Solas will tell an Inquisitor he dislikes that killing him or her will only cause more senseless chaos, and this is even if the Inquisitor tries to attack him. So instead he elects to save the Inquisitor's life by removing the anchor, and the lower arm with it.
So... if Solas spared the Inquisitor simply because killing him or her would cause senseless chaos, then what will he do in the case of an Inquisitor who disbands the Inquisition?
Will he kill the player character who is no longer Inquisitor and whose death would be inconsequential at that point? A person who poses even a slight risk to foiling his grand plan? He was ready to let Viddasala go until she decided to attack him. So what if a non-Inquisitor attacks him or tries to stop him?
Also, would this apply to a friend or ex-girlfriend who is no longer Inquisitor? He figures you're going to die anyway if he destroys the Veil, right?
For that matter, is the role of Inquisitor a shield of any kind against any hostile actions from Solas? If it came down to killing the Inquisitor or preserving his plan, wouldn't he still choose to kill the Inquisitor and just accept that the ensuing chaos was necessary?
Or is this all just a situation BioWare neglected to consider when they made the ending?
I will give my thoughts later, but now I'm interested to read what others think of this.
Basically Solas has the weird idea that provided people in the south get a few years of relative peace and die in comfort, then he can feel better about it. He obviously doesn't feel the same way about the Tevinter because he has redirected the Qunari back up there. Plus he know that rulers tend to get very apathetic about things that aren't directly affecting them and it is hinted in the epilogue that not everyone believes the Inquisitor, so likely most will react in much the same way the nobles in Kirkwall did to Hawke's discovery that the Qunari had large numbers of sleeper agents across Thedas; they preferred not to believe them. In fact it would seem that even people who should have known better, like Leliana, didn't take the news seriously or she'd have vetted those elves much more carefully.
So if he had killed the Inquisitor or let the anchor kill them (in what would likely have been a spectacular magical explosion) that might have unsettled people more and they might have started getting too interested in what he was doing. Thus I think it highly unlikely that he would kill even an ex-Inquisitor provided they didn't get his way, because that would lend validity to their story. As things stand people might put their rather far fetched tale about an ancient elf god about to destroy the world down to the trauma of losing their arm, plus a desire to remain important. After all the majority of people believe in the Maker, or claim to, so how could Solas possibly destroy the Veil? The Inquisitor destroyed the orb that Corypheus used. No one witnessed the conversation between Solas and the Inquisitor. Their close companions believe them but that's probably it. Teagan and Cyril believed about Solas and the Qunari because there was evidence but if they truly believed Solas was going to destroy the world would they really have insisted on disbanding/controlling the Inquisition?
If the Inquisitor got directly in the way of Solas' plan, then he might kill them but as things stand, the Inquisitor doesn't even know where Solas is, let alone what his next move is going to be. So I imagine Solas will be happy to leave them ranting against him but achieving little else.
You're over-thinking this. He said that because they had to come up with some reason why he wouldn't kill the PC when he hates him. it's a game and the PC is your avatar - are you really going to be cool with paying fifteen bucks for a DLC where you die because you annoyed an NPC prior to the DLC?!
What legit reason could they give after all? It's just the best one they could think of under the circumstances.
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You're over-thinking this. He said that because they had to come up with some reason why he wouldn't kill the PC when he hates him. it's a game and the PC is your avatar - are you really going to be cool with paying fifteen bucks for a DLC where you die because you annoyed an NPC prior to the DLC?!
What legit reason could they give after all? It's just the best one they could think of under the circumstances.
IMO the Inquisitor's death should have been an option. Not a guarantee, but an option based on various choices. However, that would unnecessarily complicate things for the next game, so I prefer it the way it was done.
Solas will tell an Inquisitor he dislikes that killing him or her will only cause more senseless chaos, and this is even if the Inquisitor tries to attack him. So instead he elects to save the Inquisitor's life by removing the anchor, and the lower arm with it.
So... if Solas spared the Inquisitor simply because killing him or her would cause senseless chaos, then what will he do in the case of an Inquisitor who disbands the Inquisition?
Will he kill the player character who is no longer Inquisitor and whose death would be inconsequential at that point? A person who poses even a slight risk to foiling his grand plan? He was ready to let Viddasala go until she decided to attack him. So what if a non-Inquisitor attacks him or tries to stop him?
Also, would this apply to a friend or ex-girlfriend who is no longer Inquisitor? He figures you're going to die anyway if he destroys the Veil, right?
For that matter, is the role of Inquisitor a shield of any kind against any hostile actions from Solas? If it came down to killing the Inquisitor or preserving his plan, wouldn't he still choose to kill the Inquisitor and just accept that the ensuing chaos was necessary?
Or is this all just a situation BioWare neglected to consider when they made the ending?
I will give my thoughts later, but now I'm interested to read what others think of this.
Even if the Inquisitor isn't the Inquisitor, he or she is still a public figure. With potentially any of these contacts:
A comte of Kirkwall (complete with key to the city ) with the ear of the Viscount
A personal friend/lover of a Tevinter magister
Personal friend/lover of the new Lady Seeker
Personal friend/lover of one of the most famous mercenary bands in southern Thedas
Friend of the Divine (and possibly secret lover)
Has the Emperor/Empress of Orlais owe their throne to the Inquisitor
A member of the Red Jennies
Allied to (and possibly married to) a resurgent Antivan noble family
I'm sure I missed a few.
But I must point out, Clarence-like, that the Inquisitor has in fact had a wonderful life, and over the years has made powerful contacts and Alliances, which can potentially continue beyond the Inquisition itself. Solas cannot easily move against the Inquisitor. Not without causing ripples.
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@Gervaise What if Solas believes that the ex-Inquisitor is a threat to that short peace? Such as, the ex-Inquisitor's efforts to stop him will not only cause the world's current suffering to continue (by threatening to foil his Tear Down the Veil plan), but also cause those in the current world to fight against Solas and possibly other elves, thus leading to greater suffering? Would Solas kill the ex-Inquisitor in this case, especially one he hates? He killed the Qunari because they offended him. Also, I think most of the important people would believe the Xquiz, especially with the Divine corroborating everything. Those important people are more likely to believe if they have some connection with such events. Like Celene and Briala, or Alistair and the Hero (especially one connected to Morrigan or Leliana). So the major nations will be doing all they can to stop Solas as well.
I think the failure to check for spies was just more forced storyline in order to shoehorn the Viddasala plot into the game.
Yes, but people die. People also disappear mysteriously (even when they don't really). Who's to say that Solas killed the Xquiz if the Xquiz winds up dead or goes missing? Eaten by wolves, perhaps.
Desire to remain important does quite jive with disbanding the Inquisition though, does it? Even if loss of an arm somehow caused delusions about elven myths coming alive to merge the Real with the Fade, that wouldn't explain the fact that something similar to this did happen already just a few years prior because of ancient elvhen magic. And again, the Divine would corroborate the account.
The Maker created a lot of things that can be destroyed. Why would the Veil be any different, keeping in mind this was already demonstrated with the Breach?
The Orb was destroyed, but does the rest of the world know that for certain? No. Did anyone witness the conversation between them? No. But the anchor is gone, and if the Xquiz says Solas now has the anchor, then it is only logical to believe it. He was the one who kept the anchor under control the first three days. And regardless, the companions did witness the Shattered Library and what the spirits there said about the Veil.
Yes, they still would have stuck to their original plans because each believed their plans were best. Cyril would believe the Inquisition could beat Solas, but only with "professional" oversight from Orlesian nobles. Teagan would believe the Inquisition incapable of beating Solas based on recent events, such as getting infiltrated by his spies, having the Qunari turned against them, him getting the mark back while severing the Inquisitor's arm, etc.
But the question is if Solas spared the Inquisitor because his or her death as Inquisitor would only cause more unnecessary chaos, then resigning as Inquisitor means any chaos that would be caused has already taken effect. Which means, Solas now has no reason not to kill the ex-Inquisitor. If he hates the Xquiz, and thinks he or she stands even the slightest threat to his plans, then why not kill the Xquiz? At the least the Xquiz would be an unknown element. A risk. Why take the risk, especially when that person is going to die anyway when the Veil is removed?
@sim-ran Thanks, but I don't think I'm overthinking this. It's the logical conclusion to what Solas said. I know they had to come up with something, and I think there were better reasons they could have come up with, which is why I wrote that this could just be an oversight on BioWare's part. However, he said what he said. So assuming he meant it, and assuming it matters to the storyline, follow it through to the logical conclusion. If the now ex-Inquisitor's death will not cause any chaos or senseless bloodshed, and Solas hates the Xquiz, and the Xquiz poses any kind of threat to his plan, and if the Xquiz is going to die along with his or her world anyway, then why not kill the Xquiz now?
Well the reason I would have given, had I been lead writer, is that Solas does not want to see anyone suffer... except for the Inquisitor that he disapproves of. He would want the Inquisitor to know the pain of losing all his real power, and know the feeling of watching the world end and having no way to stop it. Why? Because a tyrant like him/her deserves it, just as the evanuris deserved to live forever isolated with the knowledge of what they had done.
That is unless there is a special storyline in the works where Solas will attack the Xquiz that he disapproves of in the next game.
@nightscrawl Maybe it would complicate things, maybe not. I agree that it should have been an option, and then in the next game either Cassandra or Leliana would take the place of the late Inquisitor.
@Iakus Okay, and lets assume the Xquiz is as many of those things you listed as possible, and also the best possible combination of those things. Now the question is, would the world miss that Xquiz? Would that Xquiz's death cause chaos or needless bloodshed? I don't think it would, and certainly not if the death looked like an accident, or if the Xquiz mysteriously disappeared, or...
I guess I'll have to up the ante for this thread....
If the death appeared to be of mysterious or even natural means.
This video implies that Solas can appear in the romanced elf female's dreams. The game also shows that Solas and the Inquisitor, regardless of origin, can communicate with each other in dreams. Now consider the lore about the Dreamwalkers of Tevinter who were said to be able to enter into someone's dream and kill them from the Fade.
Can Solas invade any player character's dream and kill them?
You're over-thinking this. He said that because they had to come up with some reason why he wouldn't kill the PC when he hates him. it's a game and the PC is your avatar - are you really going to be cool with paying fifteen bucks for a DLC where you die because you annoyed an NPC prior to the DLC?!
What legit reason could they give after all? It's just the best one they could think of under the circumstances.
Actually it would be intreasting,in Oblivion shegorath killed me several times because i annoyed him.
Even if the Inquisitor isn't the Inquisitor, he or she is still a public figure. With potentially any of these contacts:
A comte of Kirkwall (complete with key to the city ) with the ear of the Viscount
A personal friend/lover of a Tevinter magister
Personal friend/lover of the new Lady Seeker
Personal friend/lover of one of the most famous mercenary bands in southern Thedas
Friend of the Divine (and possibly secret lover)
Has the Emperor/Empress of Orlais owe their throne to the Inquisitor
A member of the Red Jennies
Allied to (and possibly married to) a resurgent Antivan noble family
I'm sure I missed a few.
But I must point out, Clarence-like, that the Inquisitor has in fact had a wonderful life, and over the years has made powerful contacts and Alliances, which can potentially continue beyond the Inquisition itself. Solas cannot easily move against the Inquisitor. Not without causing ripples.
moment i thought that it was not possible for the inquisitor to romance the Divine i mean continue the relationship with Cassandra,since she is the only one who can be romanced.
btb that is impressive but still nothing compared to a specific path that can be chosen by the HoF
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) with the ear of the Viscount
