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[Seishoujyo]

I completely agree, only that the childish camera angles didn't do her any favors, nor did the impractical skintight catsuit.

 

I'm sorry, it's just difficult to take her seriously when she walks into combat in heels (?) and a thin catsuit. (her alternate outfit - the armor, was much more sensible)

 

More like you re clueless (and people who think like you too), her suit is fine.

 

You know I m a fencer, and for fencing we are using some very rare, thin and light fabric to protect our body like the "Dyneema" or "Spectra", it's very thin but it's like bulletproof. Why in Mass Effect can't we have something even better, protective and still thin ? What do you have to think that you need a big armor to protect yourself, that's stupid man and it's Sci Fi don't forget it.

[Excella Gionne]

"A krogan mentioned"? Kromance confirmed. 10/10 would buy and romance again. GOTY! 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

More like you re clueless (and people who think like you too), her suit is fine.

 

You know I m a fencer, and for fencing we are using some very rare, thin and light fabric to protect our body like the "Dyneema" or "Spectra", it's very thin but it's like bulletproof. Why in Mass Effect can't we have something even better, protective and still thin ? What do you have to think that you need a big armor to protect yourself, that's stupid man and it's Sci Fi don't forget it.

The problem I have with the outfit and others like it is how it offers no protection to enviornmental factors and yet it is treated as if nothing would happen. For example she should be unconscious within seconds and die within minutes of being on the Collector Ship that is exposed to the vacuum of space.

[Quarian Master Race]

"A krogan mentioned"? Kromance confirmed. 10/10 would buy and romance again. GOTY! 

must be reposted everytime
 

[KaiserShep]

More like you re clueless (and people who think like you too), her suit is fine.

 

You know I m a fencer, and for fencing we are using some very rare, thin and light fabric to protect our body like the "Dyneema" or "Spectra", it's very thin but it's like bulletproof. Why in Mass Effect can't we have something even better, protective and still thin ? What do you have to think that you need a big armor to protect yourself, that's stupid man and it's Sci Fi don't forget it.

 

The low cut area around the neck and zero helmet would probably put a damper on things, though. 

[Ahglock]

More like you re clueless (and people who think like you too), her suit is fine.

You know I m a fencer, and for fencing we are using some very rare, thin and light fabric to protect our body like the "Dyneema" or "Spectra", it's very thin but it's like bulletproof. Why in Mass Effect can't we have something even better, protective and still thin ? What do you have to think that you need a big armor to protect yourself, that's stupid man and it's Sci Fi don't forget it.

Nope. The setting set up that armor helps you survive gun fights. She isn't getting into rapier duels, people are firing fully automatic rail guns at her. If the setting had set up their universe that people didn't wear armor for protection but just for style then fine wear whatever you want. But they didn't. What a rapier does vs some cloth you wear today is totally irrelevant to what super sci fi cloth does vs rail guns in a fictional setting. They set the rules and her outfits do nothing for her in a fight, in toxic or no atmosphere environments. But armor helps you survive all of those in this setting. It is light, doesn't restrict movement and can stop a few shots from a rail gun while protecting you from a vacuum not extreme environment.

[Kabooooom]

Nope. The setting set up that armor helps you survive gun fights. She isn't getting into rapier duels, people are firing fully automatic rail guns at her. If the setting had set up their universe that people didn't wear armor for protection but just for style then fine wear whatever you want. But they didn't. What a rapier does vs some cloth you wear today is totally irrelevant to what super sci fi cloth does vs rail guns in a fictional setting. They set the rules and her outfits do nothing for her in a fight, in toxic or no atmosphere environments. But armor helps you survive all of those in this setting. It is light, doesn't restrict movement and can stop a few shots from a rail gun while protecting you from a vacuum not extreme environment.

Ah yes, but consider this - Miranda's enemies' reaction time is temporarily slowed, due to them admiring her boobs, ass, and ****** (and also simultaneously because they are shocked that someone would venture into a gunbattle without wearing appropriate protection) - resulting in Miranda head shotting them all.

Eh? Eh?

Spoiler alert:



Obviously this was all in jest. But you pretty much have to specify that on the BSN...

EDIT: Seriously, Biower? You censor "camel-toe"???? Come on.

[Ahglock]

Ah yes, but consider this - Miranda's enemies' reaction time is temporarily slowed, due to them admiring her boobs, ass, and ****** (and also simultaneously because they are shocked that someone would venture into a gunbattle without wearing appropriate protection) - resulting in Miranda head shotting them all.

Eh? Eh?

Spoiler alert:



Obviously this was all in jest. But you pretty much have to specify that on the BSN...

EDIT: Seriously, Biower? You censor "camel-toe"???? Come on.

Lol. There actually was a game that used that excuse. Main character ran around naked and male enemies were stunned for like 2 seconds when seeing her.

But yes you have to drop sarcasm or joke tags here like nobodies business.

[Kabooooom]

Lol. There actually was a game that used that excuse. Main character ran around naked and male enemies were stunned for like 2 seconds when seeing her.

But yes you have to drop sarcasm or joke tags here like nobodies business.

If I was a hot woman I would totally use that **** to every and all advantage I could over men. We are stupid and easily entranced/tricked. They should just make a Mass Effect spin-off game involving Miranda or Asari being semi-clad and whooping ass.

It could be called...

Stripper Effect.

10/10 would buy.

[Remix-General Aetius]

haha the uploader has hidden the vid's rating.......what a shocker.

[Remix-General Aetius]

haha the uploader has hidden the vid's rating.......what a shocker.

[laudable11]

The explicit sexuality thing is fine to me in small amounts here and there when appropriate. I do NOT want my main female characters to be big boobed, swaying hips chicks. I want them athletic and trim. Functionally feminine, not pin-up non-functional. You will never see a worthy gymnast fem with big boobs or major hour-glass shape, big ass. You wont see a sprinter or long-distance runner like that either. Nor a uber-fit military girl. That stuff is contrary to high-function on a physical level.

Plus, I'm not a hormone-addled teenager anymore.

I know a lot of big boobed women with swaying hips who dress in tight fitting clothing who look like pin-up models. And they are noble, trust worthy, brave and "functionality feminine".

[Getorex]

I know a lot of big boobed women with swaying hips who dress in tight fitting clothing who look like pin-up models. And they are noble, trust worthy, brave and "functionality feminine".

 

None of them are rock climbers, sprinters, distance runners, martial artists, gymnasts, acrobats, etc.  Those "accoutrements" literally impinge/hinder athletic physical function, just like a beer gut on a guy wrecks their athletic abilities. 

 

High athleticism is contrary to body fat. Boobs are fat, the higher your athleticism/conditioning level, the smaller your breasts must get (same with fat butt).  It's ONE of the benefits of exercize and one of its intended outcomes.

 

What you will never see: big boobed, big butt women passing Ranger school.  http://www.military....er-school.html Not a single one of them big boobed, big butted.  The only two that made it through are also not built such because they'd never have made it through even the first phase.  The women that even TRIED to get in were in the top shape of their lives, not curvy pin-up girls.  Athletic and very lean. Here's another example of what females can even handle the entrance requirements: http://www.military....r-school.html  Note to the unknowing: MOST special forces guys are not big Vega-style muscle men.  Even THAT tends to be more hindrance to the physical requirements of Special Forces.  The guys tend towards lean wiry functional muscle because the activities favor that sort of strength rather than raw strength. Being able to bench 300-400 lbs isn't something that gives a guy any advantage at all in Special Forces training.  The opposite, in fact. 

 

I've spent more years in the gym than most of ya'll have been alive and I never ever have seen the curvy pin-up excelling in: yoga, pilates, weight lifting, wall climbing, functional gym activities, running, aerobics, etc.  The largest of them are bigger than average for women in muscle, not fat, not boob, not butt. 

[N7Swag91]

How about all female human characters in ME:A look like Quiet from MGSV?

[FKA_Servo]

How about all female human characters in ME:A look like Quiet from MGSV?

 

As long as they're all plant people who only speak Navajo or esperanto or whatever, sure.

 

Bottom line, I want it to make sense.

[SnakeCode]

None of them are rock climbers, sprinters, distance runners, martial artists, gymnasts, acrobats, etc.  Those "accoutrements" literally impinge/hinder athletic physical function, just like a beer gut on a guy wrecks their athletic abilities. 

 

High athleticism is contrary to body fat. Boobs are fat, the higher your athleticism/conditioning level, the smaller your breasts must get (same with fat butt).  It's ONE of the benefits of exercize and one of its intended outcomes.

 

What you will never see: big boobed, big butt women passing Ranger school.  http://www.military....er-school.html Not a single one of them big boobed, big butted.  The only two that made it through are also not built such because they'd never have made it through even the first phase.  The women that even TRIED to get in were in the top shape of their lives, not curvy pin-up girls.  Athletic and very lean. Here's another example of what females can even handle the entrance requirements: http://www.military....r-school.html  Note to the unknowing: MOST special forces guys are not big Vega-style muscle men.  Even THAT tends to be more hindrance to the physical requirements of Special Forces.  The guys tend towards lean wiry functional muscle because the activities favor that sort of strength rather than raw strength. Being able to bench 300-400 lbs isn't something that gives a guy any advantage at all in Special Forces training.  The opposite, in fact. 

 

I've spent more years in the gym than most of ya'll have been alive and I never ever have seen the curvy pin-up excelling in: yoga, pilates, weight lifting, wall climbing, functional gym activities, running, aerobics, etc.  The largest of them are bigger than average for women in muscle, not fat, not boob, not butt. 

 

All true, however, it's a videogame. If you aren't complaining about small women beating up large men with their bare hands or aliens or FTL travel then it seems a little odd that women having breasts is too much to suspend your belief for. 

[Sartoz]

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 ...I was more annoyed by Shepard wearing full armor everywhere, in a game where most of the action took place in urban hubs.

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Here, I agree with you.

This is where the Creative Director is "lazy" or a "penny pincher" for refusal to create a suitable uniform to wear in civilian areas while on shore leave.

 

[Quarian Master Race]

None of them are rock climbers, sprinters, distance runners, martial artists, gymnasts, acrobats, etc.  Those "accoutrements" literally impinge/hinder athletic physical function, just like a beer gut on a guy wrecks their athletic abilities. 

 

High athleticism is contrary to body fat. Boobs are fat, the higher your athleticism/conditioning level, the smaller your breasts must get (same with fat butt).  It's ONE of the benefits of exercize and one of its intended outcomes.

 

What you will never see: big boobed, big butt women passing Ranger school.  http://www.military....er-school.html Not a single one of them big boobed, big butted.  The only two that made it through are also not built such because they'd never have made it through even the first phase.  The women that even TRIED to get in were in the top shape of their lives, not curvy pin-up girls.  Athletic and very lean. Here's another example of what females can even handle the entrance requirements: http://www.military....r-school.html  Note to the unknowing: MOST special forces guys are not big Vega-style muscle men.  Even THAT tends to be more hindrance to the physical requirements of Special Forces.  The guys tend towards lean wiry functional muscle because the activities favor that sort of strength rather than raw strength. Being able to bench 300-400 lbs isn't something that gives a guy any advantage at all in Special Forces training.  The opposite, in fact. 

 

I've spent more years in the gym than most of ya'll have been alive and I never ever have seen the curvy pin-up excelling in: yoga, pilates, weight lifting, wall climbing, functional gym activities, running, aerobics, etc.  The largest of them are bigger than average for women in muscle, not fat, not boob, not butt. 

All very well said. 

I guess it is only fair to note that this trend only really started with ME2. In ME1 all of the females were at least trim (likely from all but Tali using the same body model), so it wasn't so hard to believe that they were at least capable combatants given other advances like cybernetics.

ME2 was retarded though. Miranda talks about being an example of human physical perfection in terms of capabilities (not beauty aesthetics), but I doubt she could score above a 150 on a PT test with lugging all that fat around on her arse and chest. Sure it makes her attractive to males, but physically that is about as useful in combat as a guy with a beer gut and moobs, and somehow I don't think that a male character who looked like Jonah Hill yet was portrayed as some high speed SF soldier would be taken seriously outside of for pure comedy reasons.

By ME3 even our supposedly career Marine oorah grunt Ashley decided to get a boob job (because lugging around bouncy Double D's obviously makes one a more effective killer on the battlefield). The only female in the squad who even looked physically capable of running a sub 18 minute 2 mile was Tali, mostly by default given her being the only female in the universe who didn't prepare for the Reaper War by getting breast implants (and assuming the fanservicey tree trunk esque legs/thighs are actually muscle), and she still had the twig arms and shoulders that cybernetic enhancements aside would probably not even be good for a single goddamn pull-up, let alone lugging around firing a krogan shotgun.

 

All true, however, it's a videogame. If you aren't complaining about small women beating up large men with their bare hands or aliens or FTL travel then it seems a little odd that women having breasts is too much to suspend your belief for. 

Aliens and FTL are arguably necessary contrivances. Porn star bodies are really not, though you are right about the instances of 145lb females arm wrestling a half tonne Yahg to the ground being no less absurd (though it shouldn't be any more possible for a 200lb human male either).

Ultimately for me it isn't huge issue. It is at the end of the day fiction. I'm not some SJW railing against percieved sexism in fiction, and I don't mind if there are Miranda and ME3 Liara type buxom babes for the primarily male fanbase to oogle over(hey, it brings in sales, though the arsecam is horrendously tacky and needs to go), as long as at least a few women who are supposed to be portrayed with a job requiring a reasonable degree of athleticism and capability over looks (such as Ashley) don't get "fixed" to be the same way. I'm not asking for bodybuilders, just give some of them relatively athletic, functional builds instead of universally having the Pamela Anderson treatment. Something like ME1 would be great, which notably still tended more towards "sci-fi sexy" than functional given the form fitting, shapely armours.
 

[Pasquale1234]

By ME3 even our supposedly career Marine oorah grunt Ashley decided to get a boob job (because lugging around bouncy Double D's obviously makes one a more effective killer on the battlefield).

I think I just figured out why Ashley's Marksman ability doesn't work. It's impossible to aim a rifle effectively with a pair of coffee cans glued to your chest.

Well-played, Bioware.

[AzWarp]

A mesh is a mesh and was created in some third-party 3D modelling software such as Maya or ZBrush and converted to the Unreal Engine format. Assuming they have the original assets, which they do unless there has been some catastrophic hardware failure, they would just do the same thing for FB3. So yes, it's entirely possible that the Cerberus shuttle is a place-holder.

 

The same goes for textures. Not everything we see in MEA will be 100% new although most things probably will be. There's no point in a 3D artist spending a day crafting a potted plant or a chair when they have all these ME-themed assets ready-to-go. A sensible amount of recycling is good for the game as it frees up time for artists to craft new stuff that players actually care about and we won't have to wait 6 years for the game to be made.

 

All that being said, I'm not clinging to the idea that it is a place-holder. If Cerberus show up in MEA, so be it.

 

 

Absolutely true.  A mesh is a mesh.  I can take a mesh from a totally different game (DEHR) and put it in ME which uses a totally different engine (I am putting Natanya Keitner as a replacement for Allers and may make Jensen's head the default for Shepard).  It is almost nothing to take one mesh and paste it into any other game.  They could just as well have used meshes from Doom. 

 

Alright... I stand corrected folks... but I really wish I would have been right... so I could sleep better knowing...that Cerberus placeholders are... (impossible/possible...)... arrgh!

 

My head hurts

[AzWarp]

I hope so, but the thing is - after ME3 and the comics...I totally wouldn't be surprised if Cerberus was in the game in some stupid way.

And I know I'm not the only one who wouldn't be surprised.

 

It wouldn't surprise me either and to be honest (for me) it really isn't so much about Cerberus being there or not as much as it is about it being done right if they are. I can get on board with pretty much anything as long as I don't feel like it's completely unbelievable. But that "alleged leak" smells of fake IMO because there isn't anything new in it.... more like re-heated leftovers.

[AzWarp]

I'm really not liking the sound of having to manually control the ship to navigate the gaalxy/cluster.

 

Assuming for a second that this is true, does anyone remember the 2013 leak? (http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=721736)

In the text of that post one can read:

 

They also showed us a slew of land vehicles that would serve for different environments. And the most interesting vehicle was a personal sized Normandy-esque ship that could "fit a Mako-like vehicle in it".

 

So a small ship (personal-sized) that can carry a mako (and presumably your two selected squadmates). That could be the ship we are piloting. Wouldn't much bigger than a shuttle (maybe 2 to 3 times the size so it can fit the mako) and there wouldnt be a need for a full crew. That's really the only way to explain why we actually fly the ship as opposed to a Joker guy.

 

Just grasping at straws here...

[Mdizzletr0n]

None of them are rock climbers, sprinters, distance runners, martial artists, gymnasts, acrobats, etc. Those "accoutrements" literally impinge/hinder athletic physical function, just like a beer gut on a guy wrecks their athletic abilities.

High athleticism is contrary to body fat. Boobs are fat, the higher your athleticism/conditioning level, the smaller your breasts must get (same with fat butt). It's ONE of the benefits of exercize and one of its intended outcomes.

What you will never see: big boobed, big butt women passing Ranger school. http://www.military....er-school.html Not a single one of them big boobed, big butted. The only two that made it through are also not built such because they'd never have made it through even the first phase. The women that even TRIED to get in were in the top shape of their lives, not curvy pin-up girls. Athletic and very lean. Here's another example of what females can even handle the entrance requirements: http://www.military....r-school.html Note to the unknowing: MOST special forces guys are not big Vega-style muscle men. Even THAT tends to be more hindrance to the physical requirements of Special Forces. The guys tend towards lean wiry functional muscle because the activities favor that sort of strength rather than raw strength. Being able to bench 300-400 lbs isn't something that gives a guy any advantage at all in Special Forces training. The opposite, in fact.

I've spent more years in the gym than most of ya'll have been alive and I never ever have seen the curvy pin-up excelling in: yoga, pilates, weight lifting, wall climbing, functional gym activities, running, aerobics, etc. The largest of them are bigger than average for women in muscle, not fat, not boob, not butt.

Yea but(t)...













Sure its not every athletic woman but(t) it's not COMPLETELY ridiculous. Lol.

[AlanC9]

All very well said. 
I guess it is only fair to note that this trend only really started with ME2. In ME1 all of the females were at least trim (likely from all but Tali using the same body model), so it wasn't so hard to believe that they were at least capable combatants given other advances like cybernetics.

Right. In ME they could only have one body model given the armor system. Well, unless they wanted the body to change with the gear. See, for instance, DA:O's Tevinter Robes of Breast Enlargement;.

[Laughing_Man]

More like you re clueless (and people who think like you too), her suit is fine.

 

You know I m a fencer, and for fencing we are using some very rare, thin and light fabric to protect our body like the "Dyneema" or "Spectra", it's very thin but it's like bulletproof. Why in Mass Effect can't we have something even better, protective and still thin ? What do you have to think that you need a big armor to protect yourself, that's stupid man and it's Sci Fi don't forget it.

 

If a thin body suit was an effective defense against a shotgun blast in close range, why would everyone invest so much in heavy body armor?

 

Why would Spectres (all of them that we saw) choose to wear advanced combat armor instead of your magic fencing suit?