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Captain Anderson. Ugh, I can't stand him. He's such a cliché mentor character. It seems like he's someone you're supposed to like and that's usually exactly the kind of character I'm going to hate. Same with female characters in ME1. Even if you don't flirt with them everyone's going to assume Shepard and Ashley are involved and Liara always thinks there's something special between you two. It's tiresome and more than little annoying. Captain Anderson's sob story didn't interest me and there was no reason for him to be there with me at the end of ME3. Kind of ruined the ending for me. 

On the contrary, Anderson and Shepard have a long history and relationship that isn't even explored in the trilogy. I didn't have any problem with the character, but I wish he would have had more of a purpose in the trilogy, when he was largely irrelevant in ME2. The reason he came across as a mentor and a father figure was because that's exactly who he was to Shepard. He wasn't just a "cliche."


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On the contrary, Anderson and Shepard have a long history and relationship that isn't even explored in the trilogy. I didn't have any problem with the character, but I wish he would have had more of a purpose in the trilogy, when he was largely irrelevant in ME2. The reason he came across as a mentor and a father figure was because that's exactly who he was to Shepard. He wasn't just a "cliche."

Was this explored in the novels or something?



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Was this explored in the novels or something?

 

Anderson as a character was, but not his relationship with Shepard, I don't think the extra history was explored in any other media that I know of, just referred to implied.

 

I personally only have two characters I actually come to hate in the series.

 

Ashley Williams and Dr. Gavin Archer.

 

I think Kimberly Brooks is a terrific voice actress, I still can't get over her being replaced in Batman Arkham Knight, she is the Oracle to me.

 

And I think she did a good job voicing Ashley. But as a character, she was far too angry and aggressive for me personally, she didn't fit in with everyone else on the Normandy for me, since other than Kaidan the rest of the squad were aliens, or as she calls them 'animals'. Plus I didn't like how Captain Anderson just made her stay on the Normandy. I would have liked a choice, and I would have left her on the Citadel. Never have I had a playthrough where I've saved Ashley, and I can't see myself doing so, since Kaidan is one of my personal faves.

 

Dr. Gavin Archer I hate more.

 

As someone from England, I find it annoying it whenever English accents are done either as uber posh or London cockney. His voice acting was the least of it though. He was just an awful person for me. What he did to David was more than unethical. I was just so shocked by what he had done, I wanted to go full renegade and just have Shepard shoot him. Meeting him again on Gellix, where he was still wracked with guilt did nothing to make me hate him less.


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So called fans that whine and rant in the forums like little children. Or is this limited to the game itself?

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I don't hate characters if they're bad people. I only hate characters if they're meant to be portrayed in a way but comes across as the opposite of the intent.

My pick?

 

Commander ****** Shepard from Mass Effect 3.

 

You're a mary-sue. Stop autodialoguing and stop whining about one loss in a mission while the rest of the world does nothing but praise you all the time you self-absorbed megalomaniac.

 

"Euw neeuw! My imagine is RUINED because I failed the Asari! It's all MY fault! *cries*. The world is going to end BECAUSE OF MEEEE!"


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Was this explored in the novels or something?

 

Not to my knowledge, I mean Retribution had a lot of insights into TIM and Shepard's relationship but the other two didn't really cover Anderson and Shepard.



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Was this explored in the novels or something?

 

I am not aware of this either. The only instance I can remember where we learn anything of Anderson interacting with Shep outside of the games are a few mentionings in the interview snippets that we can find in Anderson's apartment in the Citadel DLC but that's not very substantial either.

 

That said, I do think the dynamic of the two characters works in ME1-3. I don't have a problem with Anderson (when he doesn't tell us that he was born in London).



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I was totally attached to Anderson and I bought the idea of him being a mentor for Shepard ever since he gave up the Normandy's command in ME1 and told me about his near-spectre status that I (Shepard) vindicated for him in a sense.

 

He was such a cool-headed and respectful, professional character. I liked him in ME3 too but I wish the way he was written or his character-voice if you know what I mean had been consistent with his ME1 version. It was very easy to tell Drew wrote him in 1 and 2 but Walters in 3 because he was so clear and articulate in ME1 but in ME3 he's all "Hell, momma, sonuvabutch, **** ****!" Even his voice-direction had changed from Keith David's rather lifted soft-spoken tone to very grunt-like and darker tone in ME3. Same thing happened with Udina who was very hammy and charmingly annoying until he just became some straight-up ihumane "SOB" in ME3.

 

I really wish Drew could've written Udina in ME3 at least. Mac's version of him just did not sit right with me at all. It thought it was extremely distasteful and unceremonious of such a reocurring and longstanding role in the story to just give an excuse to kill him and then make the characters be repulsed and sickened by him afterwards. That was not the Udina I knew in ME1 even if he sometimes did some real ****. Oh, right. "Indoctrination!".

 

I hope Bioware remembers that in ME:A. Need a good reason to make a character an enemy? "MIND CONTROL!" smh



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Some of them was in Citadel DLC with all the datapads. One of them was a chapter about Shepard. 

 

But to me, I like watching my Shepard's nonverbal responses to him. There's a lot of times I observed the way she react around him that was interesting. In ME1, when Udina announced that Anderson will step down, she immediately look at him in distress and he nodded at her reassuringly. In ME2, he refused to look at her in the eye when she revealed that she met Kaidan. In part why I like romancing him was to interpret this scene with her, a woman who had her heart broken and she was accusing him for having a role on keeping them separated. In ME3, I like how my Shepard seemed happy to see him and there's some instances that he acknowledge her relationship with Kaidan, a sideway look, the reassurance that Kaidan would be coming for her. Then in the end when he talk about her settling down and having kids. So, its kinda hard to dislike him since I already insert him in my Shepard's personal narrative.

 

I know how sudden the "father figure" thing seemed pushed to you but for me, FemShep and Anderson already have a preexisting father-daughter sentiment from ME1 which didn't feel awkward and they felt more well-fleshed in ME3. BroShep on the other hand treat Anderson with indifference and coldness when I should feel warmth.


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Some of them was in Citadel DLC with all the datapads. One of them was a chapter about Shepard. 

 

But to me, I like watching my Shepard's nonverbal responses to him. There's a lot of times I observed the way she react around him that was interesting. In ME1, when Udina announced that Anderson will step down, she immediately look at him in distress and he nodded at her reassuringly. In ME2, he refused to look at her in the eye when she revealed that she met Kaidan. In part why I like romancing him was to interpret this scene with her, a woman who had her heart broken and she was accusing him for having a role on keeping them separated. In ME3, I like how my Shepard seemed happy to see him and there's some instances that he acknowledge her relationship with Kaidan, a sideway look, the reassurance that Kaidan would be coming for her. Then in the end when he talk about her settling down and having kids. So, its kinda hard to dislike him since I already insert him in my Shepard's personal narrative.

 

I know how sudden the "father figure" thing seemed pushed to you but for me, FemShep and Anderson already have a preexisting father-daughter sentiment from ME1 which didn't feel awkward and they felt more well-fleshed in ME3. BroShep on the other hand treat Anderson with indifference and coldness when I should feel warmth.

I never really got the impression that Male Shepard was different than Femshep in regards to how they talk or respond to Anderson. I didn't notice any difference in the dialogue aside from the obvious "she" instead of "he" juxtapositions.



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I was totally attached to Anderson and I bought the idea of him being a mentor for Shepard ever since he gave up the Normandy's command in ME1 and told me about his near-spectre status that I (Shepard) vindicated for him in a sense.

He was such a cool-headed and respectful, professional character. I liked him in ME3 too but I wish the way he was written or his character-voice if you know what I mean had been consistent with his ME1 version. It was very easy to tell Drew wrote him in 1 and 2 but Walters in 3 because he was so clear and articulate in ME1 but in ME3 he's all "Hell, momma, sonuvabutch, **** ****!" Even his voice-direction had changed from Keith David's rather lifted soft-spoken tone to very grunt-like and darker tone in ME3. Same thing happened with Udina who was very hammy and charmingly annoying until he just became some straight-up ihumane "SOB" in ME3.

I really wish Drew could've written Udina in ME3 at least. Mac's version of him just did not sit right with me at all. It thought it was extremely distasteful and unceremonious of such a reocurring and longstanding role in the story to just give an excuse to kill him and then make the characters be repulsed and sickened by him afterwards. That was not the Udina I knew in ME1 even if he sometimes did some real ****. Oh, right. "Indoctrination!".

I hope Bioware remembers that in ME:A. Need a good reason to make a character an enemy? "MIND CONTROL!" smh

I agree with you about Anderson, but honestly I was angry that my councilor choice had been ignored, so I was glad to finally get the chance to kill Udina. In fact, what I thought was a shocking change of character was Udina being the voice of reason at the beginning of the game.

I am not aware of this either. The only instance I can remember where we learn anything of Anderson interacting with Shep outside of the games are a few mentionings in the interview snippets that we can find in Anderson's apartment in the Citadel DLC but that's not very substantial either.

That said, I do think the dynamic of the two characters works in ME1-3. I don't have a problem with Anderson (when he doesn't tell us that he was born in London).

"I was born in London..."
*later in the game* "I was born in London, you know."
Shep (not sarcastic): "Really?"

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I always liked Anderson.

 

But then I openly admit by bias towards Keith David as a voice actor means I will like any character he does the voice acting for. 



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Anderson as a character was, but not his relationship with Shepard, I don't think the extra history was explored in any other media that I know of, just referred to implied.

 

I personally only have two characters I actually come to hate in the series.

 

Ashley Williams and Dr. Gavin Archer.

 

I think Kimberly Brooks is a terrific voice actress, I still can't get over her being replaced in Batman Arkham Knight, she is the Oracle to me.

 

And I think she did a good job voicing Ashley. But as a character, she was far too angry and aggressive for me personally, she didn't fit in with everyone else on the Normandy for me, since other than Kaidan the rest of the squad were aliens, or as she calls them 'animals'. Plus I didn't like how Captain Anderson just made her stay on the Normandy. I would have liked a choice, and I would have left her on the Citadel. Never have I had a playthrough where I've saved Ashley, and I can't see myself doing so, since Kaidan is one of my personal faves.

 

Dr. Gavin Archer I hate more.

 

As someone from England, I find it annoying it whenever English accents are done either as uber posh or London cockney. His voice acting was the least of it though. He was just an awful person for me. What he did to David was more than unethical. I was just so shocked by what he had done, I wanted to go full renegade and just have Shepard shoot him. Meeting him again on Gellix, where he was still wracked with guilt did nothing to make me hate him less.

You didn't like Ashley just because she had strong beliefs that were counter to yours?



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You didn't like Ashley just because she had strong beliefs that were counter to yours?

 

Yes.

 

Much the same how other people didn't like Kaidan just because he was boring, or voiced by the same guy who voiced an unpopular character in some other game. People are entitled to like or dislike a character, no matter how small or large their reasoning might be.

 

I personally didn't like or agree with her views on the other species. Even when I never talked to either of Ashley or Liara on the Normandy, Ashley still is rude to Liara in post briefings.

 

I have seen countless arguments for why Ashley thinks the way she does, and how she can be made to be less xenophobic, and that's great. I have no problem with other people liking Ashley, and having her as their favourite character.

 

But I don't. It's just my opinion. And my personal disliking was more than just she had strong beliefs that were counter to mine.

 

I said in my post that I found her far too angry and aggressive, practically shouting at Powell and "Let's Get The Bastards". I understand why she may have felt that, or been angry. I just didn't like it. I also usually play as a soldier, so I had no real use for Ashley in my squad.

 

I always felt James was a sort of replacement for Ashley in the squad in ME3, since he is a soldier as well, but since I liked James, I had no problem.



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Yes.

 

Much the same how other people didn't like Kaidan just because he was boring, or voiced by the same guy who voiced an unpopular character in some other game. People are entitled to like or dislike a character, no matter how small or large their reasoning might be.

 

I personally didn't like or agree with her views on the other species. Even when I never talked to either of Ashley or Liara on the Normandy, Ashley still is rude to Liara in post briefings.

 

I have seen countless arguments for why Ashley thinks the way she does, and how she can be made to be less xenophobic, and that's great. I have no problem with other people liking Ashley, and having her as their favourite character.

 

But I don't. It's just my opinion. And my personal disliking was more than just she had strong beliefs that were counter to mine.

 

I said in my post that I found her far too angry and aggressive, practically shouting at Powell and "Let's Get The Bastards". I understand why she may have felt that, or been angry. I just didn't like it. I also usually play as a soldier, so I had no real use for Ashley in my squad.

 

I always felt James was a sort of replacement for Ashley in the squad in ME3, since he is a soldier as well, but since I liked James, I had no problem.

I just wanted to be sure.



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I always liked Anderson.

 

But then I openly admit by bias towards Keith David as a voice actor means I will like any character he does the voice acting for. 

 

 

Anderson punched out Udina for us. I gotta love him for that.


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Anderson punched out Udina for us. I gotta love him for that.

Only after he had to ask Shepard what he should  do. Can't he decide for himself. Yeah there was an option to let himself decide, but still had to ask Shepard first.



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Indecisiveness is sort of a symptom of the world that revolves around Shepard, so Anderson isn't the only one that suffers from it. 



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Still make's him look like the poor leader that he is. Look at the pathetic plan to get to the beam
 



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Still make's him look like the poor leader that he is. Look at the pathetic plan to get to the beam
 

 

Well, Shepard can be faulted too, since the only thing she can say after seeing this plan is "Oorah!" 


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Well, Shepard can be faulted too, since the only thing she can say after seeing this plan is "Oorah!" 

Unfortunately I was playing femshep's stunt double at the fob. Mine would've told him the plan sucks



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He was just an awful person for me. What he did to David was more than unethical. I was just so shocked by what he had done, I wanted to go full renegade and just have Shepard shoot him. Meeting him again on Gellix, where he was still wracked with guilt did nothing to make me hate him less.

 

 

Truthfully, I wish that allowing Project Overlord to continue actually resulted in there being an effective tool that actually worked against the geth. It would've made the discussions about the geth/quarian argument around here a lot more interesting. 



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Blasto yeah f- that guy.

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Vorcha..Just stop talking so I can shoot you thanks.



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I'm one of those weird folks that have no real disklike for any of the squadmates. The only one that I can say I might not have liked was Miranda in ME2, and even then I liked her more in ME3. I have my favorites, but none that I really even dislike. As for the NPCs I really don't care for...

Throw me into the group of fans that hated Kai Leng. Besides the reasons others have mentioned (damned Villain Sue,) one of my biggest pet peeves in games is when the devs toss in a character from the EU with very little context. I was left outright baffled to see so many NPCs shaking in their boots over the guy. Then when I found out that I would have to read the comics, and even then the depiction of Kai Leng in the game didn't match the EU.

I hated it when Blizzard did it, and I didn't care for it in DA:I. If someone didn't read the EU for that, they wouldn't know why they should care about things like ending the civil war or Michel reuniting with the Empress. I did read the EU, and I was a little disgruntled that there wasn't much for the player in game. Not everyone has the cash to buy the books and comics. Please BW, don't do that again.

The Catalyst of course. It wasn't even the "character" itself, it's more that Shep became brain dead while talking to him. I was warned about him, but even then I wasn't prepared for how rushed and idiotic the whole sequence felt. Also, I loathe the whole, "Beyond your comprehension" excuse. By that point in the game, it felt like a lazy cop-out. Shep had seen everything from sentient plants to a nearly extinct race talking through the body of someone mostly dead, asteroids destroying a relay to coming back from the freaking dead. Please spare me this "You can't understand" crap. C'mon Starjar, admit it. You can't even give a good explanation, so you're playing the mysterious card. Oh and that fire analogy was especially dumb. Man, I was cussing up a blue streak from the time he showed up until the ending slides kicked in.

Allers: For one, Ms. Chobot seems nice enough but she's not a VA and boy, it shows. The character design was awful (can we say Uncanny Valley,) and the dress looked very out of place. I think the worst part is when she says, "Careful Commander. You keep feeding me like this and I'll follow you home." What the hell was the point of that? Shoot, I know this series is sci-fantasy and all, but that was ridiculous. I rather would have had Khalisa on my ship. She was professional and I never felt like having Shep hit her just because she was strict. It also didn't help that Emily Wong was killed off via a real world Tweet, with no reference to her in the series. She just went poof, and instead we got Allers. I'm still debating about kicking her off the ship with the ME3 session I've been doing recently.

Dr. Archer: I'm glad that I got to at least pistol whip the guy. I kinda admired his stupid bravery for pointing a gun at Shep after what s/he saw.

The Asari Councillor: Yeah, I know that the Turian councillor gets the most grief. "Reapers." At least he comes around pretty quickly in ME3, but the asari councillor annoyed me far more. Too busy to try to have a peace summit to save the galaxy, but happy to let Aria onto the Citadel. She left me with the impression that she was far more interested in making sure the Asari look good instead of being one of the freaking leaders of the galaxy.

The random Volus trying to hit on the Asari salesclerk: It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't loop the dialogue every time I had to run past them.

The Salarian Daltrass: "You go betray your friend (or ally) because the krogan are dangerous. Pay no attention to the yahg in the back. It could be a fabrication!" Telling her off is one of the few renegade interrupts I take in ME3.

Just my opinion.
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