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[gothpunkboy89]

Classic example of a l2p problem...

 

Oh please then do take a volus and have it take direct fire see how long it lasts compared to other characters.

 

Build in cloak is nice but has 5 second cool down so not like you can just spam it as soon as you decloak to avoid damage.

 

Recon and proximity mine at least on engineer only become very useful late in their evolution tree were you can increase damage done using them. And unless you have the right gear bonus and weapons. Most guides I've seen recommended the Venom shot gun or the scorpion pistol. Of which not every player will have at their disposal.

 

And you will inevitably be pinned or surrounded so you start taking heavy fire. More so on upload and escort missions. But it does happen.

[Sentinel2010]

Build in cloak is nice but has 5 second cool down so not like you can just spam it as soon as you decloak to avoid damage.

Please tell me you do know that Volus has two cloaks with their CDs separated.

[Salarian Master Race]

 

 

Build in cloak is nice but has 5 second cool down so not like you can just spam it as soon as you decloak to avoid damage.

 

 

You sure about that?

 

[gothpunkboy89]

You sure about that?

 

 

 

Yes I am sure about that.  I could never get my Vol enginner to double cloak like that. It always took 5 seconds before it would let me cloak a second time.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Volus players should learn to spam their cloak instead of shield boost.

 

Oh, those heady days in 2012 when the complaints were about all those infiltrators dumping aggro on their teammates.

 

How times change.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Build in cloak is nice but has 5 second cool down so not like you can just spam it as soon as you decloak to avoid damage.

 

There's a bug in Volus design that results in the "sprinting" volus having a separate cooldown from the "walking/static" Volus. If you're trying to cloak and it isn't working, switch from whatever you're doing to the other, and you will almost always be able to cloak again.

 

Please tell me you do know that Volus has two cloaks with their CDs separated.

 

This is not common meta information. Nor is it easy for someone to sort out on their own. Most people won't know about it, so it's best not to assume it's common knowledge.

I only found out about it a few months ago, and I've been playing since launch.

[Sentinel2010]

Oh, those heady days in 2012 when the complaints were about all those infiltrators dumping aggro on their teammates.

How times change.

So you would prefer reviving that pity ball every five seconds or getting locked more often?
Sometimes you have to choose between annoyance and more annoyance.

[Salarian Master Race]

There's a bug in Volus design that results in the "sprinting" volus having a separate cooldown from the "walking/static" Volus. If you're trying to cloak and it isn't working, switch from whatever you're doing to the other, and you will almost always be able to cloak again.

 

 

I'm not sure it's a bug with the Volus.  Put a Batarian Gauntlet on any character, and your standing Heavy Melee becomes a Falcon Punch.  But your running Heavy Melee is unchanged.  It is entirely separate.  And of course, KroLord running melee is another example.  Running melees are defined for all kits, and the Volus would be no different.  They literally would have had to define them individually; e.g.

 

1-Light Melee

2-Heavy Melee

3-Running "Heavy Melee"

 

Let's take the Justicar as an example:

 

1-Light Melee

2-Nova

3-Running Nova

 

She puts on the Batarian Gauntlet.  It redefines her 2-Nova, but her 3-Running Nova is unchanged; she can still do it.  Incidentally, this is also what happens when you put the Batarian Gauntlet on the Krogan Soldier.  His 3-Running Heavy Melee is unchanged.  It does not become a Falcon Punch, but rather inherits the properties of the Batarian Gauntlet, to give his backhand decapitation properties.  Now let's look at the Volus:

 

1-Cloak

2-Shield Bubble

3-Cloak

 

The Batarian Gauntlet redefines 2, but 1 and 3 are unchanged.  And in fact, the Volus does not fit the typical template (2 and 3 being the same; whereas with the Volus 1 and 3 are the same).  This is deliberate by design.

 

 

Yes I am sure about that.  I could never get my Vol enginner to double cloak like that. It always took 5 seconds before it would let me cloak a second time.

 

I love how, in spite of video evidence, he insists that it is not possible because he can't do it.  Oh, BSN.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

So you would prefer reviving that pity ball every five seconds or getting locked more often?
Sometimes you have to choose between annoyance and more annoyance.

 

I wasn't aware I indicated a preference.

[Dalakaar]

Yes I am sure about that.

You really shouldn't be.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I'm not sure it's a bug with the Volus.

 

I don't know how the bug works exactly, but the practical application with the Volus is definitely unique.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Nice, then i have another reason to use my glitched volus protector

 

[Salarian Master Race]

I don't know how the bug works exactly, but the practical application with the Volus is definitely unique.

 

I dabble with code, script, and work on an indie game that will probably never be released.  Rule of thumb is that a program cannot do anything that it is not specifically instructed to do.  The reason you are able to do a Running Heavy Melee that is different from the standing Heavy Melee with a Batarian Gauntlet, is because the program would be told how to handle each type independently.  If there was no definition for 3, then it would also become a Falcon Punch.  The fact that it does not indicates that it is a separate definition.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I dabble with code, script, and work on an indie game that will probably never be released.  Rule of thumb is that a program cannot do anything that it is not specifically instructed to do.  The reason you are able to do a Running Heavy Melee that is different from the standing Heavy Melee with a Batarian Gauntlet, is because the program would be told how to handle each type independently.  If there was no definition for 3, then it would also become a Falcon Punch.  The fact that it does not indicates that it is a separate definition.

 

 

But yes, I do get what you mean broadly. I just meant that in the case of the Volus, there is a unique phenomenon that allows the same power to be used in rapid succession. It is undoubtedly a consequence of the fact that the Volus has a traditional melee function replaced with Tactical Cloak, a unique application, species-wise, of the light melee.

[afgncaap7]

The shield boost glitch makes me sick. You get screwed over because you've got a teammate that's actively trying to help their team stay alive by spamming an incredibly useful healing ability that's got "use this near your team" written all over it. I refuse to feel any anger at a volus that activates this glitch. No, that crap's on BetaWare and their sh***y quality control. This glitch should've been patched within a month of the volus being added.

[gothpunkboy89]

I love how, in spite of video evidence, he insists that it is not possible because he can't do it.  Oh, BSN.

 

Never said it wasn't impossible. Just that I have never been able to do it.

 

Also PC videos always make me suspicious. You can modify games on PC so easily and given the time the game was released and how old it is. I don't see EA wasting any real time on patrolling the game. Nor players reporting for a small change like that.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

This glitch should've been patched within a month of the volus being added.

 

If I understand correctly, the issue is not specific to the Volus. It is more noticeable with the Volus because of the increased frequency of their shield boosting power, making it more common than it was with less frequent shield boosts like the Geth Turret.

 

That means that the QA team likely had limited information to work with prior to the addition of Volus into the MP game. Once they Volus brought the issue into glaring focus, there were only a couple of months left of support. Given the broad complexity of the issues that they were facing at the time, I don't blame them in the slightest for not giving the "shield boost bug" much priority, especially given that it is 100% resolved for all non-Volus species with a heavy melee.

 

It makes sense to prioritize QA issues that have no workarounds over those that do.

[Salarian Master Race]

Never said it wasn't impossible. Just that I have never been able to do it.

 

Also PC videos always make me suspicious. You can modify games on PC so easily and given the time the game was released and how old it is. I don't see EA wasting any real time on patrolling the game. Nor players reporting for a small change like that.

 

There is nothing to report because this is working as intended.  It is possible on all platforms.  Ask anyone who knows more than you do, which is everyone who doesn't live in your bubble.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Also PC videos always make me suspicious.

 

We're a little past the days when this was an issue.

 

Yes, there are certain posters who deserve to be vilified for uploading deceptive videos. I suffered in the early days from a few such examples.

 

But that was 2012. In 2015, I can tell the difference between an honest video and a dishonest one, as can most of the community. I would confidently say that you can trust the community on this one - Volus Cloak works as described in this thread.

[Terminator Force]

^ Yes. I agree. Why 66666 is a feature too. It can done on all platforms for ME3mp. So hurrah for cheati...er, "features."

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

^ Yes. I agree. Why 66666 is a feature too. It can done on all platforms for ME3mp. So hurrah for cheati...er, "features."

 

I hadn't clicked "view it anyway" in nearly 6 months. Thanks for reminding me why.

[Salarian Master Race]

I hadn't clicked "view it anyway" in nearly 6 months. Thanks for reminding me why.

 

Dammit man, I'm trying to go to bed here, but I have a backlog of 6 posts to Like, I can't sleep until that many Likes refresh, and you're not helping the situation.

[Dalakaar]

I hadn't clicked "view it anyway" in nearly 6 months. Thanks for reminding me why.

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[Salarian Master Race]

Now I'm up to 7.  Thanks, cloaca

[gothpunkboy89]

There is nothing to report because this is working as intended. It is possible on all platforms. Ask anyone who knows more than you do, which is everyone who doesn't live in your bubble.

Bit snippy there aren't you. Did I touch a nerve? Game mods are possible on every console but even more common in pc. Hence why some developers are less then willing to release their games on pc. Added. I guide I've found yet about them shows this infinite cloak is possible.

Even then that seems like some bug abuse. Even with draw backs infinite cloak seems a bit much. I got the trilogy long after EA or Bio stopped giving a care about it besides some extra dlc/mtx money. Did any devs comment that this is working as intended?