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[FMP2013]

I've got all Hakkons and the others lvl 26 weapons. Also have got some LVL 27 too(the shield and 2 1-handed). But I have the impression that Hakkons are the best anyway.

In your opinion, whats the best weapons/acessories for each class?

I use Hakkons on all classes, some times, Valos Atrendum on LEGO for guard generation. Hakkon + savage torn on dual wielding classes. Bloody bargain when I think theres no need for too much guard.

Storm belt on AW, health on the rest. Ammulet of accord on squeashy classes like Archer, cooldown on LEGO, cunning on the rest. Don't have the PI yet.

HoK rings if the weapon hok is bellow 15%, crit chance otherwise. DR ring on Reaver.

[JiaJM98]

Hakkon all the way assuming you have decent cunning. If you have the Crescent Shadow then use this instead on Lego and Templar.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

IMO:
Lego:

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Abilities: Counterstrike, Shield Bash+, Shield Wall, To The Death+
Hakkon LS
March of the Everlasting (Shield)
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Shield Bash Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Katari:

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Abilities: Charge+, Mighty Blow+, Grapple Chain, Pommel Strike+
Dancer's Axe
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
x2 Crit Damage Rings (I don't need HOK with this)
or
Crit Damage + HOK Ring

Assassin:

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Abilities: Hidden Blades+, Flank Attack+, Shadow Strike+, Twin Fangs+
Bosun's Blade + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Hidden Blades Ring
HOK Ring (just in case)

Archer:

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Leaping Shot, Spring Trap, Explosive Shot+, Caltrops+
Hakkon Bow (has +Attack and HOK)
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Leaping Shot Ring
Crit Damage or Flanking Damage Ring

Ele:

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Abilities: Lightening Bolt+, Arcane Barrage, Winter's Grasp+, Immolate
Hakkon Staff
Storm Pact Belt
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Lightening Bolt Ring
HOK Ring

Keeper:

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Barrier, anything else really. Never played much
Passive: The one that freezes after barrier is gone
Hakkon Staff
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Barrier Ring
Crit Damage Ring

Alchy:

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Mines+, Fire Flask+, Shadow Strike+, Stealth+
Bloody Bargain + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
x2 Crit Damage Rings

Necro: I am not the best for this, I played her like..2 promotes lol

Reaver:

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Abilities: http://forum.bioware...w-nm-solo-video
Hakkon GS
Superb Belt of Urgency
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Ring of Attack
Dragon Rage Ring

Templar: I play her with 2 builds
Wombo Combo:

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Abilities: Wrath of Heaven, Spell Purge+, Shield Wall, Shield Bash+
Hakkon LS
March of the Ever Lasting
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Crit Damage Ring
HOK Ring

Body Guard:

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Abilities: Shield Wall, Shield Bash+, Body Guard+, Livid+
Hakkon LS
Knight's Second or Emporers Shield
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Shield Bash Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Hunter:

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Abilities: Stealth+, Full Draw, Leaping Shot+, Spring Trap
Tezpadam's Bane
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Crit Damage Ring

AW:

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Abilities: Chain Lightening+, any other four abilities
Fade Shield is only important passive
Hakkon Staff
Storm Pact Belt
Amulet of Magic
Chain Lightening Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Avaar:

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Charge+, Smash+, Lady's Wrath+, Crushing Leap+
Hakkon GS
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Crit Damage or another HOK Ring

Duelist:

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Abilities: Bolt, Flashing Steel+, Ambush, Broadsides+
x2 Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Ring of Attack (+20% Attack)

Virtuoso:

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Abilities: Powercord+ (or Hotlicks) Armor Buff, Attack Speed Buff
Passives: Encore is necessary
Hakkon Staff
Lightening Pact Belt
Amulet of Physical Immunity (Perilous)
Amulet of Renewal (NM)
HOK Ring
Power Cord Ring or Hot Licks Ring

Silent Sister:

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Abilities: Throwing Blades+, Hidden Blades+, Charge, any other ability
Passives: Flow of Battle
Bloody Bargain + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Hidden Blades Ring
Throwing Blades Ring

Saarebas:

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I never had a set build
Heart of Pride
Superb Belt of Urgency or Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Crit Damage Ring
HOK Ring

My weapon attachments: I can't remember the exact values for all of these so I apologize ahead of time. Next time I play I will update with exact values and on which upgrade it is one.

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Hakkon Longsword:
Dense Longsword Grip- +9% AP +21% Crit Damage

Hakkon Greatsword:
Butterfly Greatsword Grip- +17% Attack
Wrapped Pommel- +17% Attack

Hakkon Staff:
Thin Staff Grip- +27% Barrier Damage
Battlemage Staff Blade- +18% Barrier Damage +5 Magic

Hakkon Daggers:
1: Ornate Dagger Grip- +18% AP +9% Crit Damage
^^Duelist Dagger
2: Ornate Dagger Grip- +10% Attack +9% Flank Dmg

Hakkon Bow:
Engraved Longbow Grip- +21% Attack +12% HOK

Dancer's Axe:
Bound 2Handed Haft- +27% Crit Damage
Wrapped Pommel- +16% Attack

Bloody Bargain:
Ornate Dagger Grip- +18% AP +9% Flank Dmg

Bosun's Blade: only the rune because it is it's only slot

Tezpadam's Bane: only rune slot available

Once again these are all just in my personal opinion. Not saying it will work with everything, just with what I do.

[vicioussss450]

definitely gonna bookmark this thread, thank you ThatBruhYouDK

sorry cant give information, still newbs only got superb belt of health, 1 hakkon only. I always use heal on kill in every weapon upgrade, 

 

if its not trouble could also give us information about weapon and armor upgrade that you used (pomel, haft, etc)..

[ThatBruhYouDK]

definitely gonna bookmark this thread, thank you ThatBruhYouDK
sorry cant give information, still newbs only got superb belt of health, 1 hakkon only. I always use heal on kill in every weapon upgrade,

if its not trouble could also give us information about weapon and armor upgrade that you used (pomel, haft, etc)..

Everyone starts somewhere. I remember going the longest time without all the hakkons lol.
I can do that. Just going to edit the post above for it.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I put what I know ATM into the above post by me. Will update when I know exacts

[Jugger nuggss]

PI

[Jugger nuggss]

IMO:
Lego:

Spoiler

Hakkon LS
March of the Everlasting (Shield)
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Shield Bash Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Katari:

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Dancer's Axe
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
x2 Crit Damage Rings (I don't need HOK with this)
or
Crit Damage + HOK Ring

Assassin:

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Bosun's Blade + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Hidden Blades Ring
HOK Ring (just in case)

Archer:

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Hakkon Bow (has +Attack and HOK)
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Leaping Shot Ring
Crit Damage or Flanking Damage Ring

Ele:

Spoiler

Hakkon Staff
Storm Pact Belt
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Lightening Bolt Ring
HOK Ring

Keeper:

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Hakkon Staff
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Barrier Ring
Crit Damage Ring

Alchy:

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Bloody Bargain + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
x2 Crit Damage Rings

Necro: I am not the best for this, I played her like..2 promotes lol
Reaver:

Spoiler

Hakkon GS
Superb Belt of Urgency
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Crit Damage Ring
Dragon Rage Ring

Templar: I play her with 2 builds
Wombo Combo:

Spoiler

Hakkon LS
March of the Ever Lasting
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Crit Damage Ring
HOK Ring

Body Guard:

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Hakkon LS
Knight's Second or Emporers Shield
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Shield Bash Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Hunter:

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That 150% Explode on Kill lvl 27 Bow
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Crit Damage Ring

AW:

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Hakkon Staff
Storm Pact Belt
Amulet of Magic
Chain Lightening Ring
HOK or Crit Damage Ring

Avaar:

Spoiler

Hakkon GS
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Crit Damage or another HOK Ring

Duelist:

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x2 Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
HOK Ring
Ring of Attack (+20% Attack)

Virtuoso:

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Hakkon Staff
Lightening Pact Belt
Amulet of Physical Immunity (Perilous)
Amulet of Renewal (NM)
HOK Ring
Power Cord Ring or Hot Licks Ring

Silent Sister:

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Bloody Bargain + Hakkon Dagger
Superb Belt of Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Hidden Blades Ring
Throwing Blades Ring

Saarebas:

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Heart of Despair
Superb Belt of Urgency or Health
Amulet of Physical Immunity
Crit Damage Ring
HOK Ring

My weapon attachments: I can't remember the exact values for all of these so I apologize ahead of time. Next time I play I will update with exact values and on which upgrade it is one.

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Hakkon Longsword: +Attack and +Crit Damage
Hakkon Greatsword: +Attack and +Crit Damage
Hakkon Staff: +Magic and +Attack
Hakkon Daggers:
1: +Flanking Damage and +Attack
2: +Armor Pen and +Attack. This one is for the Duelist, she has no Armor Pen
Hakkon Bow: +Attack and +HOK
Dancer's Axe: can't recall ATM, will update when I find out
Bloody Bargain: can't recall ATM, will update when I find out
Bosun's Blade: can't recall ATM, will update when I find out
Trezpadans Bow (or however it is spelled, the 150% Explode on Kill one): can't recall ATM, will update when I find out

Once again these are all just in my personal opinion. Not saying it will work with everything, just with what I do.

Good stuff bud. Gonna try some of these out

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Good stuff bud. Gonna try some of these out

Let me know how you do! 

[Jugger nuggss]

Let me know how you do!

Just ran that awesome Necro build of yours, it was shite

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Just ran that awesome Necro build of yours, it was shite

I hate Necro so much. Idk why. I can play her really well but she is so boring to me. I stopped after 2 promotes

[Jugger nuggss]

I hate Necro so much. Idk why. I can play her really well but she is so boring to me. I stopped after 2 promotes

I never liked her either. I tried! I will say that throwing WB into a mob and see them all explode is fun though

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Updated my post with all the values and a few edits! Hope you like it

[UstKust]

Good builds. I use PI on AW, because he tanking much in my hand...
Also can recommend use Andruil gift to Hunter (if you have it).
Build for Necro:
Heart of despair
Winter Pact Belt
HOK ring
Crit damage ring
Amulet of Magic
Saarebas- maybe Heart of Pride? (you mean?).
& since I have Crescent Shadow- use it Lego & Templar with Isatunnol.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Good builds. I use PI on AW, because he tanking much in my hand...
Also can recommend use Andruil gift to Hunter (if you have it).
Build for Necro:
Heart of despair
Winter Pact Belt
HOK ring
Crit damage ring
Amulet of Magic
Saarebas- maybe Heart of Pride? (you mean?).
& since I have Crescent Shadow- use it Lego & Templar with Isatunnol.

Thank you for pointing out the Saarebas mistake. I fixed it

[Beerfish]

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[ThatBruhYouDK]

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I wouldn't put it on everyone;

Virtuoso- Amulet of Renewal
AW- Fade Cloak

[BA_Productions]

Ill just name my dagger combos since all else is obvious and reasons for using daggers.

 

Assassin: Hakkons + Bosun = Insane flank damage, insta kills in nightmare and heartbreaker

 

Alchemist: Hakkons + Silencer = Bombs crit high plus more explosions means more hidden blades

 

Duelist: Hakkons + Bloody Bargain = Fast high damage crossbow shots. I can go through matches on peri using only the crossbow

 

Silent Sister: Hakkons + Savage Thorn = More guard plus more damage from crits. Basically a rogue AW

[vicioussss450]

So bosun blade currently only good for assasin

[Sothalor]

You can probably get away with Bosun's on an Alchemist as well. The problem with Bosun is that it's extremely positioning-dependent, which means you need a way to consistently and reliably drop aggro and reposition - AKA Stealth.

 

The Duelist and Silent Sister can't do that: it's probably more effort than its worth. Just repeatedly stab things in the face with those classes (or shoot them with a cannon, in Izzy's case  )

[TheThirdRace]

Bosun Blade is amazing paired with a Bloody Bargain on both Assassin and Alchemist.

 

I know it's unusual to play the Alchemist as an Assassin, but having completed my 250 games on the Assassin I decided to try it... Oh boy! I completely wreck things on Nightmare with the Alchemist and it's a tad slower than the Assassin so imagine how good it makes the Assassin...

 

As Sothalor said, Bosun Blade is extremely positioning dependent. Sure, Stealth is handy to drop aggro, but it's crucial to pass thru enemies to position yourself for a backstab. The Silent Sister and the Duelist lack Stealth and generate a lot of aggro which means every enemy will face you which in turn makes the Bosun Blade a lot less efficient.

 

I'm also not so sure the Bosun Blade is reducing your attacks to only 10% damage from the front. I think it's bugged and it actually give you +10% damage instead. From time to time you'll have to use Bosun Blade from the front and you'll realize you still do great damage. Of course, it's not flanking 500% damage, but it's not lower than you'd get if you were using another dagger. Which leads me to believe the Bosun Blade doesn't actually reduce your damage, but simply give you +10% from the front and +500% from the back. I haven't tested it thoroughly, it's just the impression I've got from simply enjoy playing with that thing...

[JohnnyQPublic]

Which leads me to believe the Bosun Blade doesn't actually reduce your damage, but simply give you +10% from the front and +500% from the back. I haven't tested it thoroughly, it's just the impression I've got from simply enjoy playing with that thing...

 

Agreed.  I've never noticed Bosun reducing front damage in my own usage either, nor have the people I play with.  

 

Duelist: Hakkons + Bloody Bargain = Fast high damage crossbow shots. I can go through matches on peri using only the crossbow

 

This works amazingly well in perilous, but in nightmare, you don't benefit nearly as much from Bloody Bargain because kills happen so much slower.  I would argue that double Hakkons are much better for her on nightmare.

[vicioussss450]

Bosun Blade is amazing paired with a Bloody Bargain on both Assassin and Alchemist.

I know it's unusual to play the Alchemist as an Assassin, but having completed my 250 games on the Assassin I decided to try it... Oh boy! I completely wreck things on Nightmare with the Alchemist and it's a tad slower than the Assassin so imagine how good it makes the Assassin...

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I'm also not so sure the Bosun Blade is reducing your attacks to only 10% damage from the front. I think it's bugged and it actually give you +10% damage instead. From time to time you'll have to use Bosun Blade from the front and you'll realize you still do great damage. Of course, it's not flanking 500% damage, but it's not lower than you'd get if you were using another dagger. Which leads me to believe the Bosun Blade doesn't actually reduce your damage, but simply give you +10% from the front and +500% from the back. I haven't tested it thoroughly, it's just the impression I've got from simply enjoy playing with that thing...

@thethirdrace, did you see my comment or you completely read my mind? , a while ago i wrote a question about the 10% bb description thing, but i think my post not delivered cz signal problem

I just get a bosun blade so havent try it yet
N' iam not a fan with assasin either so maybe ill use it to my SS, since iam playing SS often together with AW. N' AW agro first due to CL so i get a advantages in that situation to stick my dagger in the butt.


How excatly you play ur alchemist? Any video footage? I never play alchemist ( only 200hour playing daimp for now) Gonna role my alche as a ninja if possible , green poison then poof dissapear XD

[vicioussss450]

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Whats the hakkon name for dagger?
Whats the good from it.

Oh and btw, if your cunning already on 200 did it does crit every time you do a basic attack and skill?

[JohnnyQPublic]

I agree with a lot of what ThatBruh posted above, but not all.  Recognizing that those are his favorite builds and he is not claiming they are the "best," I'd suggest the following:

 

For the Templar and Legionnaire, I prefer Crescent's Shadow over the Hakkon LS.  For a taunt/shield wall/support XP Lego build, I use the Isatunoll shield over MotE.

For the Elementalist, the storm pact belt?  Hell no.  I use Superb Belt of Health, but if you must use a pact belt, use inferno.

For the AW, the amulet of magic isn't good enough to give up the PI amulet.  Yes, I know about Fade Cloak.

For the Virtuoso, using a storm pact belt is only for the highly promoted.  At least with the winter pact belt + Cool Beats, you can use Heart of Despair for extra damage resistance.  But I usually just go with the ol' standby, Superb Belt of Health.

For the Sister, I still prefer Savage Thorn in the off-hand on nightmare.  Guard for days.