Cerberus had as much power as the writers allowed them.
Because it seems to be a necessity in Bioware games for the player to feel powerfull by proxy, Shepard usually whipped the floor with Cerberus. Something that would have been laughable in real life.
Precisely. I would think no one would expect the game to be too realistic and Cerberus so powerful that the game becomes unplayably difficult.
A direct missile blast from a Cerberus Atlas, only removes your shields?
Inaccurate depiction.
They knew from the beginning it would be a trilogy. They just didn't have the details planned.
The game they didn't know would get sequels was Dragon Age: Origins.
Yes, I know. But they didn´t plan a lot of big details.
Yes, I know. But they didn´t plan a lot of big details.
That was definitely clear from ME2 (despite being my favorite). Hell, we saw it in other ways too: ME1 supposedly getting bridging dlc, which never actually materialized.
Some writers can "make it up as they go" and still do a great job. But when you're trying to import something as complicated as an import mechanic between games, and you have a rep for reactivity/decisions with consequences, improvisation probably isn't the best approach.
They did a fairly good job with it until Drew left and Dynamic Duo Casey+Mac went completely off the rails. Not saying Drew staying would have made the ending amazing, but I strongly doubt it would have been the trainwreck Casey and Mac sold us.
I read Drew´s books and it makes me wonder how he managed to make such great games and be a mediocre writer at the same time.
But I have to admit, he has an eye for the big things but not for the details.
Didn't he also write that Revan novel, which turned out to be horrible?
Didn't he also write that Revan novel, which turned out to be horrible?
It´s not his worst work.
Edit: It´s always difficult to write about someone who is different for every player. Kind of a sacrilege to mess with people´s Headcanon.
I was lucky. The Revan he described in his book and the Revan that I was to forced tho kill with my Sith Inquisitor happened to be the one I roleplayed in Kotor.
Shepard has lots of assistance from others and various resources given to him to be as formidable as he is.
Except even by himself Shepard is more than a match for anyone or anything Cerberus threw at him. Cerberus was nothing but a bunch of bumbling idiots that was only effective when it had plot armor equipped. The only reason Cerberus scores any victories against Shepard is because those victories are preordained. Kai Leng, for example, is a straight up joke that is only effective because of literal invincibility. He's Cerberus' best man but he gets served by a sickly, dying Drell that doesn't even have enough sense not to run at someone with a pistol.
Cerberus was poorly written and stands out as absurdly stupid in a series that became a joke because of absurd stupidity.
Except even by himself Shepard is more than a match for anyone or anything Cerberus threw at him. Cerberus was nothing but a bunch of bumbling idiots that was only effective when it had plot armor equipped. The only reason Cerberus scores any victories against Shepard is because those victories are preordained. Kai Leng, for example, is a straight up joke that is only effective because of literal invincibility. He's Cerberus' best man but he gets served by a sickly, dying Drell that doesn't even have enough sense not to run at someone with a pistol.
I feel bad for Troy Baker for voicing him. Especially after hearing him as Rhys from Tales from the Borderlands, who, despite also being a cyborg stooge being told what to do by an evil hologram, is practically the anti-Leng. And it was a far better role.
I'm guessing peer-review and good leadership skills.I read Drew´s books and it makes me wonder how he managed to make such great games and be a mediocre writer at the same time.
But I have to admit, he has an eye for the big things but not for the details.
Troy Baker is a f***ing phenomenal voice actor and was criminally misused in Mass Effect 3.I feel bad for Troy Baker for voicing him. Especially after hearing him as Rhys from Tales from the Borderlands, who, despite also being a cyborg stooge being told what to do by an evil hologram, is practically the anti-Leng. And it was a far better role.
Except even by himself Shepard is more than a match for anyone or anything Cerberus threw at him. Cerberus was nothing but a bunch of bumbling idiots that was only effective when it had plot armor equipped. The only reason Cerberus scores any victories against Shepard is because those victories are preordained. Kai Leng, for example, is a straight up joke that is only effective because of literal invincibility. He's Cerberus' best man but he gets served by a sickly, dying Drell that doesn't even have enough sense not to run at someone with a pistol.
Cerberus was poorly written and stands out as absurdly stupid in a series that became a joke because of absurd stupidity.
Shepard is living, breathing plot armor.
Because, seriosly, statistics is not mercifull. Shepard should be dead many times and the only reason she isn´t is because of plot armor.
Edit: But hell, Kai Leng does suck. One of the worst villians I ever encountered in video games.
Indeed in ME1 they were only a small rogue faction of the alliance, in ME2/3 they were a military power that rivaled them.
... or they come with us and somehow quickly establish their own army 
I think ditching MW is the worst idea, I can't grasp what ditching MW but keeping Cerberus would be...
Isn't "rivalled" a bit much? I never played Omega, but all we see in ME3 proper are a handful of cruisers.
They darn near captured the Citadel and assassinated the Council (and under some circumstances do kill one of the Councilors)
They manage to invade an STG base on Sur-freaking-kesh! The HOMEWORLD of one of the Council races! They managed to attack one of the salrians' most secure facilities on one of their most secure worlds! While they are at war and expecting trouble!
Not to mention the amount of firepower Hackett has to bring to bear to take down Cronos Station triggers the endgame.
Yeah, I don't thinnk "rivaled" is much of a stretch.
Except even by himself Shepard is more than a match for anyone or anything Cerberus threw at him. Cerberus was nothing but a bunch of bumbling idiots that was only effective when it had plot armor equipped. The only reason Cerberus scores any victories against Shepard is because those victories are preordained. Kai Leng, for example, is a straight up joke that is only effective because of literal invincibility. He's Cerberus' best man but he gets served by a sickly, dying Drell that doesn't even have enough sense not to run at someone with a pistol.
Cerberus was poorly written and stands out as absurdly stupid in a series that became a joke because of absurd stupidity.
I am not all defending Cerberus, but I am curious as to who you think is more formidable in comparison.
Weak, poorly written, or otherwise, no Cerberus amounts to no Commander Shepard.
Because they are a terrible organization who deserve nothing less. Anyone with good qualities left them before or during the Reaper War.
I think the hate stems more from their being done to death, overexposed and over-inflated to the point where any worth they had as a subject of narrative has been completely spent, not because they're meanies that deserve to be left behind. The same is true of the reapers.
No we saw the result. Not the method. How the hell did they manage to take the Citadel which was already on a war footing, and likely on the lookout for sleeper agents (because, you know, indoctrination) And literally come within a few feet of assassinating the Council, the most powerful governing body in the galaxy?
While we didn't see the method onscreen, we read about it in C-Sec reports (basically, Cerberus agents were smuggling weapons onboard while high-ranking sympathisers in C-Sec looked the other way), and the vital part of the attack (Concillor Udina's aid) is the result of a process we've seen onscreen since the first Citadel Council meeting in ME1 (the Council being reluctant to help humanity, and dismissing Udina's concerns every chance they could).
They manage to invade an STG base on Sur-freaking-kesh! The HOMEWORLD of one of the Council races! They managed to attack one of the salrians' most secure facilities on one of their most secure worlds! While they are at war and expecting trouble!
In fairness to this one, the STG had a traitor or traitors on the inside, which was sadly abandoned as a plot thread immediately when the battle started.
This. Thank you.I think the hate stems more from their being done to death, overexposed and over-inflated to the point where any worth they had as a subject of narrative has been completely spent, not because they're meanies that deserve to be left behind. The same is true of the reapers.
In fairness to this one, the STG had a traitor or traitors on the inside.
Also, the STG had a traitor who passed information on to the krogans, so someone telling Cerberus isn't even that unthinkable.
No Cerberus in Andromeda please.
The only idea that comes to my mind, is that cerberus made the ship, or nearly made it, with a collector ship maybe, and the alliance stole it after the cronos station atack. But that´s it.
It was Mordin/Wiks who told the krogan about the females, not just an anonymous traitor. Mordin, at least, is above reproach.Also, the STG had a traitor who passed information on to the krogans, so someone telling Cerberus isn't even that unthinkable.
It was Mordin/Wiks who told the krogan about the females, not just an anonymous traitor. Mordin, at least, is above reproach.
That's why I said "also", as in "in addition to". My point was that if someone was willing to - for whatever reason - pass this information onto the race that the Salarians had been praticising controlled genocide on for centuries, then someone informing Cerberus is not some impossible leap of logic.
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