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Shepard puts so many people to death - sometimes warcrime-style. His crew is abducted by Collectors to be dissolved to go for construction of a giant robot. He's got aliens on board who'd love to mindf*ck him. He has to fill all the red tape for all the bullets he shoots.

 

But what haunts Shepard in his sleep? A random kid. At this point, I really think Shepard is ripe for therapy.


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Vega is easily the lamest character in the entire trilogy. I'd rather listen to Conrad Verner talk.

 

How early can I kill him off anyway?

 

Lamer than Jacob? Lay off the ryncol, son. 

 

Anyways, only way for him to die is to get low enough EMS so he either dies on the beam run or presumably in the crash, in which case Shepard won't make it out alive no matter what. 



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Lamer than Jacob? Lay off the ryncol, son. 

 

Anyways, only way for him to die is to get low enough EMS for him to die on the beam run, in which case Shepard won't make it out alive no matter what. 

 

Jacob was lame, but Vega was just lame and annoying. I was never annoyed by Jacob.



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I was annoyed by Jacob a few times. Oddly, one of the most annoying things he said was about the Normandy being Shepard's real love. Like, wtf Codpiece McWetsuit. You mean the Cerberus-built facsimile with TIM's voyeur cams all over the place? Maker pls. The battle barks of ME2 didn't do him any favors. 


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I was annoyed by Jacob a few times. Oddly, one of the most annoying things he said was about the Normandy being Shepard's real love. Like, wtf Codpiece McWetsuit. You mean the Cerberus-built facsimile with TIM's voyeur cams all over the place? Maker pls. The battle barks of ME2 didn't do him any favors. 

 

Seriously that sucked. Freaking Jacob. It's like.. the only thing I think my Shep wants to fight for is a sense of normalcy (but also everyone else's too). Like that brief moment before Eden Prime. That's the beginning and also the end goal as far as I'm concerned. Joker warned it'd be a bad mission all along....



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Vega was some serious eye candy. 

 

I tried to hit on Jacob with male Shep but he didn't bite but yeah .. he was pretty lame ... not as bad as his father though. 

 

I would love for my Shepard to be able to retire, ideally with Kaidan working in the Orchard and stuff. He's a mess and needs some healing time, mentally and physically. 

 

My vote still stands, Ash for worst character!



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Blew my mind when I saw the voice actress for Ash.  :ph34r:



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But what haunts Shepard in his sleep? A random kid. At this point, I really think Shepard is ripe for therapy.

 

It makes even less sense considering Shepard can have a history of traumatic events; Sole Survivor Shepard outlives all but one member of their squad because of a sudden thresher maw attack and Colony Shepard lost their family and everything to a batarian slaver attack. The likelihood that they've seen bad things happen to children before is pretty high, in my opinion. Additionally, as you've mentioned, Shepard can also witness half of their crew be dissolved while they are still alive and screaming.

 

There's also this; while I do not think that seeing the death of child would not be traumatic to a lot of people, the way the child dies seems to be a way that Shepard would have witnessed before; the child dies unseen when the shuttle is hit by a Reaper beam. I consider there to be quite a probable chance that Shepard has seen evacuation shuttles shot down before even if it is dependable upon their background.

 

Furthermore, I believe you could imply that Shepard has post-traumatic stress as I think I could do this in the Sole Survivor mission in Mass Effect 1 through the dialogue options. I thought this approach was not only better but also more subtly than how Mass Effect 3 seemed to try to do it with symbolic dreams.

 

Phew, I needed that.
 


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why was the damned catalyst a human child? To get some emotions out of Shepard? 



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why was the damned catalyst a human child? To get some emotions out of Shepard? 

 

It made so little sense, in my opinion, especially if it was trying to take a form that it thought Shepard would be comfortable with. If the dream child is supposed to be the manifestation of Shepard's trauma and the personification of war loss then it'd be silly to assume that form. It might make a bit more sense if it was trying to manipulate Shepard to believe it's "solutions" by pressing on their supposed failure to protect or save to emotionally compromise Shepard so they'd not think too much over or question what it says.

 

I cannot recall; can the catalyst read Shepard's mind because how else does it know about the dream child or the child encountered by Shepard before his death?  It made some sense in the Indoctrination Theory, if I remember it correctly, because Shepard was supposedly indoctrinated and the child was a trick either by the Reapers or by Shepard's mind. If it can read Shepard's mind, when did it?
 



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I was annoyed by Jacob a few times. Oddly, one of the most annoying things he said was about the Normandy being Shepard's real love. Like, wtf Codpiece McWetsuit. You mean the Cerberus-built facsimile with TIM's voyeur cams all over the place? Maker pls. The battle barks of ME2 didn't do him any favors. 

 

Even disregarding that it was built and filled with the Illusive Man's people and devices, the various Shepards I have created tend to have lives outside of their work and while some have an emotional attachment to the Normandy, it's not to a Kirk degree and others consider it just to be just a ship. The Mako was more of a real love to one Shepard than the Normandy was.

 

Codpiece McWetsuit, I laughed harder than I thought I would at that. Thank you.

 



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Kai Lang...so annoying, dumb, and generic.



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Shepard puts so many people to death - sometimes warcrime-style. His crew is abducted by Collectors to be dissolved to go for construction of a giant robot. He's got aliens on board who'd love to mindf*ck him. He has to fill all the red tape for all the bullets he shoots.

 

But what haunts Shepard in his sleep? A random kid. At this point, I really think Shepard is ripe for therapy.

Lol, the guy can shoot half of his friends without a flinch, but random dead kid terrifies the hell out of him. Seriously, I'd like to know who the hell wrote these dream scenes. Unless it was some 3d designer/animator who just didn't want to create any new assets for this.



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Lol, the guy can shoot half of his friends without a flinch, but random dead kid terrifies the hell out of him. Seriously, I'd like to know who the hell wrote these dream scenes. Unless it was some 3d designer/animator who just didn't want to create any new assets for this.

 

Mac Walters, I think. The whole idea seemed to be his.

 

He must have been the one person who played Spacer/War Hero... with a Shep who never experienced troubled thoughts. The rest of us were fine with our roleplaying options before this. :P

 

 

Seriously though.. everything in his hands gets the heavy cinema, autodialog stuff. If only Hudson held him back more. I only know of one instance, in the end, when Hudson told him to cut out a lot of Anderson dialogue.



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The only one who actively annoyed me was the Starchild and the kid at the beginning. Not because of his role in the game, this isn't some ending-complaint post. No, it's just because the kid doing the voice is ****. I mean, I realize that's kind of mean to say about a kid, and that kids generally aren't going to be great at voice acting, but I've heard some do alright. BioWare could have tried a little harder to find a kid who could use sort of natural intonation. Grating.



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Worst? 
 
1. Kai Leng. No I do not care how he was presented outside the game, in supplemental material. Like Plinkett's review of the Star Wars prequels, it should be based on his presence in the game. As Plinkett also said, "Describe the following Star Wars (Mass Effect in this case) character WITHOUT saying what they look like, what kind of costume they wore, or what their profession or role in the movie was. Describe this character to your friends like they ain't never seen Star Wars (Mass Effect)." Good luck doing that with Kai Leng.
 
People like Kai Leng do not exist. Some people want to watch the world burn, buy they are loyal to no one and he was loyal to TIM/Cerberus, and those people may have a messed up past, childhood or something that f'd them up. There are many things that could have been done with the character to make him interesting. They could have made him complex. Example. Past relationships or story arcs with Miranda or Jacob. Him losing a loved one, or a child and TIM using the Lazarus project as enticement for services. If not complex? Consistent. If you want to just make him a "watch the world burn" guy? Have him attack TIM or have no loyalty towards him or go rogue.
 
Kai Leng seems like he was added to the story to appeal to anime fanboys and girls (not that there is anything wrong with anime), sword and all. It seemed like a box on a list of "appeal to as many people as possible" (same reason Star Wars prequels failed) to check off and nothing more. 
 
2. Diana Allers. Should have been Emily Wong. It is almost like the initial script/draft called for Emily Wong and she was put into the game to pander to some game journalist outlet or something... What makes it worse is that we got a message from Emily in ME 2, and I really wanted to talk with her, but that didn't happen. Emily and Shep had a backstory, and it could have been a legitimate romance arc. It could have been REALLY good.
 
3 and nowhere near as bad as 1 and 2 on the list. Liara in ME 1. I hit the spacebar. The fainting is just painful to watch. Liara in ME 2. No complaints and much better done. ME 3? Back to annoying me, with too many scenes, but at least not as bad as ME 1. If I hadn't disliked her so much in the first game, I might have liked the character a lot more in 3. 
 
4. Cortez. Hits on me at a bar when even the slightest bit of asking around, would tell you I am in a relationship already. So apparently he is either really stupid AND takes sex casually, AND has zero respect for my LI, so he is a bad person, yet Bioware wants to paint him as the opposite of unselfish for the rest of the game. Cries to me, when Vega was his best friend and that conversation would have happened while drunk at a bar (we saw they both loved sports and drinking in the Citadel DLC) with his best friend (that is what guys do). Also his best friend was sitting over there doing pullups, ignoring him, listening to the message from his boyfriend (probably not the first time), just so Bioware could force me to have this awkward conversation with someone I barely know, when this guy should have went to see a grief counselor, if he could not even tell his best friend.  Completely unbelievable as a character and a person. Another check on a box for possible buyers. 
 
5. Ashley ME3. Defeatist, when she had no reason to be defeatist. If anything she should have been stronger for "walking through the fire". Every time I entered that room, I was like oh great,"Debbie Downer" time. They kind of fixed her with Citadel DLC where she punches the guy with Shep. Problem? That was DLC.
 
Runner up. Edi in ME3. Seemed like a ridiculous plot device to make us choose Synthesis, with forced paragon acceptance of absurdity. The romance was ridiculous, and Javik was right. Joker needed his head examined. Why it is a runner up? That voice actress has got the greatest voice I have ever heard. I would listen to her name the ingredients of bubblegum on repeat.
 
Vega did not bother me. Why? Cus people like Vega exist. Just because people would not choose him as their best friend did not make him a bad character to me. He was believable. Nope, I never really took him on missions, but I did not hate the character.
 
Starkid? Does not exist. MEHEM mod removes that abomination. That was all a bad dream.

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Yeah Jacob is lame and boring, but he did provide cover fire for Dr. Cole and Shepard making sure both get to the shuttle safely? What were the ME3 squadmates doing?

 

The dreams I don't care about. I just headcannon my Shepard being at a Led Zeppelin concert

 

Kai Leng is pathetic. For a character labeled as an assassin, he failed badly.


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I really hate Kaiden. I wish he would die a horrible death.



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Any aliens who doesn't like Human, which is the true master race in the galaxy.


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Jacob was lame, but Vega was just lame and annoying. I was never annoyed by Jacob.

 

 

Obviously you never romanced him.  Had me smacking my head every time I went in to talk with him.  Other than that though, he's fine.  The one person who bores me to tears in Kaiden.  I don't hate him, it's just good lord.  Snorefest.



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I really hate Kaiden. I wish he would die a horrible death.

 

Play more than a couple of hours into the first game. You'll be pleasantly surprised.


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Star Brat or Kai Leng with Vega a distant 3rd.



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That she offers it even in a friendship arc should be evidence enough it wasn't an asari mating thing.

Unless she is a stealth rapist.



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1. Allers. *sigh* Don't even want to go into that again.

2. Starbrat. The kid's a hallucination. If Harbinger can broadcast a hologram millions of miles across the galaxy, then the Reaper King can manifest a kid. Anderson doesn't see him. "Hey, Shepard, it's this way, why are you talking to a vent? We can't go that way anyway." "I was talking to this kid." "What kid?" Nothing. Ash should clearly see him, she's standing right next to Shepard on the ramp. What's she do? Turns around, goes up the ramp. If she does see him, she doesn't give a ****. Which makes her an even worse character than she is. Nobody sees the kid next to the shuttle, they don't look at him, they don't help him into the shuttle. I thought the one soldier might be turning in his direction, but he just slaps the door with his fist. Conclusion: he doesn't exist. If he wasn't planted there by the Reaper AI, why does the Catalyst look like him? It's a ploy to gain Shepard's sympathy. No es bueno. The dreams? Same deal. Shepard didn't see the kid die any more than he saw Ash/Kaiden die on Virmire and they were squadmates. Shouldn't he/she be dreaming about them? Yeah, yeah, voices. Why should Shepard see the kid instead of Ash/Kaiden then? Shouldn't the kid just be another voice and the people Shepard actually care about be standing there instead? Ugh.

I could probably think of more, but the title of the the thread says "hate." 



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I think Jack describes Jacob the best: "he doesn't know who he is."