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[duckley]

I find Orlesian culture very annoying. The masks in particular bother me... really... how does one eat and drink...the guy who talks with Josie and Quizzy pretty much has his mask nose in his drink.

Is there any chance that Gaspard, who claims he hates the game, will be fashion forward and drop the masks? Will he aid Orlais to evolve as a culture.

[Nixou]

I doubt whoever sits on the throne will change Orlais...

 

On the other hand, I hope that Dragon Age number five or six will be named "Dragon Age: Revolution"

[RoseLawliet]

Gaspard doesn't care about culture. He's one of the ones who laughed at Celene for caring about things like universities, the arts, racial equality, and peace with other nations. He might try to tone down the Game (if he's not dead), but I have a feeling he'd end up like Maferath's son Isorath, who tried to do the same thing. He was killed by his wife via the Game for his troubles.

[nightscrawl]

The masks aren't about fashion. They're part of The Game in two key ways.

 

The first is that they allow people to hide their true selves, so it's a form of protection as well as a method of deceit. But since everyone wears one, everyone is also on equal footing and a careless facial reaction won't betray you.

 

The second is that almost all masks signify the house or family to whom one belongs, which can of course be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the house. This also extends to servants who venture out; although this wasn't depicted in DAI, it was described in The Masked Empire. There is also an added method of subterfuge of stealing or borrowing the mask of a rival house to do some mischief.

 

Really, it's just a different method of doing things. Theirs are real, physical masks that you can see, and it can be argued that that is actually a more honest way of doing it because everyone is constantly reminded that the person they're dealing with may have some sort of hidden agenda. In comparison, you have a society like Tevinter whose politics are just as toxic and deadly, or even more so, depending on your perspective. They have masks too, but theirs are behavior and words -- Dorian subtly demonstrates this in his obfuscatory dialogue, particularly when he's trying to deflect away from himself. I'll suggest that it is more difficult to tell friend from foe when you allow people to use their face to their advantage, and you also leave yourself more open.

[thats1evildude]

LOSE THE MASKS?! That's, like, the best part of Orlesian culture!

[Aeratus]

The masks aren't about fashion. They're part of The Game in two key ways.

 

The first is that they allow people to hide their true selves, so it's a form of protection as well as a method of deceit. But since everyone wears one, everyone is also on equal footing and a careless facial reaction won't betray you.

 

The second is that almost all masks signify the house or family to whom one belongs, which can of course be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the house. This also extends to servants who venture out; although this wasn't depicted in DAI, it was described in The Masked Empire. There is also an added method of subterfuge of stealing or borrowing the mask of a rival house to do some mischief.

 

Really, it's just a different method of doing things. Theirs are real, physical masks that you can see, and it can be argued that that is actually a more honest way of doing it because everyone is constantly reminded that the person they're dealing with may have some sort of hidden agenda. In comparison, you have a society like Tevinter whose politics are just as toxic and deadly, or even more so, depending on your perspective. They have masks too, but theirs are behavior and words -- Dorian subtly demonstrates this in his obfuscatory dialogue, particularly when he's trying to deflect away from himself. I'll suggest that it is more difficult to tell friend from foe when you allow people to use their face to their advantage, and you also leave yourself more open.

 

I totally agree. The mask indicates the evolution of Orlais into its current political "sophistication." 

 

It's too bad that the game only had a few mask models. They didn't bother to make masks look different between different wearers. 

[RoseLawliet]

Does anyone else think the yellow mask for men looks like pikachu? That's all I could think during that beginning conversation in Haven.

[DragonAgeLegend]

I love Orlesian culture, it's so different. The masks are an important part of that culture. 

[nightscrawl]

Does anyone else think the yellow mask for men looks like pikachu? That's all I could think during that beginning conversation in Haven.

 

... Well I didn't before. Thanks...

[Serza]

Their culture will evolve when the Orlesians grow a third brain cell.

[Eelectrica]

it will evolve

Spoiler

Solas will see to it

[RoseLawliet]

... Well I didn't before. Thanks...

 

Sorry

[almasy87]

I find Orlesian culture very annoying. The masks in particular bother me... really... how does one eat and drink...the guy who talks with Josie and Quizzy pretty much has his mask nose in his drink.

 

Well, I looove masks. However I do think that it is a bit weird that they never take them off.
In Trespasser in the Winter Palace you see Orlesians kissing, and they both wear masks. So how do they kiss??

It amuses me when you ask Cole if he liked the masks and he says "Those weren't their faces?"

[Medhia_Nox]

Sweeping social change doesn't usually happen in the span of a few years.  

 

I'm already annoyed they've nearly wiped the elven and mage backstories on their collective arses in favor of "reforms". 

[SwobyJ]

I found that DAI was more of a strong introduction of Orlais (I don't consider MOTA a 'strong' one), rather than even the biggest stuff we may eventually see.

 

Sure Celine/Gaspard/Briala, but I feel that'll only be relevant to a certain extent and influence only years/decades of plot.

 

One thought I had is that we may get some distance (of 1-2 games) from Orlais before returning and seeing it overthrown in revolution  (or whatever) - at which point we get significantly more 'city content' than DAI provided.

 

Corypheus and the Breach was enough to disrupt and change many ways of things, but I think it'll take something more titanic (HU HU HU ME FUNY)  to change or replace Orlais at its core.

 

We may get notes of some changes of Orlesian culture based on DAI but I don't think anything too large. Instead, we made policy-centric changes. Arguably it'll matter in the long run. Arguably nothing changed.

[AnimalBoy]

I like the masks and Gaspard aren't going to make any chages in any of my future games since i execute him.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Honestly, I like the masks AT FORMAL EVENT ONLY though, not everyday, going shopping or dining out like it is now. I do understand the reasons for them but, surely not everyone wears a mask every waking moment. lets see a bit more of the more relaxed side of Orlais if we deal with it at all again in future games.

[GoldenGail3]

I find Orlesian culture very annoying. The masks in particular bother me... really... how does one eat and drink...the guy who talks with Josie and Quizzy pretty much has his mask nose in his drink.
Is there any chance that Gaspard, who claims he hates the game, will be fashion forward and drop the masks? Will he aid Orlais to evolve as a culture.

OH I love this!