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Does anyone else feel bad about not liking Sera?


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I can't stand her. I mean, I get it, I understand her appeal, but I found the writing to be way too on the nose when trying to establish her as being "quirky" and anti-establishment. 

 

I want to like her, I really do, but I find her grating and especially with human characters (or even an elf, as she seems to despise dalish tradition) there seems to always be an RP reason why my Inquisitor wouldn't like her. 

 

Maybe if I play a noble hating dwarf we'll get along. Who knows. Am I alone here?



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You're not alone. She's was written to be divisive, just as Vivienne was, and judging by these boards they succeeded on both counts. I love her but understand why others don't. To see the best from her you need to accept her for who she is, which can be tough to do. Many don't and get frustrated that she won't "learn" from their wise words. It's understandable.


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You're not alone. She's was written to be divisive, just as Vivienne was, and judging by these boards they succeeded on both counts. I love her but understand why others don't. To see the best from her you need to accept her for who she is, which can be tough to do. Many don't and get frustrated that she won't "learn" from their wise words. It's understandable.

 

I can't wrap my mind around the dislike, honestly. I adore Sera. My husband hates her and tried to explain it to me once, but obviously I didn't agree.


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I don't understand why you'd feel bad for disliking her. I mean, if she's not to your tastes, that can't be helped. Why feel guilty?


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Nope. I don't like her but she has skills / connections that are useful. I recruit her mainly for those and talk to her as little as possible.



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Sera is awsome..



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There were times I wanted to kill her, but if you befriend her, she shows a lot of/some growth in Trespasser. 



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I friggin' love Sera, so that's not a problem.

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Sera is a bloody commoner living in a fantasy and mysterious world.

 

I'd say the reactions from players and reasoning behind them is pretty accurate. (both positive and negative ones)



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BraveVesperia

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No, I love Sera. But I get what you mean. I kind of feel the same way about Morrigan, Leliana and Alistair. I don't dislike them, and I can see why others might like them. Their personality, story, dialogue etc. But overall I'm just not that bothered about them. Sometimes I have moments when I'm fond of them. But it's not often. I don't know why.



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I can't stand her. I mean, I get it, I understand her appeal, but I found the writing to be way too on the nose when trying to establish her as being "quirky" and anti-establishment. 

 

I want to like her, I really do, but I find her grating and especially with human characters (or even an elf, as she seems to despise dalish tradition) there seems to always be an RP reason why my Inquisitor wouldn't like her. 

 

Maybe if I role a noble hating dwarf we'll get along. Who knows. Am I alone here?

 

Speaking as somebody who loves the shite out of Sera, I can assure you there is nothing wrong with disliking a fictional character even if said character happens to be my favourite in the history of Dragon Age. :P

 

There are a few characters I don't like, either. I don't feel guilty about it though. It is what it is.



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My response doesn't pertain to Sera specifically, but I will say that's she just isn't my cup of tea. Unfortunately, although I see the mostly-just nature of her Red Jenny activities, I'm not keen on them, either. I don't dislike her, I'm just not too into her. But I have completed the friendship arc with her (cookies!) and did find her pretty cute by the end. And I do have a great appreciation for people, and characters, that are loyal.

 

I will relate the topic to how I feel about the Zevran romance. His type of flirting and overt remarks make me uncomfortable and are a big turnoff for me. I have completed the full friendship arc many times, and from reading know that his romance is quite nice, and meaningful. BUT even knowing that I can't just say, "Well I will live with the (initial) discomfort because I know it's worth it in the end," because I want to be into the person from the get-go.

 

When I feel a dislike for certain followers there is a bit of... "guilt" isn't the correct word, but rather I think it's somewhat unfortunate.

 

But I suppose the thing with being friends with a personality type that I dislike is easier in a game because you have limited interaction with the person, and most of those interactions are on a ladder of increasing (or decreasing) your relationship with them, and adding to character growth. But that's not the case in real life, where a work/school mate's personality is something you just have to suffer with if you find them annoying.


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I think Sera is very interesting. My first time meeting her was kind of hilarious because even though I understood the words coming out of her mouth, for a while what she said made zero sense. It took me a while to understand her, but I like that sort of thing. I can understand how some people can find her off putting, but like others have pointed out, you don't have to feel bad about not liking a character.

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You don't need to feel bad about not liking a fictional character.

 

I wasn't fond of her at first either, in part because I couldn't understand her slang initially, but she really grew on me. I greatly respect her black/white view on good/evil and how people make excuses to justify doing bad things, which I feel is completely true. Ex: Every Loghain defender. It's in contrast to someone like Solas who sees good/evil in gray, and thus can "twist anything to fit anything" as Sera puts it.

 

I also found her views on elfyiness to be very refreshing; especially from an elven character. I've never liked the Dalish and their self-imposed segregation, whining about a past they never even experienced, blaming humans for it (which turns out to be bunk), etc. I feel Sera is dead-on there, and in her view to focus on the present. This applies to real-life people who follow tradition just because it's tradition, or feel some absurd kinship to dead people they never knew.

 

Sera's life has also been hard, including periods of being near-starving, and yet she doesn't play the victim and whine about it. She's very upbeat and doesn't try to make others feel bad for having it better ...unless they're a noble punching down.

 

She has her faults as well. She's very dismissive of the mage/templar conflict as them just causing trouble basically; pretty much having no sympathy for the mages because their rebellion is messing up her preferred world. That's just naive selfishness.

 

Also, her anti-elf views are so extreme that they discriminate against elves in the present. I'm with her on scorning those clinging to romanticized past-elf ideals, but criticizing people like Briala for working towards helping elves in the here and now is just stupid. Elves currently are treated poorly in large part just because they're elves. That shouldn't be ignored.

 

I can get why you wouldn't like her with what's presented; especially if you dislike the qualities about her I like. She also happens to be the only companion with a constant kick-out option, so maybe the developers suspected you'd feel this way (and intentionally didn't give such an option for Vivienne to vex us).


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I never felt bad when I didn't like Sera but after a while, I began to like her. I'll probably never romance her but most of my IQs become very good "sit on the roof" friends with her and those interactions are what got me to liking her a lot.  :)

 

I've never felt bad for despising Viv either. And even when some of my IQs become such good friends with her that she likes my decorating, I still don't like her.  :angry:



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I felt annoyed of her in my first playthroughs, and so, I didn't recruit her. But I began to like her better while not entirely agreeing with her. If you're an elf, you have more race-specific dialogues with her which can land in more disapproval.



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I can't stand her. I mean, I get it, I understand her appeal, but I found the writing to be way too on the nose when trying to establish her as being "quirky" and anti-establishment. 

 

I want to like her, I really do, but I find her grating and especially with human characters (or even an elf, as she seems to despise dalish tradition) there seems to always be an RP reason why my Inquisitor wouldn't like her. 

 

Maybe if I role a noble hating dwarf we'll get along. Who knows. Am I alone here?

 

Why should you feel bad about hating a fictional character?  I personally take glee in hating Sebastian from DA2 and make no apologies for it.  I actually like Sera quite a bit, but it took awhile to warm up to her.



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Nope, I don't feel bad about it at all.



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I can't wrap my mind around the dislike, honestly. I adore Sera. My husband hates her and tried to explain it to me once, but obviously I didn't agree.

You actually can't understand how someone could dislike her, or you just couldn't dislike her? I personally don't mind her and definitely warmed up to her in later playthroughs, but I never really tried to challenge her views after my first playthrough and I usually played as a human.



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No. She never grows. She never considers how f**ked up her views and arguements might be.



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You actually can't understand how someone could dislike her, or you just couldn't dislike her? I personally don't mind her and definitely warmed up to her in later playthroughs, but I never really tried to challenge her views after my first playthrough and I usually played as a human.

 

I don't get how people can dislike her. The most common complaints I've read are "annoying" and "immature" but as those are entirely subjective and I don't perceive her as either, it's entirely lost on me. I can't accurately express how surprised I was when I browsed BSN soon after completing DAI, saw a poll for "most disliked character," and saw Sera leading by leaps and bounds. I assumed Blackwall or Iron Bull would have earned that dubious honor.

 

It doesn't matter to me that people don't like her, it's just not something I get.

 

As an aside, I don't mind Blackwall and Iron Bull. I just find them a bit boring.


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^ So, you don't see how fart jokes and such are immature? I mean, sophomoric humor is fine if that's your thing, but it is immature, regardless of whether you also find it funny. And yes, that is one of the things I find annoying about her.

 

And honestly, I dislike how she loses control over herself and stomps that guy to death. When she calls the servants that tipped her off her "friends," she is only referring to a "friend" of Red Jenny, and not an actual person that she knows, so the outrage seems a bit extreme. While what he did was terrible -- and I agree that he IS a total "arsebiscuit," -- that behavior from her was unacceptable to me. Unfortunately, I can't really express that thought back at Skyhold, so I'm more or less stuck with the nice response.


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And honestly, I dislike how she loses control over herself and stomps that guy to death. When she calls the servants that tipped her off her "friends," she is only referring to a "friend" of Red Jenny, and not an actual person that she knows, so the outrage seems a bit extreme. While what he did was terrible -- and I agree that he IS a total "arsebiscuit," -- that behavior from her was unacceptable to me. Unfortunately, I can't really express that thought back at Skyhold, so I'm more or less stuck with the nice response.

Two things: First, she might also possibly be a bit pissed off that he set you and her up and had his goons ambush you. It's not just about what he did to her "friends." Second, she only kills him if you don't listen to her telling you to stop talking to him. If you deal with him quickly (don't ask him more than two questions, as I recall) she won't kill him. Actually if you have the nobility perk you can get him to become a servant of the Inquisition. She likes that quite a bit.


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I befriended her and kicked her out on separate play throughs and honestly I'm fairly meh about her now when before I disliked her.  She's okay but I find her too childish and ignorant and her voice grates on my nerves. 

 

Edit: Oh to answer the question, No I don't feel bad for not liking her.



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I like Sera. I get why some people don't, but I think that most of those people are joyless turds.

Then again, I don't like Zevran and whenever I play DA:O I usually kill him. So.

^ So, you don't see how fart jokes and such are immature? I mean, sophomoric humor is fine if that's your thing, but it is immature, regardless of whether you also find it funny.


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