Isn't that what Bioware wanted? Speculation for everyone?
Even with the extended cut, there's still questions left unanswered. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone.
The DLC was intended to strike a balance between giving people more closure/answers. While keeping it within the story that Bioware wanted to tell.
Unfortunately some completely reject the story that Bioware wanted to tell and want everything done their way. Those people were going to be out of luck unfortunately.
Isn't that what Bioware wanted? Speculation for everyone?
Even with the extended cut, there's still questions left unanswered. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone.
They probably shouldn't have been holding that monkey paw while making that wish
The DLC was intended to strike a balance between giving people more closure/answers. While keeping it within the story that Bioware wanted to tell.
Unfortunately some completely reject the story that Bioware wanted to tell and want everything done their way. Those people were going to be out of luck unfortunately.
Why couldn't the dlc explain how Steve got back on the Normandy? They put in the what-the-crap evac scene to explain the squadmate getting back on the Normandy. What about Steve?
What was the purpose of the unknown planet the Normandy is on? And other questions. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone
Why couldn't the dlc explain how Steve got back on the Normandy? They put in the what-the-crap evac scene to explain the squadmate getting back on the Normandy. What about Steve?
What was the purpose of the unknown planet the Normandy is on? And other questions. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone
They wanted to strike a balance, but you wanted more than that. You were going to be left out in the cold unfortunately.
Why couldn't the dlc explain how Steve got back on the Normandy? They put in the what-the-crap evac scene to explain the squadmate getting back on the Normandy. What about Steve?
What was the purpose of the unknown planet the Normandy is on? And other questions. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone
Steve crashed during the initial landing. As a pilot he would have no use in ground combat. He could have easily gotten a ride back to the Normany by a returning shuttle.
Steve crashed during the initial landing.
No kidding. Is there a reason you posted that?
As a pilot he would have no use in ground combat.
What does that have to do with anything?
He could have easily gotten a ride back to the Normany by a returning shuttle.
What returning shuttle? Did anyone know his location? Was he on the Normandy for his holobye?
They wanted to strike a balance, but you wanted more than that. You were going to be left out in the cold unfortunately.
A balance? Yeah right. So they chose only what they wanted to explain and forget the rest? Yeah. Speculation for everyone
They aren't far off on that point.
People don't work because they want to they work because they half to.
The rules changed but the game stays the same.
I'm sorry that not everything is just handed to people. Some of us actually like being contributing members of society.
Lack of clarity? The Extended Cut was meant to clear things up for you if you wanted more clarity.
That's all the clarity they intended to provide regarding the ending. If you needed more, you'll have to figure some things out yourself.
Yes, but it did a poor job. The evac scene was to show how the squadmates got on the Normandy because they didn't think about it in the initial release. But it was silly in its placement. I'm glad they at least added epilogues, even if they weren't as good as the ones in Dragon Age Origins. They also redid the cutscenes of the Relays exploding because they forgot about Arrival initially.
Isn't that what Bioware wanted? Speculation for everyone?
Even with the extended cut, there's still questions left unanswered. Like I posted. Speculation for everyone.
From the "Musings of a screenwriter" in my signature:
"Walters' notes scrawled across loose leaf disappointed me. The ideas are clearly not fleshed out at all, strictly drawing board material, the execution we see in game is indicative of that. " Lots of speculation from everyone" is somewhat repulsive, as if providing an unclear, poorly planned ending that leaves your audience unsatisfied and grasping at straws for answers is somehow good storytelling. It gives me the inclination that the ending really was just for publicity."
Emphasis mine.
Steve crashed during the initial landing. As a pilot he would have no use in ground combat. He could have easily gotten a ride back to the Normany by a returning shuttle.
Shuttles which were busy landing troops and equipment and the Normandy was flying around fighting. But it's not really much sillier than the evac scene, so it's a "reasonable" explanation..
A balance? Yeah right. So they chose only what they wanted to explain and forget the rest? Yeah. Speculation for everyone
You wanted everything explained by the sounds of it.
You wanted everything explained by the sounds of it.
So you can explain everything? How about why the Normandy is in one piece on the unknown planet. after having its thrusters torn from the fuselage instead of being in pieces all over the place with everyone onboard dead?
Joker must be one hell of a pilot. Best one in the alliance fleet.
Joker must be one hell of a pilot. Best one in the alliance fleet.
Right, that's why he was flying into the Collector Ship's beam.
Right, that's why he was flying into the Collector Ship's beam.
Those Thannix Cannons don't have unlimited range you know.
Those Thannix Cannons don't have unlimited range you know.
I mean the first Normandy. Collector Ship only fires in a straight line that is quite easy to dodge.
No kidding. Is there a reason you posted that?
What does that have to do with anything?
What returning shuttle? Did anyone know his location? Was he on the Normandy for his holobye?
Because apparently you missed that part by complaining about how he got back on the Normandy.
Pilots generally only have basic combat training. AKA not the kind of soldiers you want engaging in heavy ground combat unless given no other choice. Which is typically why the military is broken up into branches that specialize in certain parts of an over all military campaign. Again I thought all this should have been rather obvious but I guess not for you.
His holo video gives no hint to his actual location how ever they obviously have a communicator and he isn't at the forward operations base. Considering taking out the AA gun was set up to allow safer (relatively speaking) landing of troops and heavy equipment. A pilot taking a ship out to be helpful at his job of being a pilot makes sense.
That's why he flew the SR1 into the collector beam at the beginning of ME2
You know what I've never thought about that before, but it's started annoying me when I think on it.
Why couldn't Joker have just flown 'down', it's not as if there was anything to hit.
Right, that's why he was flying into the Collector Ship's beam.
Yea don't see it.
Typically you don't want to present a broad side target to an attacking ship makes it easier to hit.
Collector ship was firing from the bottom of the ship and the beam was mobile. Considering the size and shape of the ship it would be extremely stupid to only put a weapon placement on the bottom.
Joker's actions actually make sense. Minimal aspect trying to get away rather then fight. That first hit though staggered the SR-1 and sealed it's fate.
As to the Extended Cut. For me it did enough.
It made each choice feel like more than a colour filter over the ending cinematics, the voice overs really helped in giving the endings a unique feel. Yet it still maintained what Bioware wanted to do with the endings.
Which is the worst thing I can say about the Extended Cut. Why on Earth was this not what the game shipped with? People still may not have liked the endings if they were of this quality originally but there wouldn't have been anywhere near the fuss, people would have at least been able to look at the endings and think "well, at least they put the effort in."
I mean the first Normandy. Collector Ship only fires in a straight line that is quite easy to dodge.
That's fine. You didn't say which one initially. I was confused back there.
Because apparently you missed that part by complaining about how he got back on the Normandy.
Yes I asked how he ended back on the Normandy. I already knew the shuttle crashed.
Pilots generally only have basic combat training. AKA not the kind of soldiers you want engaging in heavy ground combat unless given no other choice. Which is typically why the military is broken up into branches that specialize in certain parts of an over all military campaign. Again I thought all this should have been rather obvious but I guess not for you.
What? What you posted has nothing to do with him ending up back on the Normandy. I thought that would be obvious, but I guess it wasn't for you while you were typing out the above part of your post
His holo video gives no hint to his actual location how ever they obviously have a communicator and he isn't at the forward operations base. Considering taking out the AA gun was set up to allow safer (relatively speaking) landing of troops and heavy equipment. A pilot taking a ship out to be helpful at his job of being a pilot makes sense.
You still didn't answer the question? What returning shuttle? That's what you said. I do agree about not knowing if he's on the Normandy or not.
Its also interesting that all of a sudden that everyone that Shepard can talk to suddenly have a portable QEC.
Yes I asked how he ended back on the Normandy. I already knew the shuttle crashed.
What? What you posted has nothing to do with him ending up back on the Normandy. I thought that would be obvious, but I guess it wasn't for you while you were typing out the above part of your post
You still didn't answer the question? What returning shuttle? That's what you said. I do agree about not knowing if he's on the Normandy or not.
Its also interesting that all of a sudden that everyone that Shepard can talk to suddenly have a portable QEC.
What do shuttle craft usually do once they unload their cargo? Return to the ship to gather more cargo to bring to the front lines again. He is a pilot not a ground fighter. He would by any group he was found by put back in a Kodiak and sent back to the fleet to gather more troops/heavy armor.
I genuinely don't know how much more simpler I can make this.
With the extended cut, what answers are you looking for?
As to the Extended Cut. For me it did enough.
It made each choice feel like more than a colour filter over the ending cinematics, the voice overs really helped in giving the endings a unique feel. Yet it still maintained what Bioware wanted to do with the endings.
Which is the worst thing I can say about the Extended Cut. Why on Earth was this not what the game shipped with? People still may not have liked the endings if they were of this quality originally but there wouldn't have been anywhere near the fuss, people would have at least been able to look at the endings and think "well, at least they put the effort in."
The original ending is what Bioware wanted to do. The extended cut is a compromise between what they wanted to do and what people needed to like it.
The original ending fits perfectly to the structure :
-first, the whole structure (in the macrostructure, the trilogy, and in the microstructure, Mass Effect 3) is more like a spiral (2/3, with an acceleration in the third part, and it goes faster and faster).
-second, Mac walters and casey Hudson talked about the high level of the catalyst scene. This notion is very important to understand the ending. When people refuse the "high level" (I'm not talking about you, I actually don't know what you think about it), it's the whole ending that they refuse. The catalyst scene is supposed to be a higher perception of things, which means that we are no longer in development of basic explanations, that's why the ending is based on implicit and paradoxes. It had to go against our perception of things. And it had to stay on this higher level, not to go back on the human scale of perception, that's why the narration goes higher and higher till it gets to the meta level (the stargazer scene with the idea that the game is a story told by someone).
-third, the writers and developers are not the stupid guys some people here want them to be. They know what breaking a cycle means. The cycle is determinism. But they also know that narration is determinism (when you tell a story you force the audience to follow you. Bioware know that when you give a choice, there is actually no freedom, you force the player to choose a path that was created.). So breaking the cycle is supposed to be creating freedom. But freedom isn't determinism. So when you impose a narration and the player is supposed to be free, there is a contradiction. That's why most of the (good) stories about breaking cycles do not have epilogue (I used snowpiercer and Bloodborne as very good examples). That's why they wanted "speculation for everyone", because they know that the game is a personal experience and the apex is the final choice and the consequences.
That's basically why the original ending had this form. Sure, because it goes against the habit of reading of most people, it created that reaction from a lot of people.
They didn't just copy and paste, and add a color filter to the original endings. That would be oversimplifying things.
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