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Should Mass Effect 3 End Game Decisions Matter In Andromeda?


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Synthetic Turian

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BioWare released an interactive comic for PS3 owners, before the trilogy was released. This comic allowed you to choose your path based on end game decisions of Mass Effect 1, which then were transferred to Mass Effect 2.

 

Do you think Andromeda should feature something similar, or completely start fresh, and be all it's own?


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No

It's a new game that has nothing to do with the Shep trilogy.



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It takes place years later after the events of Mass Effect 3. Surely the state of the galaxy has some remnants of Shepard's influence.



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Only if they canonise Refuse for the wailing and gnashing of teeth that would ensue.



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The reason for the shift to Andromeda is almost certainly so that the devs wouldn't have to address the endings to Mass Effect 3, and rehash the whole ending controversy. They'll probably have the Ark set out either before or during the Reaper War, and the crew will no longer be in the Milky Way by the time the Crucible fires.


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I think Andromeda should import decisions from the trilogy up to whatever the battle for Earth was called. Because that's the point were things get difficult to fold back into a manageable narrative without resorting to cop outs which defeat the purpose of having the choice. 

 

As for the means of importing, I think interactive stories which catch up new players will likely be an exercise in exposing how convoluted yet not actually important most of ME's plot was. So I think new players would be better off with a default state, but some kind of editor should be included for returning players who don't have the world state they want. 


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For writing purposes it should be fresh and be it's own game.  The one major disadvantage to importing decisions is that it can limit the writers somewhat with what happens in future games as they have to make sure an event has enough outcomes for a decision in the previous game.  By starting fresh they can have more creative freedom in how the story is woven.

 


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I also think they should start fresh. Lets not have a repeat of what lead up the be, quite possibly the most disappointing ending"s" of a video game trilogy of all time.  -_-


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The reason for the shift to Andromeda is almost certainly so that the devs wouldn't have to address the endings to Mass Effect 3, and rehash the whole ending controversy. They'll probably have the Ark set out either before or during the Reaper War, and the crew will no longer be in the Milky Way by the time the Crucible fires.

This. This is so obvious it is almost painful to watch people not grasp how obvious it is.

OP, they are moving to Andromeda to avoid thr ME3 endings.

Now, do I think they *should* have made this decision? I realize that wasn't actually your question, but yes, I do. They screwed up ME3 so bad that there really wasn't a reasonable choice to continuing in the Milky Way without choosing a canon ending or homogenizing the endings.
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If the Ark left the galaxy before the end of ME3, then the end of ME3 can't matter.

All they need is a lack of intergalactic communication and the end of ME3 never needs to be mentioned.
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They left the milky way for a reason.

Also, depending on when the ark is going to be deployed (before/during/after the events of ME3), the passengers might not even have an idea of which ending happened back in MW and have nothing to do with it, thus making it irrelevant.

It'd be nice to see some references to other choices you've made in the trilogy, but I don't think it's necessary either. I'm not against a completely blank slate (though no retcons please!).

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No. 

 

If you are going to flee to another galaxy from the Reapers, all information about the Ark would surly be destroyed after launch and all communications will be severed. The orders would likely be: Dont look back and dont come back. If Earth tries to contact you, assume that they are indoctrinated Reaper thralls.


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Wouldn't be entirely possible for the Reapers, to in fact, still exist?

 

What about the Leviathans?

 

I doubt they're existence is limited to the Milky Way galaxy.



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The reason for the shift to Andromeda is almost certainly so that the devs wouldn't have to address the endings to Mass Effect 3, and rehash the whole ending controversy. They'll probably have the Ark set out either before or during the Reaper War, and the crew will no longer be in the Milky Way by the time the Crucible fires.

 

Agreed 100%.



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The endings to ME3 are like the chains and cash boxes carried around by Jacob Marley.


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I think Ark left before endings so in that sense I don't think they should matter. That would be for the best, just imagine how BW is supposed to write ME:A where every can be Organic-Synthetic mess or how they could show how Shepard is leader of reaper army. It's better just not know what is happening in Milky Way ^^;



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No. I'd rather the crew in Andromeda have no idea about what happened.

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Yes, the events of the Shepard Trilogy, from the first choice in Mass Effect 1 to the last choice in Mass Effect 3, should matter in Mass Effect: Andromeda and future Mass Effect titles. 



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Yes, the events of the Shepard Trilogy, from the first choice in Mass Effect 1 to the last choice in Mass Effect 3, should matter in Mass Effect: Andromeda and future Mass Effect titles. 

 

How woud you see that happening? I mean the longer a decision is carried on by games, the less impactful it can be. It already happened several times in the trilogy, and neither of them were that big as the ending of ME3.

 

In a perfect world it would be awesome if they could do that, but I don't see how they could carry on with ME3's ending without homogenization.



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Yes, the events of the Shepard Trilogy, from the first choice in Mass Effect 1 to the last choice in Mass Effect 3, should matter in Mass Effect: Andromeda and future Mass Effect titles.


Gamer entitlement strikes again.

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Unless they make the end choice not matter in some ridiculous way -- or pick an ending and go full steam ahead -- I just don't see how it could work without putting more effort into it than it's worth. I like that much will be familiar but we'll have new planets, new enemies, new conflicts, new lore.

and Liara

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How woud you see that happening? I mean the longer a decision is carried on by games, the less impactful it can be. It already happened several times in the trilogy, and neither of them were that big as the ending of ME3.

 

In a perfect world it would be awesome if they could do that, but I don't see how they could carry on with ME3's ending without homogenization.

Well, with them going to Andromeda only a few choices we made would be relevant, and even having dialogue slightly change is still worth it in my opinion because it makes you feel like you helped shape the world, which is a feeling Bioware says they want their players to have. 

 

Gamer entitlement strikes again.

Bioware made a huge selling point about how "our choices matter", so thinking they should stick to what they said is entitlement? Plus this topic is asking people their opinion. There is no entitlement in my post. 



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Well, with them going to Andromeda only a few choices we made would be relevant, and even having dialogue slightly change is still worth it in my opinion because it makes you feel like you helped shape the world, which is a feeling Bioware says they want their players to have. 

 

Ah, I see. So you mean references? That I could get on board with.



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Well, with them going to Andromeda only a few choices we made would be relevant, and even having dialogue slightly change is still worth it in my opinion because it makes you feel like you helped shape the world, which is a feeling Bioware says they want their players to have. 

 

Bioware made a huge selling point about how "our choices matter", so thinking they should stick to what they said is entitlement? Plus this topic is asking people their opinion. There is no entitlement in my post. 

 

They never said our choices will be relevant to all future games the longest I ever saw them commit was to the first trilogy and even that seems to be reading deeper into what they said. We don't even know the story that BioWare is telling with Andromeda and with how far they are trying to distance themselves from the first three games I could see them nullifying all choices from the first three games ASAP if they tried to mention them because they are trying for a clean slate.


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No. It's why they shifted galaxies in the first place.