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[Iakus]

And the cycles were just something silly and irrational that the Reapers were doing because reasons, and we don't care about the reasons anymore because they're dead... yeah, this could have worked for a lot of us. Since you'd have to swallow a whole bunch of stupidity for the Reapers to lose the war at that point anyway, the senselessness of their whole plan would have been lost in the shuffle.

You have to swallow a lot of stupidity for the Reapers not curb-stomping the galaxy before Shepard ever leaves Earth.  What's a little more?

[Iakus]

Save it for someone else. I see nothing symbolic at all. If that's a problem for you, deal with it.

 

Everyone is Jesus in Purgatory  

[rossler]

Because he was already aware he was as good as dead. Was armed with only a pistol and wanted to make damn sure the Reapers were destroyed.

 

Destroy the Reapers at any cost. That was the mission.

[gothpunkboy89]

He? Mine was a she. And she wasn't aware she was good as dead. Sounds like your Shepard is a wimp.

He/She was as good as dead.

 

Even applying Shepard Logic to the end no way he/she should have survived even the perfect renegade ending.

[Iakus]

He/She was as good as dead.

 

Even applying Shepard Logic to the end no way he/she should have survived even the perfect renegade ending.

 

"Shepard logic" saw the end of a three hundred year old war by yelling a the quarians

The death of a Reaper via worm

Shepard standing a few yards away from a KE strike on another Reaper and surviving.

"Organic energy" spreading peace, love, and dope across the galaxy

Not to mention Shepard logic showed the Reapers not making a beeline for the Citadel while they were still mulching the batarians so all the Council races would be cut off from each other and could be defeated piecemeal.  Like...the batarians!

 

And let's not even go into what ME1 and ME2 had...

 

So, yeah, "Shepard-logic" leaves all sorts of possibilities open.  Up to and including Shepard repeatedly slamming Starbrat on the ground before stomping off muttering "puny god"

[rossler]

So, yeah, "Shepard-logic" leaves all sorts of possibilities open.  Up to and including Shepard repeatedly slamming Starbrat on the ground before stomping off muttering "puny god"

 

If you haven't noticed, Shepard got blasted by a Reaper and shot in the gut as well as the shoulder. In addition to a couple of severed arteries. He's not going to be slamming anything anytime soon.

[themikefest]

He/She was as good as dead.

 

Even applying Shepard Logic to the end no way he/she should have survived even the perfect renegade ending.

If want to believe your Shepard is good as dead, go for it.

 

Why would Shepard believe he/she was good as dead?

 

What is the perfect renegade ending?

[AlanC9]

It occurs to me that you could draw up a useful taxonomy of ME fans by asking them when the series became stupid.

[Reorte]

It occurs to me that you could draw up a useful taxonomy of ME fans by asking them when the series became stupid.

It's had its problems almost from the very start but usually managed to keep me along for the ride (as per your sig). The face-palm moments got more frequent as time went by though. The ME2 explanation for what the Collectors were up to was a pretty big warning flag.

[aoibhealfae]

Well... Shepard wasn't hit by the Harbinger's laser. (Thankfully, I was productive a few months ago)

Spoiler

You don't actually see Shepard being hit by anything. The beam veered away in an angle that was a good distance from Shepard. You only see a bright light and hear a loud explosion. This is very different than the relatively graphic scene where your squadmates was disintegrated in bad EMS ending.

 

Of course, everyone is free to interpret the ending the way they wanted. If you want to believe Shepard, the half-machine almighty goddess, who survived several similar near death experience from Tuchanka AND Rannoch's reaper and suddenly she couldn't even survive this.. .... mmmm... *shrugs*

[themikefest]

Shepard was close enough to the beam to have her/his armor blown off his/her body, but the dead bodies that are seen as Shepard walks to the beam, still have the armor on the body with no damage.

[Mlady]

Same here And I also see Control as symbolic, grabbing the handle to take over.

 

Yes that's exactly what I thought too.

[Iakus]

If you haven't noticed, Shepard got blasted by a Reaper and shot in the gut as well as the shoulder. In addition to a couple of severed arteries. He's not going to be slamming anything anytime soon.

Unless the plot says Shepard should be slamming something.

 

Shepard went from moments from death to walking and talking once the Magic Space Elevator activated, after all.

[themikefest]

If you haven't noticed, Shepard got blasted by a Reaper and shot in the gut as well as the shoulder. In addition to a couple of severed arteries. He's not going to be slamming anything anytime soon.

I would be curious when Shepard got shot in the gut. If anything I would say it was more a piece of sharpnel that lodged in Shepard's stomach. What couple of severed arteries are you referring to?

[rossler]

I would be curious when Shepard got shot in the gut. If anything I would say it was more a piece of sharpnel that lodged in Shepard's stomach. What couple of severed arteries are you referring to?

 

These severed arteries. Both arms.

[themikefest]

These severed arteries. Both arms.

How do you know the arteries in the arms are severed? That scene doesn't prove an artery has been severed

[rossler]

How do you know the arteries in the arms are severed? That scene doesn't prove an artery has been severed

 

Look at the amount of blood on his arms. This isn't like getting a paper cut which would produce around 1 mL of blood

 

Check out some videos on what a severed artery in the arm looks like. It looks the same.

[themikefest]

Look at the amount of blood on his arms. This isn't like getting a paper cut which would produce around 1 mL of blood

So you're just assuming an artery is severed based on that scene? So why didn't Shepard have more blood on his/her arm after waking up from using the beam and walking to the area where the panel is located?

[rossler]

So you're just assuming an artery is severed based on that scene? So why didn't Shepard have more blood on his/her arm after waking up from using the beam and walking to the area where the panel is located?

 

Some of these questions you'll have to answer yourself.

 

I think I'm done here.

[themikefest]

Some of these questions you'll have to answer yourself.

 

I think I'm done here.

 

 

Here's what I say caused the blood on Shepard's left forearm.

 

From the time Shepard gets up, after being shot by Harbinger, to the time he/she see's Anderson, he/she is only shot once. Marauder fired at Shepard grazing his/her shoulder. So Shepard was never shot in the stomach area. It was a piece of shrapnel that was lodged in the stomach area. I would guess the armor prevented anymore damage than what was seen otherwise Shepard would likely be bleeding a lot.

 

When Shepard looks at the forearm and sees the blood, it came from the stomach area. Wasn't that much but enough to know he/she is wounded in that area.

 

If an artery was severed in the arm, Shepard would've had blood covering  the arm from the time he/she gets up after going up the beam until the time Anderson dies. Also if an artery was severed, why wasn't the arm bleeding while shooting at the husks and Marauder? I really doubt Shepard would've made it to the panel where Anderson is with the amount of blood loss from a severed artery. And since no pressure was being applied to the forearm to stop the bleeding and with no medical aid, Shepard would've passed out and eventually die.

[kalikilic]

this thread is bait.

[Dantriges]

Considering that BW also wrote the stuff about the quarian immune system, I doubt that the blood in the cutscene is more than a written directive to the cutscener desginers: "Slap some blood on the arms of the protag, so everyone knows (s)he´s wounded."

 

Anyways, slap on a medigel and call Dr Chakwas tomorrow if it´s not better. Yeah i know the medigel packs are mysteriously gone as is the armor, possible grenades, weapons andpowers after Harbinger´s  precision strike with his redressing beam. Hm, a squidlike entity having a beam that destroys only clothing.

[aoibhealfae]

lol, seriously, if you nicked an artery, you will see blood sputtering and you'll bleed out in matter of seconds. And it look more like venous blood to me. 

[Iakus]

lol, seriously, if you nicked an artery, you will see blood sputtering and you'll bleed out in matter of seconds. And it look more like venous blood to me. 

 

HEck if there was arterial bleeding, Shep would have bled out long before the Catalyst finished yammering about "organic energy" and inevitable conflict

[aoibhealfae]

Shepard wouldn't survive the conduit run or much less... walk.

 

And whenever I accidentally nicked a vein, (...cutting tomatoes and the dull knife slip on my thumb..), its always a bloody mess... you just need to apply pressure to stop the bleeding and it is one of the function of medigel. Kinda wish they put gore animations in Mass Effect like in DA2. Every time you kill something, you get blood all over you. Save us all the trouble dissecting scenes and stuff.