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[Face of Evil]

I romanced Josie but voted Cullen. We can't let Solas' sobby tragic romance win.

[Teddie Sage]

I romanced Josie but voted Cullen. We can't let Solas' sobby tragic romance win.

I know how you feel, but let's not make this a personal agenda. Go with your heart first. It doesn't matter if Solas is more popular than the others. I believe all the romance candidates deserve to be loved equally.

[Cantina]

I romanced Josie but voted Cullen. We can't let Solas' sobby tragic romance win.

 

LMAO! I love you.

 

Maybe its just me, but I really don't get why people are so into the Solas romance.

 

Had enough of those tragic romances in real life, don't need it in my games.

 

But to each their own I suppose.

[lynroy]

I find it funny that on this forum, Solas romance was not this popular roughly a year ago. For me, it's his character that brings me back to the romance and not the tragic nature of it.

[Abyss108]

Voted Solas.

 

Nothing to do with whether it's "tragic" or not, I just find him to have the best personality. 

[Serza]

Sera. Hands down. Very misunderstood, even by other characters.

 

During The Woman Who Wants for Nothing, Pride tells you that she probably wants something human and fleeting...

But during the same quest, Sera claims that Inky telling everyone about them being in love is the best gift ever.

 

That means she did not want something "human and fleeting", but to be accepted and loved.

The best gift ever was that someone openly loved her, and on top of making no effort to hide it, they went out and told everyone.

 

Plus, she's very sweet during some moments. Yes, I said it. And yes, I mean it.

 

 

Nuff said!

 

Took me a while to realize that's THE WALL without a beard. Probably what he look like when he was still Rainier.

[lynroy]

For funnsies I did a quick search for other romance polls for comparison. Seems my perception of the popularity of the Solas romance on this forum was wrong.

 

This one is two separate polls for race/romance and class/romance from May this year.

http://forum.bioware...aylike-and-why/

Results for science:

These are total votes as of the time I did the math.

Race/Romance 

• Blackwall - 46
• Cassandra - 87
• Cullen - 131
• Dorian - 92
• Iron Bull - 93
• Josephine - 68
• Sera - 97

Class/Romance - much less people voted in this one.

• Blackwall - 3
• Cassandra - 37
• Cullen - 84
• Dorian - 22
• Iron Bull - 13
• Josephine - 21
• Sera - 18
• Solas - 62

 

 

Another one from May: http://forum.bioware...ourite-romance/

Results:

• Cassandra - 52
• Dorian - 29
• Blackwall - 17
• Sera - 32
• Iron Bull - 27
• Josephine - 16
• Cullen - 112
• Solas - 56

 

 

This one from January and Solas was in the top spot. http://forum.bioware...sition-romance/

Results:

• Solas -156
• Cullen - 130
• Cassandra - 62
• Dorian - 53
• Iron Bull - 48
• Sera - 31
• Josephine - 25
• Blackwall - 21

 

 

And here we have poll central from December last year. http://forum.bioware...ge-poll-thread/

Romance polls are more just "who did you romance?" and broken down by gender and race, but I'm combining total votes for everyone for the sake of simplicity.

Results*:

• Cassandra - 73 (49)
• Dorian -68 (41)
• Iron Bull - 82 (33)
• Josephine - 65 (38)
• Sera - 67 (29)
• Blackwall - 36 (15)
• Cullen - 103 (91)
• Solas - 177 (162)

*Number in parentheses is the result from the General Romance poll 

[ComedicSociopathy]

Poor Blackwall gets so little love. 

[Teddie Sage]

Update
---
1. Solas
59 votes (37%)
2. Cullen
32 votes (20%)
3. Cassandra
22 votes (14%)
4. Dorian
14 votes (9%)
5. Sera
13 votes (8%)
6. Josephine
7 votes (4%)
7. Iron Bull
7 votes (4%)
8. Blackwall
4 votes (3%)
158 total votes
---
Lynroy, I think I'll quote that post in the OP.

[Teddie Sage]

There, second post is now reserved for interesting stats we found online about polls.

[Cantina]

Poor Blackwall gets so little love. 

 

Sorry sweetie, but he creeps me out. Between looking like my Dad and his really creepy romance scenes. Excuse me but I just felt a shiver go up my spine thinking about it.

[Teddie Sage]

He doesn't seem that old when you play an older Inquisitor to romance him, I think. I've been thinking about doing an elder Qunari lady once to date him or even a dwarf lady who's about in the middle of her forties and near the start of her fifties. Greyish hair starting to appear, etc.

[Bad King]

(Disgusted noise)

 

Solas' relevance to the plot is that he spares you from a fate he inflicted on you, shows you Skyhold, and offers some pointers about elven stuff and the Fade.

 

Cassandra protects you from the Chantry, raises you up as the Inquisitor, and gives advice on all things plot related.

 

Solas' relevance to the plot is the Breach and how it happened, and now his own sinister plan to destroy the world. Cassandra is relevant to the whole game. She's connected to the Chantry and the Divine (the person and the position), the Mages and Templars, the Seekers, the current and previous Inquisition, the Champion, red lyrium, dragon slaying, even the Orlesian court (Hero of Orlais). She can also be romanced by a male of any race. Solas can only be romanced by a female elf. He always ends his romance. Cassandra will only end it if required to become Divine. Cassandra is honest with you from start to finish. Solas almost always lies to you and keeps many secrets.

 

In my view Solas is more relevant to the plot than Cassandra for the following reasons (in a haphazard order):

 

1). He gave the orb to Corypheus thus initiating the whole crisis.

2). He offers numerous key insights in the elven temple mission (to the extent that without him in the party, the quest feels shallow in comparison) and has a personal conversation with Abelas.

3). He has the strongest views of any other party member on the various factions you come across in the main quest: the mages (only Vivienne trumps him in this case), templars and wardens. Thus, he is also highly relevant to all of the game's quests (perhaps excepting the Orlesian quest though even then he has things to say about Briala).

4). He turns out to be the dreadwolf during a scene in which he appears to kill Flemeth who has been a key character in the Dragon Age universe since the very beginning (with 'The Stolen Throne')!

 

Cassandra is certainly the second-most important party member to the main plot, but helping to found the Inquisition, making you Inquisitor and being one of three Divine candidates doesn't really compare to any of what Solas offers in my view, and after reaching Skyhold, she takes a bit of a back seat in the story. True, Cassandra can be romanced by any race, but for these reasons her romance is far more disconnected from your racial background while Solas's romance strongly connects with Lavellan's culture and ethnic identity which adds more depth and meaning to your race choice.

[Absafraginlootly]

I've only played two of the romances thus far so I don't know which romance is best. I'll have a better idea when I've played some more of my planned characters.

[Al Foley]

This is a really tough one.  Ihave only run through two of the romances.  Cassandra's and Cullen's.  But I have seen most of the clips from most of the others.  And still...choosing between those two are difficult.  I guess the only other one which offers them any compeition would be Solas's.  The angst man.  Hmmm.  Maybe Josie's too just for the pure romanticism of it.  

[DragonKingReborn]

Voted Cass, having also done IB with a Qunari female and Josie with a male dwarf. I've thought they were all pretty good at the time of playing them, for different reasons. Bull made me laugh, Josie made me smile (because I didn't understand the Disney princess thing until I'd experienced it) and Cass was...comfortable, I guess. Familiar.

Trying Blackwall with an Elven Inquisitor next, though I'm currently on a break from DA:I on my second W3 playthrough.

I've never had any interest in the Solas or Cullen plot lines, which is weird, I guess, especially given what we know post-Trespasser.

[Dai Grepher]

In my view Solas is more relevant to the plot than Cassandra for the following reasons (in a haphazard order):

 

1). He gave the orb to Corypheus thus initiating the whole crisis.

2). He offers numerous key insights in the elven temple mission (to the extent that without him in the party, the quest feels shallow in comparison) and has a personal conversation with Abelas.

3). He has the strongest views of any other party member on the various factions you come across in the main quest: the mages (only Vivienne trumps him in this case), templars and wardens. Thus, he is also highly relevant to all of the game's quests (perhaps excepting the Orlesian quest though even then he has things to say about Briala).

4). He turns out to be the dreadwolf during a scene in which he appears to kill Flemeth who has been a key character in the Dragon Age universe since the very beginning (with 'The Stolen Throne')!

 

Cassandra is certainly the second-most important party member to the main plot, but helping to found the Inquisition, making you Inquisitor and being one of three Divine candidates doesn't really compare to any of what Solas offers in my view, and after reaching Skyhold, she takes a bit of a back seat in the story. True, Cassandra can be romanced by any race, but for these reasons her romance is far more disconnected from your racial background while Solas's romance strongly connects with Lavellan's culture and ethnic identity which adds more depth and meaning to your race choice.

 

Thanks for replying. I'll take the Pepsi challenge with Cassandra against Solas any day of the week.

 

1. Cassandra is more aware of what Corypheus is than Solas because she listened to Varric's account.

 

2. Won't argue that he has more insight into the elven stuff, but Cassandra has more relevance to the confrontations against Calpernia or Samson.

 

3. I'm not sure how his views are any stronger than Cassandra's, especially since Cassandra works directly with the mages and templars on various levels (especially if Divine).

 

4. She turns out to be a recovered tranquil, and all the implications that go along with that. The Inquisitor doesn't see the scene with Solas and Flemeth, and even in Trespasser is never told anything about it. Plus, we don't know what happened to Flemeth yet. And to be fair, Solas' association is with Mythal. Not Flemeth. Meeting with Flemeth was a mere side-effect of seeking out that part of Mythal and the eluvian.

 

I don't see how Cass takes a backseat after Skyhold. In fact, I thought it was Solas who did for the most part. The siege on Adamant? She's a warrior, and you need warriors to help fight a fortress full of warriors. The Champion is there, and she knows the Champion's backstory. You fight demons and a dragon, and Cass has experience in both (Dawn of the Seeker).

 

Then there's the Fade section. You meet the spirit who was emulating Divine Justinia. Completely relevant to Cassandra. I'd also like to point out the Nightmare's taunts. To Solas he says something in ancient elvhen that only Solas understands, and he responds in kind. The player doesn't know what was said, and if you look it up in real life it's all about Solas and his plans. The taunt against Cassandra on the other hand... is about the Herald. The Nightmare tries to discourage her with doubt about the Herald being a fraud and her faith a lie. She rejects the Nightmare's words, which shows confidence in the Inquisitor. And also, if Hawke is left behind and Varric is in the party, Cassandra will try to offer her condolences to him.

 

There's also better interaction between her and Varric than Solas and Varric.

 

Also, the game of Wicked Grace. Cass is sitting right next to you. Solas is nowhere to be found.

 

Personal quests? Take down Lucius on a unique map vs. take down some Fade rocks in a small part of the WORST map in the game (Exalted Plains). Also, let Solas kill some defenseless mages if you want him to like you more.

 

Interesting point, though I disagree with it in a way. First, I understand the point that her being attracted to every race sort of... cheapens the romance. I agree that Solas' exclusivity makes it more meaningful. But, from a gameplay perspective this is more convenient for the player. You are not forced into a specific character in order to romance Cass. In other words, you have more freedom to design the character you want. With Solas, you are forced to design one of two characters. One that agrees with him completely, or one that agrees with him just enough for the romance to trigger. And logically, Cassandra's varied spectrum of possible mates can be negated if you romance her only with the one race you want. I for example, romanced her with a male human mage, and I will not romance her in any other playthroughs. So in my headcanon, she technically is an exclusively human romance.

 

Spoiler

Also, it shows she's not a racist like Solas is.

 

Now for a counter point within this same thought process. If we are to look at disconnect, then what about Solas' disconnect from the romanced female elf? The fact that he is Fen'Harel puts him above and beyond anything the female Dalish elf is, doesn't it? Solas knows all these things that he refuses to share with the female elf, despite the fact that it's her relevant history. Compare that to Cassandra, who is ignorant of all the mysteries along with the Inquisitor and is on the same level with him trying to figure it all out as he does. So Fen'Harel...way up here. Cassandra... right next to you.

[KumoriYami]

var lath vir suledin....

 

*sighs* I would have voted Cullen a year ago but now... Solas. Only Solas for solace. lol.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Lady Ambassador Josephine "Scribbles" Cherette Montilyet. 

[correctamundo]

Sera. Hands down. Very misunderstood, even by other characters.

 

During The Woman Who Wants for Nothing, Pride tells you that she probably wants something human and fleeting...

But during the same quest, Sera claims that Inky telling everyone about them being in love is the best gift ever.

 

That means she did not want something "human and fleeting", but to be accepted and loved.

The best gift ever was that someone openly loved her, and on top of making no effort to hide it, they went out and told everyone.

 

Plus, she's very sweet during some moments. Yes, I said it. And yes, I mean it.

 

 

Took me a while to realize that's THE WALL without a beard. Probably what he look like when he was still Rainier.

 

Yep that is the man, the myth, the WALL. =)

 

But, you may have convinced me about the Bull Sera conundrum =)

[lynroy]

Lynroy, I think I'll quote that post in the OP.

Cheers, Teddie.

[d1ta]

Cullen. Romanced him once, stuck with him forever
No matter how hard I try. I just can't seem to click on another LI's heart icon. Once I did, I reload and pretend it never happened XD (omg BW what have you done to me??? XD..)

The Wall is friendzoned
The Egg is hahren (I'm an elfy2 person)

[Al Foley]

I still think the best romance in the three games is Anders's. 

[ZhengAn]

Got to agree with Grepher here, and not just because I voted for Cassandra too. But because it seems to me that, Solas is to Women what Morrigan is to Male fans of the series.

Have to disagree. While I like both cullen and solas romance, I think cullen is more the one who is "to women what morrigan is to male fans"

 

Edit: Nothing.Sorry I misread your post. I thought you are talking about fan service.

Modifié par ZhengAn, 21 novembre 2015 - 10:59 .

[sniper_arrow]

I like Cassandra more than Cullen and Solas. Hers heavily emphasized passion into the relationship and seeing her soft side made me like her more.