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[GreySpectre]

So to sum it up, and assuming mages have the same base health (which is doubtful).

 

2 bars - 80 con

3 bars - 160 con

4 bars - 240 con

5 bars - 320 con

6 bars - 400 con

7 bars - 480 con

8 bars - 560 con

 

All these are at level 1.

[Campout King]

This thread has so much fail in it, don't know where to begin.

Lol

What is your con at?

And have you been tracking the numbers?

Inquiring minds want to know

[Campout King]

So to sum it up, and assuming mages have the same base health (which is doubtful).

2 bars - 80 con
3 bars - 160 con
4 bars - 240 con
5 bars - 320 con
6 bars - 400 con
7 bars - 480 con
8 bars - 560 con

All these are at level 1.

Looks good. Will be seeing if this is correct soon

[LearnedHand]

Okay,

 

2 bars at 80 con makes no sense. you get 2 bars at 0 con.

 

Weeks ago, I mentioned that you get a third bar at around 130 con. I think the exact number was 127 or 128 con when I got my third bar at level 1. Snakebite a couple of weeks ago mentioned he got his fourth bar at around 230 con. Assuming those numbers are correct, (I certainly vouch for roughly 130) you should be able to extrapolate the rest.

 

If each bar is 100 health and a pact belt reduces your hp by 1/5, then every 100 con after getting your first extra bar will give you another bar. 430ish con should give you 6 bars.

[GreySpectre]

Okay,

 

2 bars at 80 con makes no sense. you get 2 bars at 0 con.

 

Weeks ago, I mentioned that you get a third bar at around 130 con. I think the exact number was 127 or 128 con when I got my third bar at level 1. Snakebite a couple of weeks ago mentioned he got his fourth bar at around 230 con. Assuming those numbers are correct, (I certainly vouch for roughly 130) you should be able to extrapolate the rest.

 

This is wrong

 

If each bar is 100 health and a pact belt reduces your hp by 1/5, then every 100 con after getting your first extra bar will give you another bar. 430ish con should give you 6 bars.

 

Also this, belts reduce your hp by 75%

 

 

So yeah, you should be very careful when accusing people of ''failing''

[JohnnyQPublic]

Weeks ago, I mentioned that you get a third bar at around 130 con. I think the exact number was 127 or 128 con when I got my third bar at level 1. 

 

This wasn't my experience.  I only very recently got a third bar, and my con is 162.  I distinctly remember it because I used to only get the 3rd bar after I purchased one of the passives on the AW that gives +3 con (static charge, I believe), and I was in roughly the 150s at the time.

[LearnedHand]

Now you guys have me all confused lol. Regardless, I stick to two claims:

 

I got my third bar at around 130con

 

I have never seen anyone with less than 2 bars

[GreySpectre]

Now you guys have me all confused lol. Regardless, I stick to two claims:

 

I got my third bar at around 130con

 

I have never seen anyone with less than 2 bars

 

The only reason you could have gotten your third bar at level one is if you have modded your staff for constitution.

And you haven't seen anyone with less than 2 bars because if you have less than 200hp your hp is divided into 8 bars.

[LearnedHand]

The only reason you could have gotten your third bar at level one is if you have modded your staff for constitution.

And you haven't seen anyone with less than 2 bars because if you have less than 200hp your hp is divided into 8 bars.

 

That makes sense about people with low promotes having 8 bars given what Cap said. But I know I got 3 bars at 130ish con and I would never put con on a staff. If the threshold was 160 has some people claim, I would have only recently gotten a third bar since my con is currently 175, rather than more than a month ago.

[JohnnyQPublic]

So our recollections are quite different.  It would be helpful if someone with 130 con, 140 con, etc. would chime in.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

The only reason you could have gotten your third bar at level one is if you have modded your staff for constitution.
And you haven't seen anyone with less than 2 bars because if you have less than 200hp your hp is divided into 8 bars.

Wrong. I have 4 bars at lvl 1. I have +Magic and Attack on my staff

[ThatBruhYouDK]

This is wrong


Also this, belts reduce your hp by 75%


So yeah, you should be very careful when accusing people of ''failing''

You say he is wrong but give nothing else to elaborate. Be clear if you are going to point out flaws

[JohnnyQPublic]

Wrong. I have 4 bars at lvl 1. I have +Magic and Attack on my staff

 

You're misunderstanding him.  He was referring specifically to LearnedHand with his 130 con having 3 bars at level 1.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

You're misunderstanding him. He was referring specifically to LearnedHand with his 130 con having 3 bars at level 1.

His wording did not indicate that

[JohnnyQPublic]

His wording did not indicate that

 

I think it is pretty obvious, given the comment to which he was replying, and his comment at the top of this page explicitly stating how many bars you can have, all "at level 1."

[GreySpectre]

Wrong. I have 4 bars at lvl 1. I have +Magic and Attack on my staff

 

I frankly have no polite response to that.

 

So our recollections are quite different.  It would be helpful if someone with 130 con, 140 con, etc. would chime in.

 

I have 120 con. I stay at 2 bars with a level 19 AW and whatever constitution passives I have picked up(15-18 con).

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I think it is pretty obvious, given the comment to which he was replying, and his comment at the top of this page explicitly stating how many bars you can have, all "at level 1."

Exactly. He only said he was wrong. If you point out someone is wrong, give something else with it. Just saying you are wrong helps nothing.
I took it as him saying it is impossible to have 3 bars as a lvl 1. I took that and said he was wrong then stated I have 4 at lvl 1. Proof supporting my accusation.
May have been a miscommunication on my part but he should still give supporting evidence as to why LearnedHand was wrong

[LearnedHand]

Where is Kmeeg when you need him? We need his trademarked graphs.

 

Seriously, to settle this we need two players go in the fade and record their hp and con using the pact belts at level one on the same class.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

I frankly have no polite response to that.


I have 120 con. I stay at 2 bars with a level 19 AW and whatever constitution passives I have picked up.

I have 269 Constitution. I start at lvl 1 with 4 bars and go up to 5 with no problem by lvl 15 on most characters

[ThatBruhYouDK]

Where is Kmeeg when you need him? We need his trademarked graphs.

Seriously, to settle this we need two players go in the fade and record their hp and con using the pact belts at level one on the same class.

He is probably making his wife upset by binge playing Battlefront

[ThatBruhYouDK]

So to sum it up, and assuming mages have the same base health (which is doubtful).

2 bars - 80 con
3 bars - 160 con
4 bars - 240 con
5 bars - 320 con
6 bars - 400 con
7 bars - 480 con
8 bars - 560 con

All these are at level 1.

Well this I did not see. Impressive find if it is true.
I will believe when proof is given. Until then I will remain skeptical. I trust nothing until proof is shown. I'm sure there are others out there.

[GreySpectre]

Well this I did not see. Impressive find if it is true.
I will believe when proof is given. Until then I will remain skeptical. I trust nothing until proof is shown. I'm sure there are others out there.

 

It is not impressive it is basic math.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

It is not impressive it is basic math.

Then show the proof. You are putting out a claim without any supporting evidence.
Like LearnedHand said. Video with HP numbers would work. Anything really.

[GreySpectre]

Then show the proof. You are putting out a claim without any supporting evidence.
Like LearnedHand said. Video with HP numbers would work. Anything really.

 

If you read through the thread you would see that the starting health for Keeper at zero promotions is 450 (according to a thread by Kmeeg).

Belts reduce your health by 75% so to have 2 bars (200 health with pact belt) you need 800 health without. That means 350 health by promotions, which is 70 promotions at 5hp each.

80 promotions give you 400hp, so 100 with pact belt.

So 80 con stat for 2 bars plus 1 bar for every 80 con after that.

 

Basic math, see? No need for video or whatever.

[ThatBruhYouDK]

If you read through the thread you would see that the starting health for Keeper at zero promotions is 450 (according to a thread by Kmeeg).
Belts reduce your health by 75% so to have 2 bars (200 health with pact belt) you need 800 health without. That means 350 health by promotions, which is 70 promotions at 5hp each.
80 promotions give you 400hp, so 100 with pact belt.
So 80 con stat for 2 bars plus 1 bar for every 80 con after that.

Basic math, see? No need for video or whatever.

Initial math was off. 75% of 450 is 337.5, not 200. Might want to redo the math now bud