Your Most Hated Character In The Mass Effect Series?
#351
Posté 17 décembre 2015 - 07:13
She didn't do what I wanted, from saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, to taking cover when I was trying to sprint.
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#352
Posté 17 décembre 2015 - 07:40
Kai Lang ... maybe I should have read the books, but he just seem like a terrible cliche.... space ninja.
I don't understand his hatred/jealousy over Shepard.
#353
Posté 17 décembre 2015 - 08:37
On the other hand, who knows how that "randomizing genes with other partners genetic information" actually works. Maybe they can store that information in some internal biological datastorage-gland and use it later if for example the partner dies accidentally. Maybe "embracing eternity" with black eyes has a side effect of storing that information.
Lots of maybes, I know.
Sure. My certainty isn't based on proof that asari mating is or isn't done through an Embracing Eternity ritual, but rather that there's no indication that this was the purpose of Liara's gift, and that since there's no indication, it either means Liara was willfully deceiving Shepard about its purpose, or it's simply exactly what she says it is. Given that it doesn't jive with BioWare or Liara's style at all for her to lie to him to squeeze out a mini-Shep after he dies, I think it's logical to take The Gift at face value.
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#354
Posté 17 décembre 2015 - 09:03
If she's romanced, I believe it's more than that. Not requiring you to.
Sexual activity has nothing to do with how asari reproduce. It's a welcome bonus, but not required.
If she was romanced, of course she wouldn't have to "steal" anything. Shepard wants kids too, in that scenario.
Don't agree that it's "just" a callback.
Hardly a fan theory, since Liara is my most hated character in the Mass Effect universe. The writers tried hard to make hers the best romance in the game; unfortunately this leaves gaps if you don't pursue it.
Where's a Heath Ledger Joker meme when I need one? "Say nasty things about (X) and nobody bats an eye; insinuate Liara isn't as nice as she seems, and everyone loses their minds!" Not everyone, obviously, but you get my point.
I guess my thing is that this is probably just a case of a cigar being a cigar. The writing may have plenty of flaws, but this seems like one of those things where it would have to be obvious that they only imbued the character with benign intentions, same as the rest in their goodbyes. I mean, why would they do it? And if they did, why wouldn't they give us some sort of hilarious gotcha, like a slide of a pregnant Liara?
As for the callback, isn't her comment dependent on whether or not Shepard said it? I honestly don't remember.
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#355
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 08:13
why wouldn't they give us some sort of hilarious gotcha, like a slide of a pregnant Liara?
BioWare inserting a joke / gotcha into their oh-so-serious, figure-it-out ending? If they'd done that, Mass Effect 3 might have won Game of the Year! ![]()
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#356
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 08:48
My most hated character is Joker bar none. I hated that snide little tosser since day one, but i enjoyed being able to verbally slap him around in ME2 with renegade dialogue options.
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#357
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 09:21
Kai Lang ... maybe I should have read the books, but he just seem like a terrible cliche.... space ninja.
I don't understand his hatred/jealousy over Shepard.
Because T.I.M. Likes Shepard more that is why. Space Ninja or not, ME3 Kai Leng is poorly written. There is a lot of poorly written elements of ME3
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#358
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 10:03
popular answer would be the council.. Kai Leng.. Khalisah al Jilani
#359
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 10:12
My most hated character is Joker bar none. I hated that snide little tosser since day one, but i enjoyed being able to verbally slap him around in ME2 with renegade dialogue options.
Joker of all people!
#360
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 10:34
My most hated character is Joker bar none. I hated that snide little tosser since day one, but i enjoyed being able to verbally slap him around in ME2 with renegade dialogue options.
huh really? he's like one of my all time favorites that's including playable party members.
#361
Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 10:44
Kai Leng. He seems like a character that was designed by committee to be a "cool" villain. And because of that, he comes off as incredibly lame.
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#362
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 02:38
huh really? he's like one of my all time favorites that's including playable party members.
Yes really, I found him insufferable. He's just plain obnoxious, and just when I thought my view of him couldn't sink lower, they introduce some weird A.I/ship romance in ME3 with EDI. ![]()
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#363
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 02:56
Shepard
She didn't do what I wanted, from saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, to taking cover when I was trying to sprint.
"She goes into cover or she gets the hose again.."
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#364
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 03:00
Kai Leng only existed because Drew Karpyshyn himself made him canon (Mass Effect Retribution, Mass Effect Foundation and even the utter failure Mass Effect Deception). He's good at worldbuilding but can be quite amateruish at individual characterizations. Anderson was poorly managed until ME3, Kahlee Sanders was great in Ascension but got shafted along with Anderson for Kai Leng. He wouldn't existed in ME3 if he wasn't already an existing character. Jacob and Miranda would have make a better antagonist than him.
#365
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 03:07
EDI should have put herself in the KEI-9 unit instead. I'd have liked that.
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#366
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 04:11
Don't forget the Alliance Defense Committee in the beginning of ME3.
Shep: "What's the situation?"
Committee: "We were hoping you could tell us."
Shep: "OK, let me take a stab in the dark. Here goes. An immortal race of sentient starships called the 'Reapers' are about to smack us up one side of this planet and down the other."
Committee: "..."
Shep: "Oh, and it gets better. You see, the first Human Spectre found out that the Reapers were coming THREE YEARS AGO and foiled their first attempt at EXTERMINATING ALL LIFE IN THE GALAXY! However, you idiots (and the other three idiots on the Council) decided to denounce that Spectre as a deranged lunatic, and proceeded to ram you heads up your collective a-!"
Anderson: "SHEPARD!"
Shep: "Oh, sorry. Now where was I? Oh, right! So that Human Spectre set out to find a way to stop the Reapers, and wound up being killed by the Collectors. And the Collectors spent TWO YEARS abducting human colonies while you all hummed and hawed here on Earth. Luckily, the Spectre got the bionic man treatment, courtesy of a guy who definitely has lung cancer and liver failure. He then put together a daring team and took out the Collectors, only to find that they were working for the 'Reapers' and that the 'Reapers' were coming. And so, here we are."
Committee: "What should we do?"
Shep: "Build a time machine and send a note back telling everyone to listen to that Shepard guy."
Committee: "That's it? That's our plan?"
Shep: "... I should go."
Still a better ending than what we originally wound up with.
#367
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 04:14
Kai Leng. He seems like a character that was designed by committee to be a "cool" villain. And because of that, he comes off as incredibly lame.
You want a character to grind your gears and wish him dead. Kai Leng made you wish he wasn't in the game at all.
Great VA though I liked that much.
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#368
Posté 19 décembre 2015 - 08:45
1 - Star Brat
2 - Diana Allers
3 - Udina
4 - Kai Leng
5 - Ashley
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#369
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 12:28
Foundation and Derpception arent DKs creation nor canon. Well Cerbation is but Deception is nixed. Even then Retribution Leng was like Jack Krauser to Shepard's Leon. He wasnt snide, childish or nonsensical in his actions. Drew built him up well til he was assassinated/botched in ME3.Kai Leng only existed because Drew Karpyshyn himself made him canon (Mass Effect Retribution, Mass Effect Foundation and even the utter failure Mass Effect Deception). He's good at worldbuilding but can be quite amateruish at individual characterizations. Anderson was poorly managed until ME3, Kahlee Sanders was great in Ascension but got shafted along with Anderson for Kai Leng. He wouldn't existed in ME3 if he wasn't already an existing character. Jacob and Miranda would have make a better antagonist than him.
#370
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 09:17
Brian the Reaper.
The one responsible for laying down the foundation for the tech that would eventually lead to all species in the Mass Effect universe creating doors that take an eternity to open and lifts that take forever to go anywhere.
I like to imagine he was either the Reaper Destroyer on Rannoch that was hit with an orbital strike from Shepard, or the one on Tuchanka that met Kalros, so all those who've suffered billions of years of insanity-inducing commutes can finally get some much-needed catharsis.
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#371
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 10:20
Foundation and Derpception arent DKs creation nor canon. Well Cerbation is but Deception is nixed. Even then Retribution Leng was like Jack Krauser to Shepard's Leon. He wasnt snide, childish or nonsensical in his actions. Drew built him up well til he was assassinated/botched in ME3.
Even if the side stories aren't completely canons, the characters is. Miranda and Jacob existed because of the comics and the mobile games. Maya Brooks existed because of Mass Effect Foundation. The Omega DLC existed because of Mass Effect Invasion. Kai Leng exist the way Drew Karpyshyn wrote him. He was the exact same imbecile as he was in Retribution and Deception. He screwed trying to stop Grayson and pathetically got himself shot by Anderson. Retribution was canon because Anderson himself said to Shepard about shooting Kai Leng and then at the Cronos Station you found out that Grayson's implants is canon and because of him, The Illusive Man manage to create his Cerberus army in ME3. Because of this, instead of creating an original antagonist, they gave us a preexisting one which is Kai Leng. So yes, I blame Drew for him. He might not get his Dark Energy ending but Bioware gave him Kai Leng.
#372
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 06:03
Brian the Reaper.
The one responsible for laying down the foundation for the tech that would eventually lead to all species in the Mass Effect universe creating doors that take an eternity to open and lifts that take forever to go anywhere.
I like to imagine he was either the Reaper Destroyer on Rannoch that was hit with an orbital strike from Shepard, or the one on Tuchanka that met Kalros, so all those who've suffered billions of years of insanity-inducing commutes can finally get some much-needed catharsis.
I'd much, much rather wait for doors to open and take elevator rides than break continuity with a load screen. I'd also like to be able to actually enter and exit the airlock ala ME1.
It might be moot, though, especially if the new technology allows more background loading.
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#373
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 07:44
Kei Leng. It's like they ripped of some 12-year old's fan fiction. Him and that lame as hell fight scene with Thane on the Citadel stick out from the ME universe as a sore thumb. I mean what the ****** hell was that!?
You have a gun Thane! It fires bullets from a distance Thane! WHY ARE YOU RUNNING TWOARDS HIM THANE!?
THANE!!
YOU MONUMENTAL FISHFACED FUCKNUGGET!
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#374
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 07:53
I'd much, much rather wait for doors to open and take elevator rides than break continuity with a load screen. I'd also like to be able to actually enter and exit the airlock ala ME1.
It might be moot, though, especially if the new technology allows more background loading.
Stand by shore party, decontamination in progress. Logged, the Commanding Officer is aboard. XO Pressly stands relieved.
I loved that little bit ... made me feel so official
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#375
Posté 20 décembre 2015 - 08:00
Stand by shore party, decontamination in progress. Logged, the Commanding Officer is aboard. XO Pressly stands relieved.
I loved that little bit ... made me feel so official
I love that as well, because it also give the ship an appropriately military atmosphere.
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