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[Cantina]

I cannot comment on Fallout 4 since I've never played any of those games.

 

Every game has side quests, it just depends on how they are execute.

 

Are DAI's side quests a total snooze fest? Absolutely.

 

Are DAI's side quest worse then DAO's? Absolutely.

 

At least in DAO I did not have to drag a Druafflo back or find some b.s Halla to get some Elves favor. Or hell how about giving some herbs to a healer when she could have walked her ass to store and bought them or growing outside say her own damn house.

 

Are DAOs side quests perfect? Of course not.

 

I've played many games over several decades and thus I've come across many side quests that were fun, some boring and others pointless.

 

In DAO at least it felt like you were helping the guilds (kind of the same concept ESO/ESS had but not actually being involved in the guild directly). In DAI its just a bunch of random quests scribbled on a cocktail napkin with the player getting shitty rewards.

 

Yes, by all means find all those shards for...guess what? Shitty loot and a bunch of resistance points.

 

Yes, by all means hunt down mosaics instead of having the dwarf do his actual job, you know repairing, like say the walls in Skyhold. 

 

Hell at least DA2 side quests were fun. I enjoyed framing that Templar - good times.

 

I'm sure a boring quest can slip through - it happens. But to have them piled on top of  a character is kind of like some random stranger asking me to clean their house with no damn reward in return or maybe a gold star on my fridge.

 

Witcher 3, find more Gwent cards was fun and addicting. Finding shards, swearing up and down trying to reach one...not fun and defiantly not addicting.

 

Fable dress up as a hooker, get the boss drunk, sleep with him to find the deeds to the bordello? Hilarious and fun. DAI getting on your new mount to win some horse races while Zelda music plays in your head to win a few coins? Not fun nor hilarious. Try more along the lines of aggravation and wanting someone to give you a smack across the head with a very heavy object instead,

 

My overall point is: By all means have side quests, have collections. But make them fun, hold some semblance of meaning and not some shitty reward I could give two damn bits about.

[pdusen]

Oh, hi Dutch.

[Giantdeathrobot]

If he had said art direction then one could've justified that with personal preference but yeah.

 

And don't get me started on Bethesda's animations. Dear lord.

 

To be absolutely fair, the animations are still less awful than in FO3. At least now we can (gasp) run diagonaly!.... yay?

 

The hair is the only single thing that looks better in Fallout 4. Everything else, from texture quality to facial animations to lighting effects passing by environmental details and particle effects, looks better in Inquisition.

 

Like, I'm not sure how one could possibly say otherwise. Inquisition looks like a nice 2014 game. Fallout 4 looks like a 2012 one at best. Don't get me started on the vast difference in optimization too.

[thats1evildude]

Fallout 4 has better graphics than DAI.

 

 

But it's Fallout, so who cares. Looking like **** is part of the aesthetic.

[Ryzaki]

To be absolutely fair, the animations are still less awful than in FO3. At least now we can (gasp) run diagonaly!.... yay?

 

The hair is the only single thing that looks better in Fallout 4. Everything else, from texture quality to facial animations to lighting effects passing by environmental details and particle effects, looks better in Inquisition.

 

Like, I'm not sure how one could possibly say otherwise. Inquisition looks like a nice 2014 game. Fallout 4 looks like a 2012 one at best. Don't get me started on the vast difference in optimization too.

 

XD But now we can't holster weapons visibly so...win some lose some. (God that's so stupid too. Why even remove that). I'll have to wait for mods to add it back now. Stupid.

 

Oh god. YES. BIOWARE YOUR HAIR IS MORE CRAP THAN BETHESDA'S. FEEL SHAME. FEEEL IT.

 

And when the hair mods come out

 

Yeah I was all enjoying myself in Boston near good neighbor then my framerate plummeted and I'm just "wat even happened." (I did nothing by the way. I wasn't in a fight. This area looked like the other areas I walked through at full 60fps) and then it randomly stops and I'm just "Wow that Bethesda jank never changes."
 

[MyKingdomCold]

I love both games but one thing I hate about Fallout 4 is how useless the local map is. I wish you could tell where people are on it. I can't find some companions even though I dismissed them at the settlement I was at and told them to stay at that settlement. Still can't find them.

Another thing I don't like is how companion affinity works. It's like they're oblivious unless they're with you. Like they live in a bubble away from the other companions.

[o Ventus]

Considering how much the OP hates DAI, one would think he would just leave.

[MyKingdomCold]

Considering how much the OP hates DAI, one would think he would just leave.

Eh, he needs something to do on a Saturday night/Sunday morning.

[Ryzaki]

I love both games but one thing I hate about Fallout 4 is how useless the local map is. I wish you could tell where people are on it. I can't find some companions even though I dismissed them at the settlement I was at and told them to stay at that settlement. Still can't find them.

Another thing I don't like is how companion affinity works. It's like they're oblivious unless they're with you. Like they live in a bubble away from the other companions.

 

Did you send them to Sanctuary? Sometimes they seem to vanish if people send them there. I lost dogmeat that way. I heard it was better to send them to Red Rocket.

 

Yeah

 

This made me laugh so hard though. They don't understand the struggle.

[SomberXIII]

How could you say this? Fallout 4 side quests are universally fetch quests, if not just pick some flowers thingy.

[correctamundo]

 

At least it isn't monday..is it?

[Almostfaceman]

DAI had cutscenes?

 

[Almostfaceman]

I have 40 hours with Fallout 4, just wandered into Vault 81, no spoilers but that one place was vastly superior in content and quality than all of the Stormy Coast, Oasis, and Fallowmire put together. Also there are dialogue cutscenes as well. 

 

What else does Fallout 4 do better? Exploration for one, and the fun of the entire game and its complexity makes me vomit when i think about Dragon age inquisition in comparison

 

Make you vomit? If I make you think about it right now, will you vomit some more? On your keyboard? Please? 

[Orian Tabris]

Well, at least he's trying out some new material.

 

Right. For once he's not bashing The Witcher 3, praising Dragon Age Inquisition with blinding bias, and genuinely wants to contribute to making this forum a fun site to spend time on. He accepts the fact that comparisons come down to personal preference, and that games don't have to be better than each other to be worth playing.

 

OP, I just want you to know, we're truly grateful this isn't some sort of competition to you.

[Serza]

I am not drunk enough for another round of "X does things better than Inquisition!" threads.

 

Though booze is the lesser issue here. The main problem is, I DON'T HAVE POPCORN.

 

Edit: Oh, wait, comparing graphics?

 

I rate this thread 0/10, because it is obvious absolutely no effort was put into this trolling attempt.

[Amplitudelol]

I have 40 hours with Fallout 4, just wandered into Vault 81, no spoilers but that one place was vastly superior in content and quality than all of the Stormy Coast, Oasis, and Fallowmire put together. Also there are dialogue cutscenes as well. 

 

What else does Fallout 4 do better? Exploration for one, and the fun of the entire game and its complexity makes me vomit when i think about Dragon age inquisition in comparison

 

Making better side content than what Dragon Age: The MMO Experience has? I dont think it is a feat. I agree though, it is better.

[Ashagar]

MMO charges always fall flat for me given I've been playing RPGs since the 90s, its a hollow charge I've found given DAI comes across as a rather traditional western RPG format when it comes to its quests, side and fetch quests that is unfortunately coupled with a rather annoying combat system instead of a proper tactical battle system like a story driven RPG should have.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I've never found the Bethesda approach to... well anything really, all that appealing. Their games are ugly to look at, they're buggy as hell, and their storytelling is somewhere below fanfic level. I know everyone seems to think the sun shines out of Todd Howard's butt, but I honestly find their games pretty boring.

I wish we could stop doing this "X did this so much better" stuff. There's enough room for Dragon Age, Witcher, Fallout, and whatever else to all be their own things and not simply plunder each other for ideas until all AAA RPGs are this same-ish amorphous blob with slightly different logos.

[TobiTobsen]

(she also was a spy because I had to justify her being a crack shot with a goddamn minigun instantly somehow).

 

Spies learn to shoot people with a minigun?

 

I need to find the closest spy school...

[Qis]

What makes Fallout 4 fun? You explore the world alone, or with your dog...explore and explore, endless exploration...what is more fun than getting into someone house, building, stores, malls....and loot everything? It is a world without law, everything is yours unless it show red and not green...it is a world everybody dream of...

 

What i mean is, it is a "zombie apocalypse" world, in this kind of world, you're the boss, you can do everything you like and everything is justified by "survival", you can kill anyone without any **** given, you can blow up someone head with bazooka if you want to...you only need to survive and stay alive as long as you can.

 

That's why it is fun!

[sjsharp2011]

I wish one of the Xbox players would start a thread comparing Rise of the Tomb Raider with DAI. Although its not a RPG. it is a story-driven game with a lot of side content, like most of the Bioware games and unlike Fallout series - which I never play for the main story. Apparently (I'm waiting for the PC release), some of the side content, especially the tombs are the best part of the game. Looking at the reviews, RTR seems the better game. The Metacritic critic rating for RTR is slightly higher, even without accounting for the fact that the Metacritic average for that game incorporates a Guardian (newspaper) review at 60 (3/5) (lowering RTR's average) but not for Fallout 4 even tho Fallout also received a 3/5 from the Guardian.

Yeah I'm waiting for the PC version too. I coulde buy it now if I wanted too as I do have an XB1 but I'm holding back as I know I'd find the controls awkward due to my disability. Whereas on PC I can play it exactly how I like. I have to admit though I like what I've seen of Rise of the TR so far.

[Qis]

It is funny how the game set everybody know you are non-hostile...when you reach a town, you hear gun shots, someone is fighting someone, but one side didn't shoot you on sight for some reason, and you just shoot the other party because they are identified as enemies, raiders for example, why the everyone assume you are not an enemy or bad guy in the middle of gun shooting spree? In other way why the enemy you are facing assume you are their enemy and not a friend?

[9TailsFox]

It is funny how the game set everybody know you are non-hostile...when you reach a town, you hear gun shots, someone is fighting someone, but one side didn't shoot you on sight for some reason, and you just shoot the other party because they are identified as enemies, raiders for example, why the everyone assume you are not an enemy or bad guy in the middle of gun shooting spree? In other way why the enemy you are facing assume you are their enemy and not a friend?

Raiders shoot everyone they see. You can walk into gun fight and shoot everyone enemy or not. Just because it's greed doesn't mean you can't shoot it.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Did you send them to Sanctuary? Sometimes they seem to vanish if people send them there. I lost dogmeat that way. I heard it was better to send them to Red Rocket.

 

Yeah

 

This made me laugh so hard though. They don't understand the struggle.

 

Search around Sanctuary for a red doghouse, near the house where there's the workshop and Power Armor rack. Dogmeat is always in there and never wanders around. It confused me too but he doesn't vanish.

[Ryzaki]

Spies learn to shoot people with a minigun?

 

I need to find the closest spy school...

 

In my headcanon yes. She learnt how to use every tool possible as JIC scenario.

 

 

Search around Sanctuary for a red doghouse, near the house where there's the workshop and Power Armor rack. Dogmeat is always in there and never wanders around. It confused me too but he doesn't vanish.

 

Nah I scrapped that one. But I ran into the can't recruit Preston bug anymore on that character too so I was done with that playthrough. I scrapped it. Bethesda bugs screwing up my games since...forever.