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[Sartoz]

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In the DA:I forums I've always maintained my disappointment with ther game given Bio's marketing: especially after the famous "a PC game for PC gamers by PC gamers.."  and just coming off from playing DA:O and DA2 in anticipation of DA:I. Meaning I interpreted the UI and PC controls would remain the same way as the previous two.  Also, in the forums, posts were made about Bio/EA paying the game review sites to, well, say nice things about the game.

 

Interesting I came across this:

"Last week Breaking Benjamin’s frontman Benjamin Burnley, literally destroyed a copy of Star Wars Battlefront when he was asked to talk positively about the game on social media".

 

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In an interview with radio station WCYY, the singer was asked why he destroyed his Battlefront copy. Burnley is a known Star Wars fan, but according to the singer he was asked by an EA representative to talk positively about the shooter on social media. According Burnley he would be happy to promote the game, if it was indeed a good game, which it isn’t.

“For me to say that a Star Wars game sucks sh*t, it must really be a sh*tty game, and that it is”, the singer said.

 

And also from Benjaminbunrleybb

http://cdn.wccftech....ingbenjamin.png

 

The point to all of this is that marketing can be shady and we need to undertand this..... especially when it comes to the future marketing of ME:A and what review site say about it.

 

 

 

 

[Zazzerka]

At least he handled the matter with maturity and understanding.

[Laughing_Man]

At least he handled the matter with maturity and understanding.

 

A mature and understanding person would have asked for money, he simply decided to speak his mind instead.

[Zazzerka]

A mature and understanding person would have asked for money

 

Or refused and moved on. Celebrity endorsements are a thing, and the faux outrage at the concept and taking photos of things he's broken strikes me as childish.

[SolNebula]

Much respect to Benjamin and his honesty. Battlefront is such a cash grab scheme that every good SW fan should be annoyed by it. Strip a game to its bones raise the price twofold for the complete experience (season pass). Typical EA.

The fact EA asked him to talk positively about their game instead of just asking to share his impression not only demonstrate how EA knows its product was weak but also the dishonesty and lack of business ethics in explicitly telling him to be positive about it.

 

On the issue of maturity if being mature and professional means being a liar and a sellout (like most mainstream media) then I hope for more immature people around.

[Synthetic Turian]

Market me a a 1TB PS4 Andromeda console bundle, that has an N7 logo on it.

[wolfsite]

Every company does stuff like this so nothing new here.  Plus Benjemin probably knew he would get more reaction from people by doing something negative to the game rather than something positive so he probably got more out of it by trashing the game rather than praising it (because we all know the Internet loves hate - hell when someone says something positive these days the first thing that comes is "Sell-out" so even if he did like the game it would have been better for his reputation to trash it)

 

Besides when the reviews for Andromeda come out and they are positive people would just be on here bashing it and saying those reviews were "paid off" because they have been conditioned to think that way or don't like opinions that go against there preconceived idea of a product without playing it.  So this is pretty much a no win situation.

[SolNebula]

Every company does stuff like this so nothing new here.  Plus Benjemin probably knew he would get more reaction from people by doing something negative to the game rather than something positive so he probably got more out of it by trashing the game rather than praising it (because we all know the Internet loves hate - hell when someone says something positive these days the first thing that comes is "Sell-out" so even if he did like the game it would have been better for his reputation to trash it)

 

Besides when the reviews for Andromeda come out and they are positive people would just be on here bashing it and saying those reviews were "paid off" because they have been conditioned to think that way or don't like opinions that go against there preconceived idea of a product without playing it.  So this is pretty much a no win situation.

 

Every company promote their goods but one thing is asking someone to review it (in the hope they see the merits of your product) and another thing is paying someone to tell that the product is good regardless of his personal opinion.

 

It's a sad reality of today business that most reviewers are paid or supported to tell what the companies want them to tell. People are more benevolent towards negative reviews because most of gamers are fed up of IGN 9 or 10 marks put on every AAA game. People openly mistrust positive reviews because of the real risk of companies paying off these positive marks. Let's not pretend people are being unreasonable on this issue.

[wolfsite]

Every company promote their goods but one thing is asking someone to review it (in the hope they see the merits of your product) and another thing is paying someone to tell that the product is good regardless of his personal opinion.

 

It's a sad reality of today business that most reviewers are paid or supported to tell what the companies want them to tell. People are more benevolent towards negative reviews because most of gamers are fed up of IGN 9 or 10 marks put on every AAA game. People openly mistrust positive reviews because of the real risk of companies paying off these positive marks. Let's not pretend people are being unreasonable on this issue.

 

That's pretty much what I said.... not sure why you just repeated it.

[SolNebula]

That's pretty much what I said.... not sure why you just repeated it.

 

Because the tone of your post was more like in support of EA and its business practices rather than against it. You made it sound like the internet is unreasonable for no clear reason while as I pointed out there are legitimate reasons to be suspicious of positive reviews. In reality I said a different thing.

[wolfsite]

Because the tone of your post was more like in support of EA and its business practices rather than against it. You made it sound like the internet is unreasonable for no clear reason while as I pointed out there are legitimate reasons to be suspicious of positive reviews. In reality I said a different thing.

That is a lot of assumption.  I never implied the Internet is unreasonable, I said you get greater reaction with negativity.  Also nothing I stated supports EA, what I stated was that activity like this is common among all publishers which shows that there is an issue with how promoting products are handled that needs to be corrected since the current setup is coming at the cost of the credibility of reviews.

[SolNebula]

That is a lot of assumption.  I never implied the Internet is unreasonable, I said you get greater reaction with negativity.  Also nothing I stated supports EA, what I stated was that activity like this is common among all publishers which shows that there is an issue with how promoting products are handled that needs to be corrected since the current setup is coming at the cost of the credibility of reviews.

 

My bad then I misinterpreted your post.

[wolfsite]

My bad then I misinterpreted your post.

No worries, can happen to anybody.

[N7Jamaican]

That's what EA gets. If it's a sh*t game, why should he lie and say it's good?

[N7Jamaican]

However, EA probably got his $60 or $70 from him, so I doubt they could care about him breaking the disc. Unless, they sent him a free copy.

[SNascimento]

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People are too sentimental when it comes to marketing and previews/reviews. If they don't agree with them or think something that was said wasn't fufiiled, they go for the "bought off" and "liars" and stuff route too quickly. 

Take Angry Joe for example, which is one review that a lot of people say are honest and is a "real" gamer. When he gave 9 to Dragon Age Inquisition a lot of people was saying he was bought by EA or something.

I suppose that is easier than understand that people have different opinions and sometimes developers can't achieve everything they want for a game.

[AzWarp]

Market me a a 1TB PS4 Andromeda console bundle, that has an N7 logo on it.

 

You mean like this? Looks like it's been done...

 

[SolNebula]

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People are too sentimental when it comes to marketing and previews/reviews. If they don't agree with them or think something that was said wasn't fufiiled, they go for the "bought off" and "liars" and stuff route too quickly. 

Take Angry Joe for example, which is one review that a lot of people say are honest and is a "real" gamer. When he gave 9 to Dragon Age Inquisition a lot of people was saying he was bought by EA or something.

I suppose that is easier than understand that people have different opinions and sometimes developers can't achieve everything they want for a game.

 

In this case it was clearly stated that EA wanted to pay him to tell that the game is good. It's not having different opinions it's buying other people opinions. If we were in a different case other than gaming people used to call that corruption.

[N7Jamaican]

You mean like this? Looks like it's been done...

 

 

Those are ugly. However, if the were to sell a ME PS4 (or XB1 -- preferred), I'm buying it.

[Synthetic Turian]

You mean like this? Looks like it's been done...

 

 

 

Yeah, but that was some random Twitter contest though no?  Plus, those console are very plain an unappealing to me.

 

I'd want it to look more like this: 

 

 

But all black and with a bigger N7 logo, with red/white stripes and a white led.

[Sartoz]

In this case it was clearly stated that EA wanted to pay him to tell that the game is good. It's not having different opinions it's buying other people opinions. If we were in a different case other than gaming people used to call that corruption.

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Fraud comes to mind.