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[o Ventus]

Like I said in my edit post, I pointed out all the examples, everything official in the US is like I said, sworn before Christian god or higher power or whatever, I could go on, but honestly, why does it even matter so much here?

 

The thing is I don't even understand why this is controversial, pretty much everyone I know, inside and outside of the US, pretty much regards the USA as a Christian or at least spiritually commited to some kind of sexual chastity. I mean it's in every movie and so on, my mom really likes Pride and Prejudice it's everywhere it's pretty hard not to to notice it...

 

"It's in every movie".

 

Yes, because Michael Bay and his Transformers movies (some of the highest grossing of all time in the United States) are distinctly known for their sexual conservatism.

[o Ventus]

Beats a lot of other places though, like a good sixty percent of the world.

 

So sure, public education may not be all that great, but at least its first world public education.

 

I can never see where the distaste for public schooling comes from. I mean, it's not particularly engaging or of astronomical quality, but it's not bad either. The actual schooling itself is fine enough on its own and it gets the job done, it's the students who either fail or refuse to absorb any of the information and retain it. If anything, I'm more worried about the state of higher education in the United States, because I keep hearing more and more about entitled and spoiled university students holding completely ridiculous protests and sit-ins for utterly retarded reasons like clapping being discriminatory against disabled people.

[Master Warder Z_]

"It's in every movie".

 

Yes, because Michael Bay and his Transformers movies (some of the highest grossing of all time in the United States) are distinctly known for their sexual conservatism.

 

Or the first bit of American Cinema I got my hands on...which involved incest, rape, intense violence, foul language and sexual material of the extreme variety.

 

 

Truly it was a marvel of the era of sexual conservatism known as the 80s

[KainD]

If the story itself speaks, it's a message to the player, and if that's a racist message, for instance, a targeted player will be offended with justification. If it's just characters doing stuff to each other, *in* the story rather than *as* the story, then this is not the case. Not that a story is obliged to be considerate in any case, but I won't call the player oversensitive in the former case if they take exception.

 

A story always ''speaks'', people learn everything from experiences. But it's each persons business to evaluate all the experiences and see what they like and don't like. However that doesn't mean that the message has any intrinsic value. 

[FKA_Servo]

The thing is I don't even understand why this is controversial, pretty much everyone I know, inside and outside of the US, pretty much regards the USA as a Christian or at least spiritually commited to some kind of sexual chastity. I mean it's in every movie and so on, my mom really likes Pride and Prejudice it's everywhere it's pretty hard not to to notice it...

 

I agree that a film based on a two hundred year old British regency novel will likely paint an accurate picture of American culture and society in 2015.

[rapscallioness]

 

omigerd. bsn, plz.

[Thibax]

Bioware

 

You have the rights, the powers to do what you want with your games.

It's your games.

 

Don't let neurotic people give rules to you.

 

If there are people here who are not happy.

They that create their own games with their stories.

Go to work and stop give orders!

[Applepie_Svk]

 

Bioware

 

You have the rights, the powers to do what you want with your games.

It's your games.

 

Don't let neurotic people give rules to you.

 

If there are people here who are not happy.

They that create their own games with their stories.

Go to work and stop give orders!

 

 yeah their game that is paid with your money... lol

[goishen]

Right, but they had to make a game before they could get money.

[Thibax]

 yeah their game that is paid with your money... lol

 

They = unhappy people.

 

Not with my money.

 

Bioware games, my money

 

Neurotic people game, no money

 

[Cyonan]

 

Bioware

 

You have the rights, the powers to do what you want with your games.

It's your games.

 

Don't let neurotic people give rules to you.

 

If there are people here who are not happy.

They that create their own games with their stories.

Go to work and stop give orders!

 

 

Technically they have the powers to do what EA wants with their games =P

 

Although really, while it's their game it is still recommended to pay attention to fan feedback(which doesn't mean do everything we tell them to). Unhappy people generally don't continue buying your games, and if enough people become unhappy then you don't get enough money to keep making your games.

[Applepie_Svk]

They = unhappy people.

 

Not with my money.

 

Bioware games, my money

 

Neurotic people game, no money

 

 

Well if your BioWare manage to antagonize even more fans, they may aswell get into the phase in which your money all alone won´t be enough to pay another game... 

[o Ventus]

Or the first bit of American Cinema I got my hands on...which involved incest, rape, intense violence, foul language and sexual material of the extreme variety.

 

 

Truly it was a marvel of the era of sexual conservatism known as the 80s

 

And the Pacino version is a remake of the 1932 original, which is arguably darker and edgier, despite having little blood (compared to any more modern-day movie, for a 30's piece it was quite gory). The original even had a lot of legal trouble from the censors of the time, but the filmmakers didn't care, they went ahead and made it gritty and real anyway.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Are you guys trying to have a factual discussion with Kefka Asellus112? History has shown that this is pointless. Better do something else instead.

[ThomasBlaine]

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And ((the city elf origin's rape themes)) added what to the game? Conversely, if it was omitted, would you feel the game lacked "something"?

 

It added drama, a great demonstration of cruel but historically realistic power dynamics and a tragic, touching, original and badass beginning to the main adventure. If it had been omitted we wouldn't have known to miss it, but you can say that about everything. If Joker had never existed in the Mass Effect series, would you have felt that it had a wisecracking-pilot-with-glass-bones-who-falls-in-love-with-a-robot-shaped hole in it? Probably not. Does that mean that Joker added nothing to the series? Hell no.

 

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I was under the impression that this game is about exploration, driving the Mako, finding a new home world, finding resources, fighting off enemies, potential battles in a sp-to-mp-to back to-sp play and generally attempt to survive in a hostile cluster. 

 

Why would the writers and Art Director even come up with the idea of  integrating "sensitive topics" into the game?  Yes, it's a story but it is the story of the Pathfinder's journey into becoming the new hero. 

 

In any case, you'd think the new colonists would be vetted for "fitness" for this very crucial mission. I doubt a rape scene or a racist protagonist adds anything of value to the game's primary mission.

 

Well, as it is an RPG you'll most likely have to talk to someone at some point too. Hopefully someone with a personality and circumstances you can relate to. Which means drama and characters and dynamics that draw on the human experience to tell awesome stories in the game. The human experience tends to include at lest some "sensitive" things, and implementing those in games make them strike closer to the heart.

 

Lies, cold pragmatism, betrayal, war, death and heartbreak are all things a lot of people find offensive and/or too close on some level, but would Mass Effect 3 not have been a little less awesome without the opportunity of having to tragically gun your friend and longstanding comrade Wrex down because he couldn't live with you lying and sabotaging his violent and unstable species to save the rest of the galaxy? Issues like rape can work the same way. They obviously don't HAVE to feature in a game, but if they're handled well and add to the story and the atmosphere the developers want to create then including them makes the game all the more authentic.

 

On an unrelated note, I'm pretty sure more soldiers and ex-soldiers than rape victims play Mass Effect, and I don't hear anyone suggesting that all violence be cut out for fear of offending anyone with PTSD.

[Synthetic Turian]

Spicy Turian soup, served raw with a hint of lemon.

[Erstus]

So pointing out that for example that Donald Trump's recent speeches have a very authoritative racist and fascist tone, or showing respect to minorities and victims of violent crime. or speaking truth to power is political correctness?

I would say that real SJWs are closest thing that this world has to real superheroes because they actually value life and common decency which makes them extremely moral and intellectually superior.

I would say people like you are morally and intellectually bankrupt. .

Hahahahaha....

I scoff at you

[Iakus]

It added drama, a great demonstration of cruel but historically realistic power dynamics and a tragic, touching, original and badass beginning to the main adventure

 

And it added a dialogue option at Ostagar that leaves Cailan literally speechless 

[Giantdeathrobot]

I can never see where the distaste for public schooling comes from. I mean, it's not particularly engaging or of astronomical quality, but it's not bad either. The actual schooling itself is fine enough on its own and it gets the job done, it's the students who either fail or refuse to absorb any of the information and retain it. If anything, I'm more worried about the state of higher education in the United States, because I keep hearing more and more about entitled and spoiled university students holding completely ridiculous protests and sit-ins for utterly retarded reasons like clapping being discriminatory against disabled people.

 

It's part of the government, thus it is cool to hate it.

[o Ventus]

 

I would say that real SJWs are closest thing that this world has to real superheroes because they actually value life and common decency which makes them extremely moral and intellectually superior.

 

 

Really though guy, 10/10, exquisite trolling. Would order the medium-rare Pepe again.

[N7Jamaican]

Free for all. No topics off limits.

 

When I first played ME1, I was taken back a bit by choosing treatment for a woman's unborn child or leaving it up to chance. But I love that! Controversial stuff! Do it!

[ThomasBlaine]

Free for all. No topics off limits.

 

When I first played ME1, I was taken back a bit by choosing treatment for a woman's unborn child or leaving it up to chance. But I love that! Controversial stuff! Do it!

 

 Yeah, it's especially awesome when things like that are portrayed ambigiously, respecting the player's own logic in the decision instead of making it just a question of which out of two extreme, grandstanding attitudes you want to take.

[Killdren88]

its never enough for them...

never.

So long as their pateron flow with money the more madness they spew.

[Synthetic Turian]

Free for all. No topics off limits.

 

When I first played ME1, I was taken back a bit by choosing treatment for a woman's unborn child or leaving it up to chance. But I love that! Controversial stuff! Do it!

 

Wait what? Did I miss something?

[Iakus]

Wait what? Did I missing something?

 

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