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[Beregond5]

When it comes to my playthroughs, said Warden Ally is Stroud, so... no, no reason at all.

[Qun00]

When it comes to my playthroughs, said Warden Ally is Stroud, so... no, no reason at all.

Ahh, good ol' moustache man. He exists to make this decision easier.

[Dabrikishaw]

Not for me, Stroud > Hawke.

[Beregond5]

Ahh, good ol' moustache man. He exists to make this decision easier.

Couldn't have said it better myself. XD

[Aren]

I'd consider saving Alistair for personal reasons, and I'd consider saving Loghain because if the man survived thus far, he's won the right to keep living, but even then, it would depend on my Hawke. Logically, it makes sense to spare the Warden. The Order needs the kind of leader who would defy a bad order because it's bad.  But I still spare my favorite Hawke time and again because he's mine.

However this would be a sort of disconnection between the Inquisitor and you as a player.

Your Inquisitor may have liked Hawke more than Alistair,but you as the player are influenced by some past of whom the inquisitor do not care.

[vellveteen]

I had to sacrifice hawke instead of alistair in my playthrough. The decision was hard though because both are good characters. I didn't complete dragon age 2 so maybe that is why I would rather save Alistair. They say the warden companion is needed to rebuild to the wardens after but it seems like the only important part of the decision was varrics approval. 

[renfrees]

To the Inquisitor they all are kinda on the same level of familiarity, so it depends on a player's personal attachement to one or another. I headcanon that my Inquisitors have read "Tale of the Champion" (some - Cassandra's copy ) and are sort of Hawke's fans. It gives personal emotional meaning to them as characters to save Hawke. Also, in their eyes the Wardens are many; they'd slaughtered plenty just to get to Clarel, not mentioning what the Wardens did to themselves, so one less would make no difference.

[Iakus]

I don't believe it's ever said that the fate of the Wardens as a whole is at stake if they lack an Orlaisian warden of senior rank.

 

But, I've got the Warden-Constable of Val Chevin right over he...

 

...oh 

[Dancing_Dolphin]

Because you want to be horribly cruel to Varric? I've never done it myself, but I know he gets pretty upset if you leave Hawke in the Fade. It would be interesting to see how the scene plays out if Varric is there and Hawke stays behind.

Varric greatly disapproves, but depending on your overall approval, eventually he gets over it.

I usually leave Loghain in the Fade, it just feels right. A sad ending for a fallen hero.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Varric greatly disapproves, but depending on your overall approval, eventually he gets over it.

I usually leave Loghain in the Fade, it just feels right. A sad ending for a fallen hero.

I ended up doing that because I just couldn't bring myself to kill Hawke, but I seriously considered saving Loghain so that he could go to Weisshaupt and sort out whatever problems the Grey Wardens are having there.

[NotSoDeepMushroomFarmer]

I had Stroud in my playthrough but sacrificed Hawke nonetheless. 

I jus think it's an epic ending for Hawke and he/she deserves it. Hawke died in my game because she was done with her story and I don't know, I just feel kind of more comfortable letting my companions handle the serious stuff.

I have to agree with Just_January, but for me Hawe is the hero.

Also I feel like if you leave Stroud to live he can finally get a grip of himself and talk about the distressing things he saw back at the fade. He kind of has to learn his lesson and spread everything what happened among the Grey Wardens before he can die a hero death..

[Pistolized]

How do you people live with yourselves meta-gaming like that?

 

Anyway, I didn't sacrifice Hawke, and I didn't save Stroud.  Hawke volunteered; I just acknowledged his decision.  

[AnimalBoy]

Hawke has to be one of my favorite, if not favorite video game character of all time so no one could ever persuade me, nor could any situation arise where i would leave Hawke behind. I would sacrifice any other character to make sure Hawke lived.

[Edorian27]

Alistair = about 20 Years left to live from the beginning of the last blight.. so not much left for him but the deep roads

Hawke = Got Isabela/Merryl to return to and a life ahead of him

 

So the decision is easy: The dying warden sacrifices himself

[Tidus]

I went through this today.. I saved Alistair and wrote Hawke off. Never like Hawke anyway that's why I play a female Hawke in DA:2.

[Patchwork]

Something that's always bothered me about this quest is how unnecessary it all seems, they ended up in the Fade because the Inquisitor opened a rift so why not just open another one? But instead we fight our way through Nightmare's realm and rather than all running through the open rift the Inquisitor, Stroud and Hawke stop to have a debate about who should be the one to stay and try to kill the Nightmare demon. And if someone must why not the person who can escape the Fade after it's done?

 

Anyway I choose Strode and headcanon why Hawke decides to leave instead of helping the Inquisition fight Cory but the internal logic of the quest is really bad. Not Redcliffe bad but still bad.    

[Hazegurl]

The IQ opened the rift by accident.  But it is odd that the IQ doesn't even try to open another rift to see if they can escape.  That would have been the first thing to try.  The entire Fade portion was just pointless anyway.  Just an attempt to get rid of Hawke more than anything.

[Qun00]

I don't think it was an accident. The Inquisitor does master the anchor's abilities to some extent. That's how s/he killed Corypheus later on.

[dragonflight288]

At this point in Thedas Grey Wardens don't even interest me anymore, at least those in Ferelden and Orlais. The only ones I care about are Loghain, Anders, and Carver. But that's more for their character arcs than GW status.

 

I think most citizens of Thedas feel the same way.

 

Until a blight starts then Wardens are an absolute necessity. 

[Apo]

It was very simple for me, in the last dialogue when they're arguing which one must remain, Hawke tells us that a warden must help the order rebuild and that Corypheus is his responsability so he/she stays in the fade

[Respite]

I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the Inquisitor's heart, she sees a piece of herself in Marian Hawke - someone who picked up the hero's mantle rather grudgingly, but does what she has to because someone has to. And I think that when she asks Stroud/Not-Hawke to stay in the Fade, somewhere inside she feels like there's a future for people like them. 

 

Either that, or she knows that whatever bit of her ass Varric hadn't kicked, Isabela has dibs on.

[Xerrai]

Well depending on how much stock you put in theories, leaving the grey warden essentially leaves a tained creature in the fade only this time its not locked up in the Balck City. Now add that to the tidbits of 'lyrium being alive (or something like it)' and how Solas refers to the Fade as a 'state of nature' (which implies a certain degree of life)....

 

But that's just a theory--a GAME THEORY. Thanks for reading.

[myahele]

If it's Alistair, then yes. Otherwise, I don't see why you'd keep a warden unless you prefer them over Hawke.

[SwobyJ]

Well depending on how much stock you put in theories, leaving the grey warden essentially leaves a tained creature in the fade only this time its not locked up in the Balck City. Now add that to the tidbits of 'lyrium being alive (or something like it)' and how Solas refers to the Fade as a 'state of nature' (which implies a certain degree of life)....

 

But that's just a theory--a GAME THEORY. Thanks for reading.

 

Yes I was very worried about this. Leaving a Taint-variety right with the friggin NIGHTMARE.

[GoldenGail3]

I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the Inquisitor's heart, she sees a piece of herself in Marian Hawke - someone who picked up the hero's mantle rather grudgingly, but does what she has to because someone has to. And I think that when she asks Stroud/Not-Hawke to stay in the Fade, somewhere inside she feels like there's a future for people like them. 
 
Either that, or she knows that whatever bit of her ass Varric hadn't kicked, Isabela has dibs on.

Huh? My Hawke with an Alistair save was a Hawke I haven't even played. They were a Male Aggressive Warrior Hawke who I didn't play in DA2 so yeah, my Quzi felt okay about killing Hawke (My Amell would be pretty pissed off If I had let Alistair die. So I saved myself the trouble of having an angry Warden Commander killing my Female Mage Lavellan who'd romance Solas, so yeah I decided my Female Amell needed a happy ending) and that's becuase Hawke romaced Merril, who was left to mourn over his remains and my Solasvallan was left to an unhappy fate. So yeah, I left my Warden to go a happy ending. One person in my Worldstate deserves a happy ending anyhow.