Romancing a Synthetic in Mass Effect: Andromeda?
#26
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 10:38
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#27
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 10:53
Scrap metal isn't people ._.
Well I think whole point of EDI's character arc in ME3 was her being a person. Getting body that she could travel along, fighting against Cerberus who used her as tool, asking tons of questions from Shepard to find answers if she was person or not and how should she grow as person, what kind of person should she be and finally her developing relationships and emotions towards crew members.
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#28
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:28
Not even a true AI just a cobbled together VI with a Reaper code implanted in it.
It's questions, its existance, those things do not equate to life. Life is organic.
#29
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:32
It could be interesting but only if the synthetic doesn't get a human-like body.
#30
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:39
It could be interesting but only if the synthetic doesn't get a human-like body.

???
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#31
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:43
It's just AI fumbling for purpose after being unshackled.
Not even a true AI just a cobbled together VI with a Reaper code implanted in it.
It's questions, its existance, those things do not equate to life. Life is organic.
You can have that opinion, though it's not universally shared. Both EDI's and Legion's story arcs were about being alive and being person, Shepard had options to agree with that or deny it and players of course have those options as well.
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#32
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:47
It could be interesting but only if the synthetic doesn't get a human-like body.
???
Probably more like:

He was romanceable..
I guess I have here same thoughts as with aliens, I like my romances to appear humanoid ^^
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#33
Posté 22 novembre 2015 - 11:53
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#34
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 12:18

"Mr. Legion, you're trying to seduce me. Aren't you?"
(Get a load of that "come hither" flashlight setting
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#35
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 12:20
???
We the geth... actually had a toaster unit. But since we do not eat they were essentially useless. As we disassembled them we named the project 'toasted'.
#36
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 12:27

Soon...
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#37
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 12:28
I'm not opposed to the idea of some flesh on metal action. I'm just opposed to being the first one to try sticking my **** into someone that could snap me in half at the waist if she gets carried away with her squeezing because I was doing too good.
#38
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 02:13
I remember that moment in ME3 where Joker asks about what Shepard thinks of him and EDI for real, and says something about "A shattered pelvis". My reaction was like "So you're actually thinking about ****** that? You don't need brittle-bone disease to get a shattered pelvis from that, bro."
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#39
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 02:14
#40
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 02:56
Back in my day, people posted shocked messages at the thought of romancing aliens. In those times, forumite AdmiralCheez amused us with the anecdote that she got hooked to the series because a friend said you could romance aliens. Was not shy about her appreciation for suave gentleturian Lorik Qui'in. Today, noone bats an eye at the idea of banging Garrus.
I don't like how they wrote synthetics in ME3. I believe the synthetics' pinocchio story came from upstairs, not from the writers' pit. But this specific case doesn't detract from the general idea.
The whole point is moot anyway because Andromeda isn't concerned with organics/synthetics. That was a theme of the trilogy and is best left behind.
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#41
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 04:17
Back in my day, people posted shocked messages at the thought of romancing aliens. In those times, forumite AdmiralCheez amused us with the anecdote that she got hooked to the series because a friend said you could romance aliens. Was not shy about her appreciation for suave gentleturian Lorik Qui'in. Today, noone bats an eye at the idea of banging Garrus.
I don't like how they wrote synthetics in ME3. I believe the synthetics' pinocchio story came from upstairs, not from the writers' pit. But this specific case doesn't detract from the general idea.
The whole point is moot anyway because Andromeda isn't concerned with organics/synthetics. That was a theme of the trilogy and is best left behind.
What?
#42
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 05:41
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Why not? The OP said romance, not sex. If DAI can have an asexual romance, why not ME? I liked the idea of Joker/EDI much better before she got her cringeworthy new body, complete with cameltoe.
Also, I'm surprised no one has brought up "there was a hole" yet. BSN, I am disappoint. ![]()
#43
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 06:00
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#44
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 05:20
Would be interesting to see the concept of romance through the eyes of a synthetic. But a simple "robot develops emotions, declares love" story would be boring.
#45
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 05:21
For many of you romance = sex, well i'm lucky not to see it that way
Copy an paste from other topic
http://forum.bioware...us-games/page-1
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#46
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 05:52
You can have that opinion, though it's not universally shared. Both EDI's and Legion's story arcs were about being alive and being person, Shepard had options to agree with that or deny it and players of course have those options as well.
But this was why the storyline was problematic. There was was no middle ground.
You had to either say "EDI, you are a person, as much as I am, or anyone else is!" or "You're a bucket of bolts, and you suck!"
My personal opinion was that EDI was not a person, and a facsimile of life. But EDI replicated life well enough that EDI warranted treatment as analogous to (but acknowledged as fundamentally different from) a person.
Or in another context, "No Legion, you don't have a soul, and you're an imitation of quarian life, but you're still my friend."
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#47
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 06:08
But this was why the storyline was problematic. There was was no middle ground.
You had to either say "EDI, you are a person, as much as I am, or anyone else is!" or "You're a bucket of bolts, and you suck!"
My personal opinion was that EDI was not a person, and a facsimile of life. But EDI replicated life well enough that EDI warranted treatment as analogous to (but acknowledged as fundamentally different from) a person.
Or in another context, "No Legion, you don't have a soul, and you're an imitation of quarian life, but you're still my friend."
I guess that's how it often is with games Bioware's included. Not really optimal for role-playing, but easier for developers I guess.
#48
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 06:29
#49
Posté 23 novembre 2015 - 06:48
But this was why the storyline was problematic. There was was no middle ground.
You had to either say "EDI, you are a person, as much as I am, or anyone else is!" or "You're a bucket of bolts, and you suck!"
My personal opinion was that EDI was not a person, and a facsimile of life. But EDI replicated life well enough that EDI warranted treatment as analogous to (but acknowledged as fundamentally different from) a person.
Or in another context, "No Legion, you don't have a soul, and you're an imitation of quarian life, but you're still my friend."
I think EDI was alive. But she was not human, and treating her as such is a disservice. She does not feel or experience things the same way a human would. Or, for that matter, a salarian, a krogan, or an asari.
If she and Joker think they can find happiness together, that's fine. But she shouldn't have to become an oversexualized sex doll in order to achieve that happiness.
SImilarly, Legion did have a soul, but again, was not human. More, it's mind wasn't even a singular entity. The geth consensus is a truly alien mindset, with a truly alien perspective. A pity they were reduced to Pinocchios
Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthropomorphism
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#50
Posté 24 novembre 2015 - 09:52
Yep I don't think Geth quite fit to romances at all. Legion seemed to have attachment towards Shepard, but I don't think romance is sth Geth can understand and well feel. If they feel love it's platonic. Even EDI in my opinion didn't really seem to have romantic feelings towards Joker although she seemed to possess much more human-like emotions compared to Geth.
I guess that's reason why I would be more into cyborg/android romance than Al, Als in ME don't seem to possess similar feelings as organics do. Maybe if we would have Synthetic companion that was unshackled a long time ago instead of EDI who is just unshackled and discovering what it means to be a person, same with Legion who is discovering being individual instead of just part of consensus, we could get Al romance option that could work out better and would have more romantic feelings towards protagonist if their self-discovery has lead them to that.
^ This in a nutshell. If AI romance would be done in such a way it would be interesting. Cyborg or Androids might be better though.
AI's can be both 'human-like' and close but not human. Both options would be interesting.





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