No, I got your point. I was just clarifying that Arrival and LotSB are stories of Shepard's actions and are not canon if you didn't play them so we're all on the same page. Similarly, Balak will show up and introduce himself if you didn't play BdtS because Shepard never met him. I was also stressing that they only become canon after the game in which they appear.
Leviathan, however, is Shepard specific. Somebody else might have done everything all the way up to finding and meeting Leviathan but, based on what we are shown in the DLC, likely would not have convinced Leviathan and been released. Finally Shepard himself actually matters, rather than Arrival where he is just Commander Shootman.
Says they are Shepard's actions and are not canon if you didn't play them. Cut to ME 3 when those actions still took place with a different group and is considered canon. Not only are you contradicting yourself but you are directly contradicting the game. When you directly contradict what the game says then it really shows you have no ground to stand on.
A New Hope, yes, but certainly not The Empire Strikes Back. That movie immediately put the tension between Han and Leia. If you didn't know Leia kissing Luke was 100% to take a swipe at Han and his comments then there's no hope for you. Luke and Leia being together may have been a contingency plan, but it's not strongly represented anywhere except Leia kissing Luke "for luck."
So Love Triangle is a new concept to you isn't it?
No, not all interpretations are valid, but some can be. Read the beginning of the "this is not a pipe" article in my signature. Determining if an interpretation is valid or invalid is harder, and there's discussion to be had as to what extent it can even be done. It requires a review of why the person interpreted things the way they did and if that matches up with everything else or if it is invalidated by some other part of the work. Such as how there is nothing to suggest segregation is a good thing in LotR. The story requires the crossing of the racial barriers in forming the Fellowship and other alliances.
OH but many are using that logic because then you have to appoint yourself as know it all of the story to claim a valid or invalid interpenetration. LotR actually does a lot while the Fellowship forms friendships the races at large. IE Dwarfs, Elfs, Man, Hobbit are completely separated from each other with little to no interaction outside trade. During the attack by Saruman and Sauron all races only help themselves. In the book there is no elf group that comes to Rohan's need during Helm's Deep. There is no Dwarven or Elvish assistance during the battle for Gondor. And during the march to distract Sauron it was again simply man doing all the world while every other race remained isolated.
Now we know this interpenetration isn't valid because Tolkien himself came out against it. But using your set up it is a valid interpretation of it. Which is why saying interpretations other then what the author said it is about as valid is opening Pandora's Box.
All bears are not a threat to all humans. There is zero chance of me being attacked by bears where I am now. They don't know where I am and don't care. There is no way that they will coAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGH!
You are confusing threat to all humans and can they attack all humans at once. These are two very distinctly different set ups. Bears look at all humans as either food or a possible threat that needs to be eliminated. Put any number of bears in close proximity to any number of humans and 9 out of 10 times it will end with the human either killed or severely injured requiring immediate medical assistance to survive.
The GARDIAN system the Geth use is the same technology everyone else uses. They just use a higher frequency because it's more powerful. Other species have access to the same technology but use lower frequencies because they are easier to maintain. It's a tradeoff that the Geth have chosen one end of rather than the other. The Salarians do the same, using "near UV" frequencies. The Geth just went one step further.
Your claim that the Geth wipe the floor with the Quarians is absolutely false because that doesn't happen until they get Reaper upgrades. Before that, the Quarians were winning, having pushed the Geth back to Rannoch. Once those upgrades are removed, the Quarians go back to winning.
Cooperation is started by the threat of the Reapers, but that is stronger on the side of Organics being able to accept the Geth. However, cooperation is a step beyond simple peace. Talking with Legion in ME2 reveals that the Geth do want to reconcile with the Quarians. I do think that they went too far to the side of "poor innocent Geth were wronged" rather than keep it balanced.
The first part is exactly what I said only repeated back. Geth mastered a technology that organics had but had not yet developed enough to make it practical use. Much like currently with Railguns. They technology exists and can be used but hasn't developed enough for the practical application and deployment of it so it still remains unused.
Quarians were winning because of their secret weapon. Which while it isn't explained all that well in game seems a lot like they were DDoSing the Geth's radar system. Spamming junk data that they couldn't filter out effectively causing them to be "blinded" so to speak. Allowing the Quarians to pick them off at a distance. Once the upgrade hit their processing power got a boost and they were able to deal with the junk data and started wrecking the Quarian's set up badly. True if you kill Legion the Geth get slaughtered. Not only because they lost the upgrade and the moment of confusion afterwards but because they downgrade in processing power from true AI status to really advanced VI status they are also susceptible to the DDoS attack by the Quarians again.
But that doesn't change the fact that they had to literally blind the Geth to start to win. And if the Geth had already evolved past their crippling dependence on one another for intelligence more in like with EDI who is depending on no one else for her intelligence and processing capability the fight would have gone much different. As well talks with Legion also shows they don't have even the basic understanding of organics. Shepard and Legion simply trying to introduce each other comes across like a slap stick comedy effect. And this doesn't change they still firmly feel that only the Geth should be allowed to decide what happens to the Geth. A mentality that doesn't quite fit on the galactic scale of event and things that happen in them.
It's not possible to look at it that way because that situation doesn't exist. But we know that the Reapers actually accelerate the advancement of technology which would include the development of synthetics. Where does the technology left behind help Organics fight Synthetics? Again, the Geth use the same technology as everyone else. Sovereign says they guide organic development down a particular path. We have to assume at that time that this is for the Reapers' benefit. Sovereign describes it as bringing order to the chaos of organic evolution, but the Catalyst says conflict is the chaos.
It was obvious to you because you make assumptions based on what you think about machines that are not presented in the narrative.
Yes it is possible to look at that set up that way because you are out right stating the Catalyst is dead wrong. Meaning to prove that you have to eliminate everything that Catalyst had a hand in doing and look at how the galaxy would be without it. You can not claim the world doesn't need superman because it is a great place while looking at a world in which his actions have made it a better place. To make that claim you need to look at a world that superman never existed in to validate the claim.
Of course Geth use similar but more advanced technology then we use. They started with the same foundation as the rest of the galaxy and have started to build from there. If tomorrow the Asari contacted us and left us all their technology then left we would do the same thing.
You can say it is for the Reaper's benefit but what do they actually benefit from it? Because if it was for their benefit then the Reapers should have never left the scraps behind because it would be far easier to harvest a group that still uses chemical propellant weapons then ones using mass effect based technology. Reapers would have to be serious masochists to find any benefit from advancing the technology of the races they plan to harvest to the point they are capable of fighting back and killing Reapers. It does help the Reaper cause because weapons and counter measures would be developed with it long before Synthetics would. Turning the warring nature of organics into a useful thing to help prevent destruction before the harvest.
Both statements are true. Organic life is chaos and the larger we get the more chaos we can create. When they harvest advance organic life they are bringing order to the chaos we create. That chaos we create is were the conflict between organics and synthetics develop.
No it was obvious to me because it was obvious to me. The entire point of the Reapers have been to safe guard organics from being wiped out by synthetics. That is the only reason they have existed for billions of years. To then try and claim that their statements are not true while looking at the fruits of their labors is asinine. This basic critical thinking skills coming into play.
If the Reapers and their statement and assumptions are wrong then you should be able to remove everything they have set up and still get the same equation. But as soon as you remove the Reapers and their effects on the galaxy suddenly that equation shifts dramatically. There are a ton of factors that we can't bring into the equation like the many different races that existed before in game races. But even showing in game races the effects and actions would drastically ****.
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