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Zekka

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Is there a chance that Andromeda could be a galaxy that is not as advanced as the milky way?

I mean, it is unlikely because this is Mass Effect after all but maybe there is only one space fairing race in Andromeda and the rest have yet to catch up.

 

It would be quite interesting.



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I would hope that when BioWare spoke of Mass Effect Andromeda "moving forward" they meant forward in everything, including advances in technology.



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Hanako Ikezawa

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There is certainly a possibility we will run into a race that isn't as advanced as we are. The main Andromeda races will probably be on par with us, but there could be others that aren't. 



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I thought the leak about Remnants or whatever pointed to a sort of technological dark age.
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I thought the leak about Remnants or whatever pointed to a sort of technological dark age.

hmm I don't remember reading that.



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Is there a chance that Andromeda could be a galaxy that is not as advanced as the milky way?
I mean, it is unlikely because this is Mass Effect after all but maybe there is only one space fairing race in Andromeda and the rest have yet to catch up.
 
It would be quite interesting.

On the contrary, they should be about a billion years more advanced considering they haven't had a bunch of flying space dicks reset galactic civilization every 50,000 years.
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On the contrary, they should be about a billion years more advanced considering they haven't had a bunch of flying space dicks reset galactic civilization every 50,000 years.

That is a good point, however the MW had the relay system to accelerate development.  I've always kind of presumed that Andromeda would lack such.



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The Milky Way was crawling with intelligent lifeforms. This is a good indicator that intelligent life is prevalent in the Andromeda Galaxy. I don't know if they're more advanced, since we now have technology that facilitates intergalactic travel. This is hard to beat; but if there are highly advanced (greater than us) lifeforms in the Andromeda Galaxy, they'll likely be synthetic.



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Technology isn't a strict linear path - just because there hasn't been the cyclical Reaper invasion in Andromeda doesn't mean that other events haven't occurred to various species. Star Trek has dozens of ancient civilizations who rose to great prominence and then died off - the Preservers, the Tkon, the D'Arsay, the Iconians, the Kurlan... Hell, in Star Trek, 'ascending to a higher plane of existence' is said to be a common evolutionary path, with an implication that one day even humanity would reach a point where they'd effectively tell the Q Continuum that they need to spruce the place up, they're about to have company, which would mean that, a few thousand years down the line, new aliens would wander through the ruins of Federation society and wonder what happened to them. Or, in a page out of BioWare's own playbook, the Rakata in KOTOR ruled the known galaxy, and a plague sent them scurrying back to their homeworld, where they eventually died off.

 

Even in our own history, we see civilizations rise and fall over time, being overwhelmed and replaced and forgotten. It's entirely possible for the dominant species of Andromeda to be roughly on par with the Citadel races.



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That is a good point, however the MW had the relay system to accelerate development. I've always kind of presumed that Andromeda would lack such.

Going off Mass Effect lore, I agree with Arcian. We know that intelligent, spacefaring civilizations develop by the handful every 50,000 years or so in the MW, and Andromeda should be the same (there is no logical reason why it would be different, as it is a similarly ancient spiral galaxy - indeed, with twice the stars as the MW). And you can actually calculate with some pretty simple mathematics that a spacefaring civilization could colonize an entire galaxy, travelling at sublight speeds, in several million years. And we also know from Mass Effect lore that the first civilization to reach a hyperadvanced state - that of the Leviathans - was two billion years prior.

So yes, based on Mass Effect's own lore on the statistical probability of spacefaring civilizations, Andromeda SHOULD have had at least one hyperadvanced civilization that has colonized the entire galaxy by now - completely regardless as to whether or not relays or relay equivalent tech exists there.

And I think Bioware realizes that their own lore predicts this - hence, the "Remnant". It wouldn't make sense if such a species didnt exist at some point in time.

What will be interesting to me is seeing where they take that. Surely they wont recycle the Reaper trope in that this species eradicates all advanced life... My guess is, that the advancement level of species in Andromeda will similarly be capped, but for a completely different reason.

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What will be interesting to me is seeing where they take that. Surely they wont recycle the Reaper trope in that this species eradicates all advanced life... My guess is, that the advancement level of species in Andromeda will similarly be capped, but for a completely different reason.

 

Maybe the Khet are like the oravores, and there was nothing to stop them from wiping out the remnants like the protheans did for the asari. 



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Maybe the Khet are like the oravores, and there was nothing to stop them from wiping out the remnants like the protheans did for the asari.

Maybe, I'm personally hoping they dont go the "x species wiped y species out" route or even the "hyper advanced civilization ascended to another plane of existence and helps similarly advanced species do the same route" (which is a similarly predictable sci-fi trope), but something more unique.

That's probably a pipe-dream though, because Bioware likes tried and true storylines.

I really wish they would go this route (even though it is a lesser used Sci Fi trope): Explorers encounter alien species that is alien beyond all recognition - they have alien motives, alien actions, alien logic. Communication is impossible. Conflict arises due to inherent species differences. There is no "right side" or "wrong side", just an evolutionary fight for survival.

That would be scary, could be Lovecraftian, would fit with a theme of exploration and conflict in a new region of space, and would fit well with Mass Effects original themes.
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And yes, I realize that would be essentially Rachni War #2 (which itself was a ripoff of Ender's game, which borrowed from countless other Sci Fi stories) - but it would still make a good story.
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Some Andromeda races should have liquid armor and nuclear walking mechs while some others have spears and boiling oil.

 

Could make for interesting faction battles. 


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On the contrary, they should be about a billion years more advanced considering they haven't had a bunch of flying space dicks reset galactic civilization every 50,000 years.

Or the place is overrun by AI techno gods.

 

But that would require the Catalyst to be right  :whistle:

 

But yes, the stunting of the Milky Way's development by the Reapers will likely not be addressed at all.



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Some Andromeda races should have liquid armor and nuclear walking mechs while some others have spears and boiling oil.

 

Could make for interesting faction battles. 

 

I think it'd be neat if we had a more techno-organic look to an antagonist in (if not Andromeda then) a future game. Sorta like the Yuuzhan Vong in the Star Wars novels, where all their technology was semi-sentient and grown instead of built, though maybe without the pain-worship and such. Take the technological path in a completely different direction than the way that it developed in the Milky Way.



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Some Andromeda races should have liquid armor and nuclear walking mechs while some others have spears and boiling oil.

 

Could make for interesting faction battles. 

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Evolutionary advancement doesn't occur in identical speeds, when any alien life even started in that Galaxy can be more recent, they could have been wiped out a couple times before,(not even reapers just old fashioned war)we got jump started with old tech, we have some reaper tech and they've been around billions of years, and let's face it we could kill them so they weren't they advanced, humans were kicking serious turian butt even with worse tech.

They have plenty of outs to make the civilizations there any tech level they want.

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Assuming that Andromeda doesn't have a relay system or a similar galactic rapid transit system then it could be mix of less advanced races and more advanced races.  I can see it being like Star Trek Voyager in which there were races encountered by voyager that were not as technologically advanced, as well as races that were significantly more advanced than federation technology.  In the Mass Effect version of the Milky Way all of the spacefaring civilizations were more or less on par when it came to tech and that is due to the reapers influencing the development of spacefaring species in the direction they wanted combined with their periodic harvesting of the galaxy.   Assuming Andromeda hasn't been kept in the check the way the Milky Way was it leaves the possibility of more races developing in more unique ways, not to mention that is compounded by the fact that Andromeda is also a larger galaxy than the Milky Way.



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Maybe, I'm personally hoping they dont go the "x species wiped y species out" route or even the "hyper advanced civilization ascended to another plane of existence and helps similarly advanced species do the same route" (which is a similarly predictable sci-fi trope), but something more unique.

That's probably a pipe-dream though, because Bioware likes tried and true storylines.

I really wish they would go this route (even though it is a lesser used Sci Fi trope): Explorers encounter alien species that is alien beyond all recognition - they have alien motives, alien actions, alien logic. Communication is impossible. Conflict arises due to inherent species differences. There is no "right side" or "wrong side", just an evolutionary fight for survival.

That would be scary, could be Lovecraftian, would fit with a theme of exploration and conflict in a new region of space, and would fit well with Mass Effects original themes.

 

 

I would love to see that. 

 

Something like the Scramblers from Peter Watts' novel Blindsight:

 

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