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[Deathjester929]

Mac Walters spending the entire series trying to enforce that synthesis was the correct choice and canon and basically defending the third act of ME 3 that he is responsible for. Synthesis choice is what he pushed hard for in ME 3 (even down to the color choices, which he probably thought was subtle).  Mac getting you to choose synthesis all over again or just taking choice completely away and having a synthesis ending. Would not be surprised that the end of Mac Walter's series (and career) is saying synthesis was the canon ending in the first trilogy. He will probably have all the races break up again and be at odds with each other before the series starts as well (again to push synthesis), so we are basically playing the same trilogy over again. 

 

Even more "morally grey" enemies, that you will side with. Except this time we will not have two awesome games to fight against straight up villains, that Bioware seems incapable of writing now days. As someone else said in a thread title..."some men just want to watch the world burn."

 

Cerberus as the main "villain", because Mac didn't mess that plot line up enough in ME 3, or actually thought it was good. Also they will probably be against transhumanism/synthesis to teach all the people that chose destroy that they were "wrong". 

 

Mac stealing more from Arthur C. Clarke/Kubrick. I think he gets his "ideas" while toking at 3 AM watching TV. "Hehe cool a star child, I am totally going to use this." 

 

- A Mac Walters game

 

See you in a year, when this is the plot of the game and all that is in the middle is a bunch of fetchquests and shooting and promotions for the game that it "pushes barriers" with social justice, because that is all Bioware can hang their hat on now days, even though per Bioware 82 percent of the players from the first trilogy played as Male Shepard (alienating them is a brilliant idea). 

 

You should have promoted Dombrow (Tuchanka) or Weekes (Rannoch) EA. Mac Walters literally has no clue what Mass Effect players want. I don't know how you screw up Mass Effect, but he managed it. There are a million stories that could be told, just like the Star Wars universe. See KOTOR as an example. When you strayed from the original movie trilogy and didn't use the idiotic (things Yoda never taught) prequel Jedi ideology (no love etc) the game was great. When you went back to it (SWTOR) the game was awful. Jolee Bindo and Bastila/Revan showed how dumb the Jedi ideology was, and then you backtracked from that. Something as simple as being an alien spectre in the past could be a great game. 

 

Not every Bioware game has to end up as "universe changing", "life defining", "reality defining" BS. One day you will get the memo. It can just be a story within a much larger story like Kotor. Revan was just one among many that was not more important in the grand scheme of things than any other Sith or Jefi (until you screwed that up to, and tried to make him a Christ like figure in SWTOR). 

 

Last post on this forum. Now go discuss romances people, and blast my post for not arguing over stupid things like how much cleavage or how good looking a GENETICALLY ALTERED being shows (seems to be half the posts on this forum from probably 1 percent of the people who bought the first trilogy)...Most of the people still fanboying Bioware and who post religiously on this forum would be happier with a dating game catering to every kind of sexuality under the sun, with farmville elements...

 

Not a stupidly expensive space opera, where the guy that single-handedly did the most damage to the franchise is given direct control over the next game.

[Kabooooom]

U mad, bro?

[Deathjester929]

U mad, bro?

 

You incapable of dialogue bro?

 

Like I said. No reason for me to post further. I am not discussing "important stuff" to this forums users. They chased off the majority of people who actually bought the first series, since they want to make everything about sexuality and social justice issues...

 

I doubt if most even have jobs to buy this game...let alone the DLC.

[Kabooooom]

I didnt feel like that semi-coherent, tangential and overly elaborate bitchfest of a post necessitated dialogue, to be honest. It sort of seemed like one super long rhetorical post. If you were looking for legit dialogue, it wouldn't have been so laced with sarcasm and annoyance.

Bro.

[wolfsite]

We can all be sure of one thing:

 

 

 

something will happen.

 

 

 

 

I'm going to go get a sandwich now.

[Sir Froggie]

We can all be sure of one thing:
 
 
 
something will happen.
 
 
 
 
I'm going to go get a sandwich now.

You can't prove that and I question the existence of this "sandwich".

[Deathjester929]

I didnt feel like that semi-coherent, tangential and overly elaborate bitchfest of a post necessitated dialogue, to be honest. It sort of seemed like one super long rhetorical post. If you were looking for legit dialogue, it wouldn't have been so laced with sarcasm and annoyance.

Bro.

 

See you in a year when this is the plot. You are probably one of the delusional people that bought into the indoctrination ending and didn't realize Walter's just decided to make the series about transhumanism after probably watching 2001/Matrix (he stole entire scenes and characters/ideas from those movies). Want to know what Bioware did with that theory? LAUGHED at the really dumb people who didn't even understand their game.

 

There was no choice. Synthesis was the only choice. That is why the original ending showed the relays blowing up. He also told you it would eventually happen anyways. Why do you think the ending was a end of Ragnarok/Garden of Eden scene? Why do you think he has "brave new world" written on his notes.

 

He even used cheap plot devices like "Geth have to die" to make you choose that option. The color scheme also pushed you towards synthesis.

 

Why should I discuss ME with someone who didn't even understand Mac's ending (as idiotic as it was given the first two games that he was not the lone lead writer on, like he was on 3). 

 

Now go argue over romances.

[Kabooooom]

See you in a year when this is the plot. You are probably one of the delusional people that bought into the indoctrination ending and didn't realize Walter's just decided to make the series about transhumanism after probably watching 2001/Matrix (he stole entire scenes and characters/ideas from those movies). Want to know what Bioware did with that theory? LAUGHED at the really dumb people who didn't even understand their game.

There was no choice. Synthesis was the only choice. That is why the original ending showed the relays blowing up. He also told you it would eventually happen anyways. Why do you think the ending was a end of Ragnarok/Garden of Eden scene? Why do you think he has "brave new world" written on his notes.

He even used cheap plot devices like "Geth have to die" to make you choose that option. The color scheme also pushed you towards synthesis.

Why should I discuss ME with someone who didn't even understand Mac's ending (as idiotic as it was given the first two games that he was not the lone lead writer on, like he was on 3).

Now go argue over romances.

Cool story, bro. Ur so smurt.

But yes, see you in a year. I'll still be here, enjoying Mass Effect. And you'll be...what, 14 years old, I'm guessing?

[wolfsite]

You can't prove that and I question the existence of this "sandwich".

It was Salami with cheese and lettuce..... which is green...... yes.

[Belial]

"Oh look at me I'm constantly complaining about a writer, I'm clearly better than all of you."

Bye Felicia.

[Synthetic Turian]

[Valkyrja]

[Killroy]

Why is it that stupid a-holes never realize that they're stupid a-holes?

[Mcfly616]

[Deathjester929]

Cool story, bro. Ur so smurt.

But yes, see you in a year. I'll still be here, enjoying Mass Effect. And you'll be...what, 14 years old, I'm guessing?

 

You know what? I will help you out and throw ewe one last bone, since you do not even understand the writer you are fanboying/defending.

 

The dream sequences? Were about death. Everyone that dies in the game is in the dreams.

 

The child was default male Shep in an idea that was probably abandoned due to cost/technical difficulties (showing every custom Shep as a child). He is seen due to stress, not indoctrination. The Prothean A.I. would have told you if you were indoctrinated. You weren't. Kai Leng was. All the errors in the plot, were not due to indoctrination, they were due to Mac Walters being a mediocre lead writer, without peer review.

 

In the dream you are chasing youth, and Shep and the child burn as one. You are mortal. The only way out according to Mac is synthesis. Even though that synthesis is from no one you should be trusting, you have already risen from the dead (Lazarus project), and it in no way assures peace or even immortality (reapers have died), unless you give up all individuality and kill "self" for total agreement, which is why the whole thing is flawed anyways.

 

You die either way and Mac's solution is to become part of the Borg collective.

 

Anyways, go back to the MEME one liners. You didn't even understand a plot from someone who ripped elements off from other sci fi writers... Granted everything was poorly done, but yeah...

 

If you were to ask Mac where he honestly thought he failed? He would probably tell you that he did not impress on people enough that synthesis was the right option...

 

Not that he tried to fit a square peg into a round hole and will do so again.

[AtreiyaN7]

Your "prediction" is just some sort of silly extended rant based on your obvious dislike of Mac Walters and the Synthesis ending in ME3, along with your obvious dislike of the handling of Cerberus, OP.

 

I'm not saying that the ME3 endings were handled well (and have never, ever said that), but what I have always said all along is that the concepts behind the endings were interesting despite the imperfect execution. Transhumanism, sentience, free will, artificial intelligence - those are topics that I find interesting, but I don't think they'll be major plot points in the next game. I'm going to guess that you're really, really against those things in general based on the tenor of your post which seems a bit sour grapes about Synthesis in general.

 

Now just because you have some sort of bee in your bonnet years later over the fact that Synthesis ultimately results in what amounts to a golden age for all the organic and synthetic races (and is ostensibly the ideal ending), that doesn't mean you should subject everyone in the forums to yet another rant-fest about the whole thing. Been there, done that years ago in the ME3 forums. Maybe it's time for you to get over it? Since I did pick Synthesis, perhaps I should just get myself a shiny green chalice in which to collect your oh-so-salty tears, OP. I mean, heck, I'm part Irish-Welsh, I'm sure I could use one on St. Patrick's Day too.

 

And being a fan of both 2001 and The Matrix (the first film - was rather meh about the other two films in the trilogy), two characters who ultimately evolve/transcend their human forms in two completely different ways in two completely different films don't really have all that much in common with ME3 or Synthesis itself.

 

David Bowman is transformed by the creators of the Monolith, but I'd say that what he becomes is more along the lines of the Shepard AI in the Control ending than anything else, though if you read the novel, I'd say that he retains his humanity (at least judging by the ending of 2001 - the NOVEL that is). The movie 2001 is Kubrick's own spin on things, where the ending is left far more enigmatic and open to interpretation than the novel that it's based on. As for the Matrix films, well, Neo eventually morphs into a sort of Christ-like figure, and there were a lot of religious overtones in the later Matrix movies to point that I think it goes way more into more metaphysical mumbo-jumbo with sci-fi trappings, rather than touching on the concept of transhumanism.

[Mcfly616]

Put down the pipe. Crack is whack.

[Deathjester929]

Your "prediction" is just some sort of silly extended rant based on your obvious dislike of Mac Walters and the Synthesis ending in ME3, along with your obvious dislike of the handling of Cerberus, OP.

 

I'm not saying that the ME3 endings were handled well (and have never, ever said that), but what I have always said all along is that the concepts behind the endings were interesting despite the imperfect execution. Transhumanism, sentience, free will, artificial intelligence - those are topics that I find interesting, but I don't think they'll be major plot points in the next game. I'm going to guess that you're really, really against those things in general based on the tenor of your post which seems a bit sour grapes about Synthesis in general.

 

Now just because you have some sort of bee in your bonnet years later over the fact that Synthesis ultimately results in what amounts to a golden age for all the organic and synthetic races (and is ostensibly the ideal ending), that doesn't mean you should subject everyone in the forums to yet another rant-fest about the whole thing. Been there, done that years ago in the ME3 forums. Maybe it's time for you to get over it? Since I did pick Synthesis, perhaps I should just get myself a shiny green chalice in which to collect your oh-so-salty tears, OP. I mean, heck, I'm part Irish-Welsh, I'm sure I could use one on St. Patrick's Day too.

 

And being a fan of both 2001 and The Matrix (the first film - was rather meh about the other two films in the trilogy), two characters who ultimately evolve/transcend their human forms in two completely different ways in two completely different films don't really have all that much in common with ME3 or Synthesis itself.

 

David Bowman is transformed by the creators of the Monolith, but I'd say that what he becomes is more along the lines of the Shepard AI in the Control ending than anything else, though if you read the novel, I'd say that he retains his humanity (at least judging by the ending of 2001 - the NOVEL that is). The movie 2001 film is Kubrick's own spin on things, where the ending is left far more enigmatic and open to interpretation than the novel that it's based on. As for the Matrix films, well, Neo eventually morphs into a sort of Christ-like figure, and there were a lot of religious overtones in the later Matrix movies to point that I think it goes way more into more metaphysical mumbo-jumbo, rather than touching on the concept of transhumanism, with sci-fi trappings.

 

2001? The monolith in the books was a pyramid. The monolith in the movies is the movie screen (rectangle). Kubrick is laughing at his audience, by saying that he is basically indoctrinating you.

 

Matrix? Neo is at the end of the series. What are the oracle and the kid looking at? The sun. You will see references to Sol and the sun around Neo often in the trilogy.

 

Oh and most people disliked all the Matrix movies after 1, just like they disliked ME 3. Go ahead and try to argue with it's USER metacritic rating compared to ME 1 and ME 2). You would be arguing empirical evidence, but go for it. You can do the same thing with the Matrix movies after 1. 

 

Casey Hudson produced solid gold until ME 3. Mac Walters was the problem. Funny that you bring up Matrix, when that movie was stolen from a female writer. Seems the Wachowski brothers also tried to fit a square peg into a round hole as the trilogy went on. It also failed.

 

Like the Wachowski brothers, I expect Walter's Andromeda to end up like Jupiter Ascending. Complete trash. Walters could not even continue solid gold (as far as gaming). You really expect him to be able to produce a great game in Casey Hudson's role, given the only solo lead writing project he has ever done was ME 3, and the only universally liked parts of the games were from other writers? 

 

Good luck with that.

[Mcfly616]

Well, why don't you cry about it, saddlebags.

[BENIIICHAT]

Umm.... I came here to read about Predicte Andromeda plot but the detail is not about Andromeda at all

[Battlebloodmage]

Depend on how much fiber I consume a day.

[Serza]

 

Situation: averted.

 

Thank goodness for an opportunity for my favorite motivational!

[Dantriges]

I am not really a fan of Mac Walters but I don´t think he´s eager to rekindle the flames and write a story just to ram synthesis down the throats of people who bought the next game. It could be that he is as fed up with all the stuff surrounding the ending as everyone else and doesn´t want to touch the issue again, considering that it´s over 3 years now and whatever feelings he had about people not getting it, probably cooled down a bit. He might still think that the ME 3 ending might be the best thing ever, doesn´t mean that he wants to go there again, because he knows the reactions will be the same again.

 

Anyways Walters isn´t the sole decision maker at Bioware. I don´t think that the CEO or EA are looking over his shoulders all the time and have enough other things to do, it will probably be pretty obvious if the lead writer goes on a crusade against the customers, it´s not like he´s the only one working on that thing.

 

So it might be possible, but it´s rather unlikely.

[Helios969]

Three years late...move on.

[Wolfryck]

Hey now

 

Sex and boobs are the reason I got to Mass Effect.