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Even Fallout 4 does Side-quest and general non-main quest content BETTER


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I have 40 hours with Fallout 4, just wandered into Vault 81, no spoilers but that one place was vastly superior in content and quality than all of the Stormy Coast, Oasis, and Fallowmire put together. Also there are dialogue cutscenes as well. 

 

What else does Fallout 4 do better? Exploration for one, and the fun of the entire game and its complexity makes me vomit when i think about Dragon age inquisition in comparison :P



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Not really. They both suffer from the same issue of resolving the quest by clearing a place of X monsters and finding X object. Also, while Vault 81 had more people around then the Storm Coast none of the people there were really that interesting or memorable beside maybe Curie. 

 

When it comes to dialogue Fallout 4 is a pretty bad copy of Bioware's dialogue wheel. No matter who your talking too all you get is Question/Maybe/Good Guy Yes/Bad Guy No. That's it. It's even more limiting then Inquisition where at the very least you could ask a bunch of questions and sometimes got the Sad/Angry/Confused/Surprised/Agree options. The paraphrasing is also terrible. The sarcasm option is utterly non descriptive and you can't even guess what the hell your character is about say. Will it be offensive, tough in cheek, cynical? Who knows. 

 

And don't even compare the cutscene quality. Inquisition beats Fallout 4 easily in that park. 

 

Honestly, if you still want to rag on Inquisition some more I'd suggest you just go back to that be more like Witcher 3 thread. Fallout 4 isn't the best material to work with. 


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Well, at least he's trying out some new material.
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Just...lmao.

 

And I like both games alot.

 

But no. Just...no.

 

(Silver Shroud quest is funnier than most of Inquisition's side quests though.)


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I think Fallout 4's storytelling invests in "interesting environmental stories". 

 

Whereas I think DA:I often falls into "expository history lesson storytelling". 

 

While I will likely have played DA:I more times through completely than Fallout 4 when all is said and done... I do think I like Fallout 4's ambient storytelling better. 

 

For me - Bioware's strength lies squarely in their NPCs.


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Ah, I knew this is coming. I was just thinking why there isn't any FO4 comparison yet.

 

 

But I do agree with op that on side-quests, fallout 4 has more memorable and well-done content than DAI. The side-quests and the codex we found and finished, are more of a lore exploration, while that in fallout 4, has more story-element. I haven't finish FO4 yet, so my opinion my not be accurate, but that's how I feel currently.



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Not really. They both suffer from the same issue of resolving the quest by clearing a place of X monsters and finding X object. Also, while Vault 81 had more people around then the Storm Coast none of the people there were really that interesting or memorable beside maybe Curie.

When it comes to dialogue Fallout 4 is a pretty bad copy of Bioware's dialogue wheel. No matter who your talking too all you get is Question/Maybe/Good Guy Yes/Bad Guy No. That's it. It's even more limiting then Inquisition where at the very least you could ask a bunch of questions and sometimes got the Sad/Angry/Confused/Surprised/Agree options. The paraphrasing is also terrible. The sarcasm option is utterly non descriptive and you can't even guess what the hell your character is about say. Will it be offensive, tough in cheek, cynical? Who knows.

And don't even compare the cutscene quality. Inquisition beats Fallout 4 easily in that park.

Honestly, if you still want to rag on Inquisition some more I'd suggest you just go back to that be more like Witcher 3 thread. Fallout 4 isn't the best material to work with.


Overseer Gwen was memorable to me, how she strouted around in that tight vault suit. Hmmm.

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Overseer Gwen was memorable to me, how she strouted around in that tight vault suit. Hmmm.

 

Yeah, that pretty much proved my point. 


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I don't know, I was shocked by how crappy the graphics are for Fallout 4. The clothing and skin textures look horrible and at least 5 years out of date. Especially compared to DA:I.  

I have to admit, though, I've always enjoyed the gratuitous violence of the Fallout games over DA.  There is something deeply satisfying about being able to punch a bad guy into pieces and see their body parts go flying around.



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I don't know, I was shocked by how crappy the graphics are for Fallout 4. Especially compared to DA:I.
I have to admit, though, I've always enjoyed the gratuitous violence of the Fallout games over DA, though. There is something deeply satisfying about being able to punch a bad guy into pieces and see their body parts go flying around.


Fallout 4 has better graphics than DAI.

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I don't know, I was shocked by how crappy the graphics are for Fallout 4.  Especially compared to DA:I.  

I have to admit, though, I've always enjoyed the gratuitous violence of the Fallout games over DA, though.  There is something deeply satisfying about being able to punch a bad guy into pieces and see their body parts go flying around.

 

Just wait for mods to fix the graphics. I'm pretty sure that's what Bethesda expected anyway when they decide to make Fallout 4's graphics "good enough". 



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Not really. They both suffer from the same issue of resolving the quest by clearing a place of X monsters and finding X object. Also, while Vault 81 had more people around then the Storm Coast none of the people there were really that interesting or memorable beside maybe Curie.

When it comes to dialogue Fallout 4 is a pretty bad copy of Bioware's dialogue wheel. No matter who your talking too all you get is Question/Maybe/Good Guy Yes/Bad Guy No. That's it. It's even more limiting then Inquisition where at the very least you could ask a bunch of questions and sometimes got the Sad/Angry/Confused/Surprised/Agree options. The paraphrasing is also terrible. The sarcasm option is utterly non descriptive and you can't even guess what the hell your character is about say. Will it be offensive, tough in cheek, cynical? Who knows.

And don't even compare the cutscene quality. Inquisition beats Fallout 4 easily in that park.

Honestly, if you still want to rag on Inquisition some more I'd suggest you just go back to that be more like Witcher 3 thread. Fallout 4 isn't the best material to work with.


DAI had cutscenes?

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Much like the opinions about quests it strikes me as very much YMMV and will vary from person to person.



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Just wait for mods to fix the graphics. I'm pretty sure that's what Bethesda expected anyway when they decide to make Fallout 4's graphics "good enough". 

I have no doubts Mods will eventually greatly enhance the look of the game, but the thing for me with DA:I was that I didn't feel particularly put out because I couldn't mod it-- except for the hair choices, of course.  

I find it very difficult to actually say that Fallout 4 is better or worse than DA:I because they are so different in tone. It's a bit like trying to compare Mad Max to Lord of The Rings.  


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*sees thread title*

 

Oh dear, the comparisons with FO4 have started...

 

*sees author of thread*

 

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@Wren:  I'm totally going to be one of "those snobs" right now... please don't compare DA to LotR. 



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Fallout 4 does do one thing better than BioWare though.

 

I can build a bar :D


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Fallout 4 does do one thing better than BioWare though.

 

I can build a bar :D

You can build a freaking Skyscraper if you want, and then snipe people from it. Thats freedom my friend, the American dream. 


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You can build a freaking Skyscraper if you want. And then snipe people from it. Thats freedom my friend, the American dream!

 

Oh god I have spent so much time building. I had to headcanon my girl wanting to be an architect but she went into law instead.

 

Now she gets to live her dreams ;_;

 

(she also was a spy because I had to justify her being a crack shot with a goddamn minigun instantly somehow).


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Not really. They both suffer from the same issue of resolving the quest by clearing a place of X monsters and finding X object. Also, while Vault 81 had more people around then the Storm Coast none of the people there were really that interesting or memorable beside maybe Curie. 

 

When it comes to dialogue Fallout 4 is a pretty bad copy of Bioware's dialogue wheel. No matter who your talking too all you get is Question/Maybe/Good Guy Yes/Bad Guy No. That's it. It's even more limiting then Inquisition where at the very least you could ask a bunch of questions and sometimes got the Sad/Angry/Confused/Surprised/Agree options. The paraphrasing is also terrible. The sarcasm option is utterly non descriptive and you can't even guess what the hell your character is about say. Will it be offensive, tough in cheek, cynical? Who knows. 

 

And don't even compare the cutscene quality. Inquisition beats Fallout 4 easily in that park. 

 

Honestly, if you still want to rag on Inquisition some more I'd suggest you just go back to that be more like Witcher 3 thread. Fallout 4 isn't the best material to work with. 

I agree be4caquse they both have different types of settings DA is set in a more mdeieval frantasy world where the closes tyou have to a gun is Varric's crossbow Bianca to be fair whereas Fallout 4 is set in a more modern day setting. If you're going to compare DA with anything The witcher series is likely the closest you'll get.



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@Wren:  I'm totally going to be one of "those snobs" right now... please don't compare DA to LotR. 

Sorry, but I'll go ahead and be one of "those writing snobs" and point out that I was making an analogy, not a comparison.  Two different things.


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Well as long as you aren't making allegory because that would bring Tolken's wraith given the hatred of Allegory he had.


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I wish one of the Xbox players would start a thread comparing Rise of the Tomb Raider with DAI. Although its not a RPG. it is a story-driven game with a lot of side content, like most of the Bioware games and unlike Fallout series - which I never play for the main story. Apparently (I'm waiting for the PC release), some of the side content, especially the tombs are the best part of the game. Looking at the reviews, RTR seems the better game. The Metacritic critic rating for RTR is slightly higher, even without accounting for the fact that the Metacritic average for that game incorporates a Guardian (newspaper) review at 60 (3/5) (lowering RTR's average) but not for Fallout 4 even tho Fallout also received a 3/5 from the Guardian.


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Fallout 4 has better graphics than DAI.

 

You must be joking.


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You must be joking.

 

If he had said art direction then one could've justified that with personal preference but yeah.

 

And don't get me started on Bethesda's animations. Dear lord.