can take place in one single room. They used actual drama and I loved it. Also my choices were pretty damn pivotal. Literally standing over my lover's shoulder as he's looking away from me, expecting me to shiv him? But I don't? Yes I'd say that's a pivotal decision.

Finally, Inquisition is the worst. I honestly thought it was a debacle, some kind of broken game some executive was getting canned for, all the awards uncanny, purchased with wayward under-the-table industry deals. Literally a failure. TRESPASSER leveled everything up and made me feel like "oh my god this is what it could have been" and gave me a Bioware-lore-is-so-good high, but yeah. Just to salvage the failure meat of the main course rly.

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That said. The set up at the end of Trespasser for DA4 is mind-blowingly awesome. It's not as vague as the set up at the end of DA2. Remember when Cassandra finished interrogating Varric at the end of DA2 and she and Leliana looked super serious and we saw forces marching about, and these seekers, and Cassandra was like, "some sh* is going on"... It made me believe that, obviously Anders' explosion of the chantry had opened up a ~can of worms~ between the templars and mages. And all the circles were likely revolting, and all kinds of awesome holy wars were raging, and we'd get thrown into some pseudo-Crusadesesque fantasy. That would be the turmoil Cassandra eluded to.

Instead, we got some random Corypheus, which is a boss that should've stayed in the DLC and shouldn't have been interesting enough for the whole game. Yes, the idea of an ancient Tevinter magister is indeed mighty cool, but it is conflicting with the cool Crusadesesque holy wars I had been anticipating based on Anders' terrorist act. I mean there definitely is a can of worms latent in the idea of encountering an ancient Tevinter magister, but I feel like just throwing this guy out there with an instant dragon....so easily defeated and only encountered two or three times in the game...and his presence is not really felt, at all.... Huge let-down.


Also the holy wars and mage-templar conflicts were reduced to a handful of NPC fights scattered around one region of the Hinterlands. Wow rly? Where is the MEREDITH persona burning with righteousness to smite the magi? Where are the characters who care about what happened at the end of DA2, whose entire ambitions rely on it?

The Meredith/Orsino arguments in Kirkwall were effective at illustrating something larger at hand and I failed to feel that except in Trespasser.

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Where is the MEREDITH persona burning with righteousness to smite the magi? Where are the characters who care about what happened at the end of DA2, whose entire ambitions rely on it?

 

Probably in the canned EM expac.



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That said. The set up at the end of Trespasser for DA4 is mind-blowingly awesome. It's not as vague as the set up at the end of DA2. Remember when Cassandra finished interrogating Varric at the end of DA2 and she and Leliana looked super serious and we saw forces marching about, and these seekers, and Cassandra was like, "some sh* is going on"... It made me believe that, obviously Anders' explosion of the chantry had opened up a ~can of worms~ between the templars and mages. And all the circles were likely revolting, and all kinds of awesome holy wars were raging, and we'd get thrown into some pseudo-Crusadesesque fantasy. That would be the turmoil Cassandra eluded to.

Instead, we got some random Corypheus, which is a boss that should've stayed in the DLC and shouldn't have been interesting enough for the whole game. Yes, the idea of an ancient Tevinter magister is indeed mighty cool, but it is conflicting with the cool Crusadesesque holy wars I had been anticipating based on Anders' terrorist act. I mean there definitely is a can of worms latent in the idea of encountering an ancient Tevinter magister, but I feel like just throwing this guy out there with an instant dragon....so easily defeated and only encountered two or three times in the game...and his presence is not really felt, at all.... Huge let-down.


Also the holy wars and mage-templar conflicts were reduced to a handful of NPC fights scattered around one region of the Hinterlands. Wow rly? Where is the MEREDITH persona burning with righteousness to smite the magi? Where are the characters who care about what happened at the end of DA2, whose entire ambitions rely on it?

The Meredith/Orsino arguments in Kirkwall were effective at illustrating something larger at hand and I failed to feel that except in Trespasser.

If you think DA:Tevinter will be about Solas you will have bad day. I think it will again be something random. Like titan wake up under Tevinter. Of course we touch some other plot's like warden civil war, Qunari, some Solas, but not resolve it. Or I can be wrong, who knows.


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If you think DA:Tevinter will be about Solas you will have bad day. I think it will again be something random. Like titan wake up under Tevinter. Of course we touch some other plot's like warden civil war, Qunari, some Solas, but not resolve it. Or I can be wrong, who knows.


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If you didn't like any of DA2, DA:I or ME3, then , yeah, you're probably not going to like the next game either.
Conversely, I liked all three of those games (DA:I and ME3 more than DA2), so I'm in good shape.


DAI was okay. Sluggish, but okay. And I only watched ME3s horror on YouTube, so I'm good too. DA2 however, sucked.