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[Abedsbrother]

Anybody read this?

https://galacticpill...t-3-ending/#3.7

 

I've gone through several stages of emotion regarding the endings. Now I'm grateful BioWare didn't cave to pressure and change them.

[rossler]

I did, back in the day. It was a good read, very interesting. Some parts I agree, others not so much.

[fraggle]

Anybody read this?

https://galacticpill...t-3-ending/#3.7

 

I've gone through several stages of emotion regarding the endings. Now I'm grateful BioWare didn't cave to pressure and change them.

 

Ah yeah, I've read through this couple of months ago. Very good thoughts on the ending.

[Moorningstaar]

Ok,I see you are competent enough to know what you don't want from the ending.Now go ahead and describe me what is the best thought provoking and feelings provoking ending for you!Go on!How the whole thing should have ended according to you?!

Should have read the entire post.  I quite clearly told you how I felt it should have ended, even pointing to specific things in the game that only made sense with that ending.

[Moorningstaar]

Leaving the rest of your post aside -- though there's an awful lot of questionable stuff in it -- this is demonstrably untrue. A leaked script outline from early in development conclusively shows that the ending they planned is the ending we got. Don't take my word for it. The thing's been posted on pastebin for all to see.

Very clever how you try to brush off my entire post without actually saying anything about it except my one admitted conjecture.  Also one google search showed me that this was never confirmed as actual data.  in fact everything I saw on pastebin was simply user posts on their take.  It also took place less than a month before the release of the game (which would be well after the decision to go that way would have been made).  But considering the fantastic writing up to that point I simply find it hard to believe the lead authors were suddenly struck dumb.

[Iakus]

Anybody read this?

https://galacticpill...t-3-ending/#3.7

 

I've gone through several stages of emotion regarding the endings. Now I'm grateful BioWare didn't cave to pressure and change them.

I prefer this.  It closely reflects my own thoughts

 

https://drayfish.wor...ionist-history/

[SofaJockey]

You can't say the ending isn't memorable.

 

Wasn't keen on the original.

I've come to terms with the Extended Cut (Control) as a fitting ending.

[Iakus]

You can't say the ending isn't memorable.

 

They wanted an ending that would be talked about.

 

Be careful what you wish for I don't think the franchise will survive another

[Dantriges]

Anybody read this?

https://galacticpill...t-3-ending/#3.7

 

I've gone through several stages of emotion regarding the endings. Now I'm grateful BioWare didn't cave to pressure and change them.

 

 

Read it, disagree, but it´s too long to go into detail.

 

One tiny thing:

 

The ending is very strongly foreshadowed throughout the whole series, but to see it, you need to be aware of the some of the rather esoteric theories and hypotheses in astrobiology being discussed in the past few years by the likes of Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking.

 

Besides the little thing that a big warship with a gun, that obliterates current day cruisers, smack talking three organics isn´t really foreshadowing, for what we got, you need to be versed in astrobiology discussed by Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking to understand it? Ah yeah ok, put a required reading in there somehwere next time. Sheesh this is silly. It´s a good ending, it just requires that you know very specific knowledge to understand it.  Dunno about other people, I call it not doing the basics, before the ending.

[rossler]

Besides the little thing that a big warship with a gun, that obliterates current day cruisers, smack talking three organics isn´t really foreshadowing, for what wegot, you need to be versed in astrobiology discussed by Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking to understand it? Ah yeah ok, put a required reading in there somehwere next time.

 

You don't *need* to. That guy is just looking at the ending from a different angle. It's just his opinion on the ending.

[Dantriges]

Well, it was his argument, why the ending was good. So this post was my opinion on his opinion and one of the reasons why I disagree. There are more but his blogpost is rather lengthy.

 

Perhaps I should have spelled that out in more detail.

[rossler]

I was referring to the need to know astrobiology in order to understand the ending.

[AlanC9]

It's an awfully feeble story.

And what's going on in low EMS states?

[Dantriges]

I was referring to the need to know astrobiology in order to understand the ending.

 

I am aware of that. I just find the argument interesting. You could more or less scratch the whole rest of the article, because that invalidates everything he brings up in defense of the story. Everything is clear from the beginning in ME 1, if you know astrobiology and are familiar with Hawkings and/or Kaku´s works.  If not, as he poiints out himself, the whole ending gets rather confusing. He mentions it when he tries to describe this whole interpretation of the ending.

 

So the writers were unable to get the necessary basics to their audience for three games. That´s even worse than the assumption that Hudson and Walters got high on substances and hacked the ending in an all nighter.

[rossler]

So the writers were unable to get the necessary basics to their audience for three games. That´s even worse than the assumption that Hudson and Walters got high on substances and hacked the ending in an all nighter.

 

The people on the BSN do not constitute their audience. It is my understanding that this game was catered to a wider audience, not their fanbase.

[oddball_bg]

Anybody read this?

https://galacticpill...t-3-ending/#3.7

 

I've gone through several stages of emotion regarding the endings. Now I'm grateful BioWare didn't cave to pressure and change them.

Although I haven't read it all(just tiny bits) it looks like a very good,profound article and I am sure it shares a lot of things with what I thought and wrote.Thank you very much for this!

[voteDC]

The people on the BSN do not constitute their audience. It is my understanding that this game was catered to a wider audience, not their fanbase.

Here's the thing though, Your fanbase (your regulars to use the term of the trade I am in) are what keep you ticking over in the lean times. Those times where business isn't that good. Those times come to every company.

Now that's not to say you shouldn't seek new business, of course you should, and I know it is a difficult line to straddle but you do need to make sure you keep those regulars.

If you don't and you end up alienating them, when the lean times come, you find you've not got that guaranteed money to fall back on. That money to keep things ticking over.

Somehow I've seen Bioware go from a company that could do no wrong in the eyes of its fans, to one where those same fans are getting attacked by the mainstream gaming media.

[Dantriges]

I was concentrating on the argument of the blog writer, which was more or less people didn´t know the astrobiology scientific basis, which was there since ME 1 and got confused. His opinion, my opinion was, that sounds bad. No idea why someone wants to argue about BSN not being an accurate depiction of the customer base.

[rossler]

Just my opinion on the matter DC. Feel free to disagree.

[CronoDragoon]

I prefer this.  It closely reflects my own thoughts

 

https://drayfish.wor...ionist-history/

 

I remember that guy. He used to spend quite a bit of time passive-aggressively berating anyone who said they liked the ending with his "Oh no, it's fine, it just means you like genocide!" nonsense. It was somehow more annoying than Auld Wolf's blatant disses.

[Iakus]

I remember that guy. He used to spend quite a bit of time passive-aggressively berating anyone who said they liked the ending with his "Oh no, it's fine, it just means you like genocide!" nonsense. It was somehow more annoying than Auld Wolf's blatant disses.

Not possible.

 

But good job attacking the writer rather than the post, anyway.

[Bardox9]

I liked the ending. I utterly refuse to install any of the modded endings. I have my problems with the ending like most do of course. I'm still an IT guy, BUT I think the ending of ME3 was epic.

[rossler]

But considering the fantastic writing up to that point I simply find it hard to believe the lead authors were suddenly struck dumb.

 

I don't either.

[CronoDragoon]

Not possible.

 
Auld Wulf or Wolf or whatever was always more entertaining than annoying. You couldn't really take him seriously. He was basically Mecha-David.
 

But good job attacking the writer rather than the post, anyway.

Why would I need to attack the post? I didn't sign a contract to either defend or attack his arguments before making my post.

[voteDC]

Just my opinion on the matter DC. Feel free to disagree.

Always have done =)

Like I said I just find it odd that Bioware have gone from a company that can do no wrong to one that caused people to want to send them cupcakes.

 

I liked the ending. I utterly refuse to install any of the modded endings. I have my problems with the ending like most do of course. I'm still an IT guy, BUT I think the ending of ME3 was epic.

I love the ending to the Harry Potter series. It's great that a story can end with everything turning out OK for the hero, which actually makes a pleasant change these days.

Yet I've read fanfiction where things don't turn out so well, where Harry stays dead and Neville has to take up the mantle of chosen one. These were really fun stories, and you know what? They didn't take away from what JK Rowling created.

What's this to do with Mass Effect? Simple, I just don't see why you would refuse to try a fan made ending just because you like the official ones. The modded endings are fanfiction, they don't take away from what Bioware created, they are just alternate takes on what could have happened had events gone a different way.

Most of the ending mods out there can now be installed as DLC, meaning if you don't like them then you can just delete the folder and be done with them.