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[Chealec]

Shepard was as much machine as man - yes, it took Darth Vadar to save the galaxy.

 

 

Refuse #1 - maybe some less stupid, fractious species will evolve next time around.

[Vortex13]

The illusion of the Mass Effect Milky Way galaxy map lies in the mass relays, where some of them take you acroos the entire galaxy. That map does not show that the whole Milky Way is explored and settled, it simply shows that outposts and colonies are scattered around, where ever the Mass relays go. And many of them are unmapped or undiscovered. As a reminder, less that 0,5 percent of the milky way galaxy was still unexplored.

 

In humanitys space there it does not mean that humanity controls 5th of the galaxy, it simply means most of our colonies are centered on that section of galaxy, which humanity had couple of dozens of worlds it had conquered i guess. The border size means nothing, likely asari and turians had 10 times the total number of colonies in their respected spaces.

 

But were going to andromeda now, so what the hell does it matter. And yes, the explorable space is way smaller in size, tough it might be larger in the number of visitable worlds(what they are promising at least). They better not be empty pallet change wastelands with same buildings in them like in a certain game...

 

And concerning the takeover of andromeda, hold ur horses there conquistadors. This is not like going to the new world from spain. We dont know how many civilizations there are, what kind of technological or power level they have and we dont have reinforcements coming... at all. So its terra incognita with very small explorative group. Id stay on my toes in there and not step on others .

 

 

I get that less than one percent of the Milky Way has been explored, but having us zip around the galactic disk all willy nilly made the whole thing feel smaller. If we can cross the 100,000 light years from one side of the galaxy to the other in an instant how are we supposed to feel the immense vastness of the distances involved? You can't really blame the uneducated layman when they look at the galaxy map and say: "The Milky Way is boring, we've seen everything already." when the galaxy is sectioned off into massive chunks.

 

This also led; in a very small part granted; to the Reapers being elevated to 'godmode' status (IMO). Obviously you will need a fleet of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of ships to cover every single star system because the Milky Way has been reduced in scope and we need a villain that can feel threatening to a society that has colonies on opposite sides of the galaxy. If all of charted space was condensed, like the Traveller setting, to an extremely small section of the overall galaxy then we wouldn't have needed to exponentially increase the stakes of the narrative, because society would have had a sea of the unknown surrounding them.

 

Feeling small in the overall scheme of things is a really effective way to foster a fear of the unknown, as well as keep a villain threatening without having to up the ante by an order of magnitude every single time.

[God]

Shepard was as much machine as man - yes, it took Darth Vadar to save the galaxy.

 

 

Refuse #1 - maybe some less stupid, fractious species will evolve next time around.

 

Still, he was a human at his core, and the augmented/machine part of his biology was built by humans.

 

So yep. Humans saved the galaxy. 

[Chealec]

Still, he was a human at his core, and the augmented/machine part of his biology was built by humans.

 

So yep. Humans saved the galaxy. 

 

Refuse #1 ... no they didn't

[KainD]

The only species that I get to play is a human => The character that I play saves the galaxy => A human saves the galaxy, therefore humans are the best. 

 

Flawless logic.  

[Seboist]

The only species that I get to play is a human => The character that I play saves the galaxy => A human saves the galaxy, therefore humans are the best. 

 

Flawless logic.  

 

Humans are the best since they have the best racial stock in the galaxy for it's genetic diversity. That's why the Reapers deemed us as the only race suitable for ascension and preservation.

[Berta]

Humans are the best since they have the best racial stock in the galaxy for it's genetic diversity. That's why the Reapers deemed us as the only race suitable for ascension and preservation.

 

We might as well just say machines are the master race then seeing as i could turn myself into a geth prime if i asked nicely. And shoot rockets, assume direct control, and all that. 

[Ahglock]

We might as well just say machines are the master race then seeing as i could turn myself into a geth prime if i asked nicely. And shoot rockets, assume direct control, and all that.

That was the reaper plot line. They are better than organics and will eventually out evolve you then kill organics therefore we kill everyone before they reach that tech point.

But out of like real people and not talking toasters. Humanity#1. People with billions of years of judging this stuff deemed it so in setting.

Side note, I have no problem with humanities Ascension. One, humanity #1. Two, stranger crap has happened in history.

[rapscallioness]

It depends on what we find there. If the place is already an established society, or an alliance of species, they may view all the MW explorers as a bunch of filthy drifters. Up to no good. We will be lumped together. It will not be Earth clan, or Thessia clan, or Tuchanka clan. We will be the MW clan, or some quaint little derogatory label the Andromeda species' put on us.

 

I would imagine that there will be some advanced races, some more primitive. Wars that have happened and alliances. How they view these MW rats drifting in and trying to get in on their resources, I don't know.

 

Or they could just look at us and see dinner....heh.

[German Soldier]

And what accomplishments do the other species have?

If you are referring to the others species(both vegetables and animals) of earth,well they didn't destroyed themselves in 4 billions of years,i don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct.

[themikefest]

If you are referring to the others species(both vegetables and animals) of earth,well they didn't destroyed themselves in 4 billions of years,i don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct.

Since you believe I was referring to vegetables and animals,  how about mentioning what accomplishments the turians, salarians, asari, drell, elcor etc accomplished?

[Vespervin]

'I don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct'.

 

What?

 

Edit: @Below - Ah, that makes sense now.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

'I don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct'.

 

What?

Maybe they meant we won't reach the year 3000 AD.

[Eelectrica]

If you are referring to the others species(both vegetables and animals) of earth,well they didn't destroyed themselves in 4 billions of years,i don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct.

Unfortunately that's pretty much how I see too.

I think that's why Bio are going the humans.#1 approach. With games being a way of escaping reality and humans somehow not destroying ourselves and leading an expedition into another galaxy doesn't get much further than reality.

[German Soldier]

Since you believe I was referring to vegetables and animals,  how about mentioning what accomplishments the turians, salarians, asari, drell, elcor etc accomplished?

Ok comment was related to ME,sorry but i just kinda believe that the dev are more biased towards the others races,as silly as may seem humans is always at first place for the writers,same thing happen for the DA franchise.

This seem to be a common thought among writers and developers as in fact there are few works with others races being better than humans (like the super elves of Lotr)

Still there can be other races in MEA that would reveal to be better than humans in terms of accomplishment,since the universe is pretty big i doubt that the writers would not put another interesting race.

 

Unfortunately that's pretty much how I see too.

I think that's why Bio are going the humans.#1 approach. With games being a way of escaping reality and humans somehow not destroying ourselves and leading an expedition into another galaxy doesn't get much further than reality.

Yup an inconvenient smokescreen of today's ficions.we are the best with our history and dilemmas eccc... until... extinction...

[Wulfram]

Ya know something?  Never once in the entire series did you ever see an asari child whose mother had chosen a human mate.  We only heard about it, briefly, from the one dating a krogan (Charr, for some reason I can remember his name, but can't remember hers) in ME2.  Hmmmmmm.  Bet that we're gonna have a squadmate that's an asari that has had a human parent.
 
EDIT :  And no, I'm not talking about Shepard and Liara.

Well, without a big time jump any such child would be considered very young in Asari terms. I mean, Liara is young and she was born 80 years before first contact

[In Exile]

If you are referring to the others species(both vegetables and animals) of earth,well they didn't destroyed themselves in 4 billions of years,i don't think that humanity will even reach the 3000 without being all of us extinct.

As it turns out, the vast, vast majority of all species that ever existed on this planet are extinct. They're not very good at it. And there are other species that most certainly killed themselves off via climate change they caused.

[Vortex13]

As it turns out, the vast, vast majority of all species that ever existed on this planet are extinct. They're not very good at it. And there are other species that most certainly killed themselves off via climate change they caused.

 

 

Yeah the "Humans are special" trope works its way into the real world too.

 

As if we are the only special snowflake that can effect the planet. Heck, there are non-senient organisms that have been doing it for way longer than us, and have caused far more changes than we ever could. 

[Chealec]

Yeah the "Humans are special" trope works its way into the real world too.

 

As if we are the only special snowflake that can effect the planet. Heck, there are non-senient organisms that have been doing it for way longer than us, and have caused far more changes than we ever could. 

 

Plants are a pretty big candidate for that one ... oxygenising the atmosphere, pfff, what were they thinking?!

[Vortex13]

Plants are a pretty big candidate for that one ... oxygenising the atmosphere, pfff, what were they thinking?!

 

 

Exactly.

 

Screw Cerberus and human dominance, its the trees you should be following. 

[In Exile]

Yeah the "Humans are special" trope works its way into the real world too.

As if we are the only special snowflake that can effect the planet. Heck, there are non-senient organisms that have been doing it for way longer than us, and have caused far more changes than we ever could.

I totally agree. In fact, I was tempted to quote that trope exactly for how our environmental effects are seen. Not that we shouldn't act on it - just that this seeing our efforts as so uniquely destructive is the same trope.

[Akiza]

As it turns out, the vast, vast majority of all species that ever existed on this planet are extinct. They're not very good at it. And there are other species that most certainly killed themselves off via climate change they caused.

They are extinct but they existed more or less for a relevant period of time,i honestly don't see 

 

Plants are a pretty big candidate for that one ... oxygenising the atmosphere, pfff, what were they thinking?!

Give life to so many species,how dare they!

 humans  living for other millions of years on this earth.

[Chealec]

Give life to so many species,how dare they!

humans  living for other millions of years on this earth.

 

I'm pretty sure it wasn't part of the plants master-plan that their farts should give rise to an animal-friendly atmosphere.

 

And humans, as in modern humans (Homϙ sapiens), have only been kicking around for a couple-of-hundred-thousand years.

[Vortex13]

If this prediction about the sun's output is to believed, we are going to be looking at a 60% drop by the 2030's.

 

All that worrying about human caused climate change, and the sun throws us back into a 'mini' ice age because it had a bad cycle.