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[Mercyva]

I like ''good guy gone mad or evil'' type of thing. especially if you already have a relationship of sort with that person/thing. it always fascinate me that someone can be so kind and pure and then turn pure evil. like what caused that/what happened? i like what i like but its all vague until being put in context. plus i dont like ''kill all evil OR that we should take that person down because he's evil'' i like the idea that anyone can be saved. GIVE ME the option if there's one- to actually save myself AND the person causing the problem, ofcourse thats all depend, after all not everyone can be saved. to be more with the mass effect world i liked how the illusive man was both good AND bad. you feel for him. but in the end you cant force someone to be what you think they are, they will always choose who they really are hope that all made sense, its just an idea

[Ibn_Shisha]

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[Vespervin]

That was hilarious. Thank you for sharing.

[Ibn_Shisha]

That was hilarious. Thank you for sharing.

lol, couldn't help it.  The first time I saw that I nearly asphyxiated, and now it's all that comes to mind anytime tDK is referenced.

 

All that aside, nihilistic villains can be good if done well (Joker, Kefka, etc.), just as motivated villains can be good if done well (the Brothers Sun, etc.). Main requirement for me is that they are written interestingly and effectively, whichever style is used.

[Kierro Ren]

No good or evil. No right or wrong. Just perspective.

[kalikilic]

I dont expect Bioware to surprise me in the villain department actually. I am expecting almost an entire rehash of Sovereign until more information is provided. would be interesting to see an TIM-type character expanded and placed as the main villain, a-la like what most of you are talking about. but i dont expect Bioware to have any desire to write a character like that. to me its not an over-used archetype personality either and would introduced great dynamics for story/plot

 

but i just dont think they would want to write a character like that. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scorpius is a villain so good that I want to f*** him! 

[Arcian]

Because they have no regard for anything except the end of everything, including themselves. It takes the thought of what it means to be "evil" and maxes it out to it's most extreme. A single goal of the end of everything and everyone; the villain's enemies, allies, minions etc...all ceasing to exist. The nonsensical corruption of a villain that insane is actually a rare find, and is something I highly admire.

Making a villain pure evil is about as appealing as making a cake pure flour, and both leave a rather disappointing taste in your mouth.

 

Also, evil isn't something as clearly defined as a lust for slaughter or destruction. A serial murderer or terrorist is evil, sure, but you also have non-violent forms of evil, for example, big bankers who have made huge amounts of money gambling with the deposits of millions of people, people who, as a result, have lost their jobs, life savings and homes, leaving them in crippling debt they can never repay and forcing them into wage slavery just to survive. Or pharmaceutical CEOs who drive up the prices of life-saving medicines to the point where the sick people who need them the most can't afford them. Or oil company CEOs who deliberately destroy the environment upon which all terrestrial life, including humans, rely on for their survival and well-being.

 

Anyone can kill but it takes a special kind of evil to sit and plan the systematic infliction of suffering against millions of ordinary people for personal gain.

[Master Warder Z_]

Making a villain pure evil is about as appealing as making a cake pure flour, and both leave a rather disappointing taste in your mouth.

Also, evil isn't something as clearly defined as a lust for slaughter or destruction. A serial murderer or terrorist is evil, sure, but you also have non-violent forms of evil, for example, big bankers who have made huge amounts of money gambling with the deposits of millions of people, people who, as a result, have lost their jobs, life savings and homes, leaving them in crippling debt they can never repay and forcing them into wage slavery just to survive. Or pharmaceutical CEOs who drive up the prices of life-saving medicines to the point where the sick people who need them the most can't afford them. Or oil company CEOs who deliberately destroy the environment upon which all terrestrial life, including humans, rely on for their survival and well-being.

Anyone can kill but it takes a special kind of evil to sit and plan the systematic infliction of suffering against millions of ordinary people for personal gain.

*sniffles* that was beautiful

[Heathen Oxman]

This topic is offensive.

 

I'm a woman and I just want to see the world burn.

 

Evilness knows no gender.

 

[Kalas Magnus]

This topic is offensive.

 

I'm a woman and I just want to see the world burn.

 

Evilness knows no gender.

 

yes. gender equality.

[ComedicSociopathy]

If I don't get to eat one baby in this game I'm DONE with this franchise!

[Karlone123]

I'd rather have complex characters that are somewhat believable in their own right. I find villains who are evil for the lolz are too simple-minded.

[Master Warder Z_]

yes. gender equality.

Evi doesn't care about that.

[Sylvius the Mad]



Ah, but you see? You've just exposed your desire to stop him, hence your invested interested.


But that decision isn't interesting. I'm effectively being pointed down the path and told to follow it.

Where's the gameplay?

War needs no explanation.
 Kill or be killed. There, that's your drama.

Which side are you on? War always starts with that question.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Anyone can kill but it takes a special kind of evil to sit and plan the systematic infliction of suffering against millions of ordinary people for personal gain.

And that's a much more defensible evil, as well. There are reasoned arguments to be made in favour of such behaviour.

Not so much with mindless destruction.

[9TailsFox]

Making a villain pure evil is about as appealing as making a cake pure flour, and both leave a rather disappointing taste in your mouth.

 

Also, evil isn't something as clearly defined as a lust for slaughter or destruction. A serial murderer or terrorist is evil, sure, but you also have non-violent forms of evil, for example, big bankers who have made huge amounts of money gambling with the deposits of millions of people, people who, as a result, have lost their jobs, life savings and homes, leaving them in crippling debt they can never repay and forcing them into wage slavery just to survive. Or pharmaceutical CEOs who drive up the prices of life-saving medicines to the point where the sick people who need them the most can't afford them. Or oil company CEOs who deliberately destroy the environment upon which all terrestrial life, including humans, rely on for their survival and well-being.

 

Anyone can kill but it takes a special kind of evil to sit and plan the systematic infliction of suffering against millions of ordinary people for personal gain.

I still hope we are the villain and antoginist is some special person or spec ops group trying to stop evil aliens invading Andromeda galaxy. of course not so simple (plot twist and stuff) but main idea like this. 

[Kouzai]

Making a villain pure evil is about as appealing as making a cake pure flour, and both leave a rather disappointing taste in your mouth.

 

Also, evil isn't something as clearly defined as a lust for slaughter or destruction. A serial murderer or terrorist is evil, sure, but you also have non-violent forms of evil, for example, big bankers who have made huge amounts of money gambling with the deposits of millions of people, people who, as a result, have lost their jobs, life savings and homes, leaving them in crippling debt they can never repay and forcing them into wage slavery just to survive. Or pharmaceutical CEOs who drive up the prices of life-saving medicines to the point where the sick people who need them the most can't afford them. Or oil company CEOs who deliberately destroy the environment upon which all terrestrial life, including humans, rely on for their survival and well-being.

 

Anyone can kill but it takes a special kind of evil to sit and plan the systematic infliction of suffering against millions of ordinary people for personal gain.

^THIS Perspective and the lesser of evils are a key part of any culture. Each day new evils (bullying ang theft to shooting up the local school) appear but many view the lesser acts as everyday rituals.

 

I love most villians but I love manipulaters and world burners a bit more. Those who cause chaos for chaos sake.

 

Then again I love the 'Discordian religion' since I truly believe Chaos is a neutral to beneficial force. Many of Man greatest and worst ideas and technology came during times of unrest. To that end Order's strict rule is oppressive and stagnant. Dead...

 

Whether that makes me a villian I know nt

[Kappa Neko]

I like ''good guy gone mad or evil'' type of thing. especially if you already have a relationship of sort with that person/thing. it always fascinate me that someone can be so kind and pure and then turn pure evil. like what caused that/what happened? i like what i like but its all vague until being put in context. plus i dont like ''kill all evil OR that we should take that person down because he's evil'' i like the idea that anyone can be saved. GIVE ME the option if there's one- to actually save myself AND the person causing the problem, ofcourse thats all depend, after all not everyone can be saved. to be more with the mass effect world i liked how the illusive man was both good AND bad. you feel for him. but in the end you cant force someone to be what you think they are, they will always choose who they really are hope that all made sense, its just an idea

So Solas then?^^

I'm shocked nobody has mentioned him yet. He's the kind of f**ed up character I enjoy a lot. Charming and chilling at the same time. He's savior and destroyer in one person.

 

Nothing is more scary than a villain who thinks he's doing the right thing. The openly crazy ones are fun in a cartoonish way. Corypheus was one big LOL to me. But Solas, man... beware of men who think they need to be martyrs for some twisted cause.

[Degrees1991]

I think the side quest villains are more just evil. Jacob's father for example just creep oh and that Dr Heart guy.

[Master Warder Z_]

I think the side quest villains are more just evil. Jacob's father for example just creep oh and that Dr Heart guy.

 

Jacob's father's last words should have been 'I REGRET NOTHING!'

 

.-.

 

Seriously, best use of decade ever.

[Synthetic Turian]

I think the side quest villains are more just evil. Jacob's father for example just creep oh and that Dr Heart guy.

 

Jacob's father and his mindless sex slaves. What a disgusting human.   

 

[Andrew Lucas]

It'll probably be that the Remnants want to rebuild their civilization. We turn up to to colonize and rebuild our civilization.
 
Natives screwed either way, except we won't burn the natives villages and  steal the coconuts like those evil remnants do.

That actually sounds really kewl.

[mybudgee]

This topic is offensive.

 

I'm a woman and I just want to see the world burn.

 

Evilness knows no gender.

 

 

Sadly there are far too many who think in this way...

[Linkenski]

They can make the villain truly twisted but they can't make the villain devoid of reason.