In the war room, when Thane arrives on the Normandy, Jacob the ethical terrorist who works for the bad guys but says "that doen't make me a bad guy does it?", complains about not trusting Thane. Shepard gets 2 response choices: "Keep an eye on him" or "give him a chance".
The appropriate response should be: "Shut the hell up Jake, you have all the ethics of a strip club bouncer spreading VD to all the dancers." God I wish I could just fire this guy.
And Thane rationalizes that all the deaths he caused wasn't really him. That other people were using his body to assassinate people.
i dont remember the specifics, but jacob has a specific grunge with hired guns... even if he s one. He doesnt feel like one. TIM playing well i guess.
i dont remember the specifics, but jacob has a specific grunge with hired guns... even if he s one. He doesnt feel like one. TIM playing well i guess.
Right on target! If it's getting my emotions stirred, it's good acting.
Jacob also has an obscure awful spin off Mobile game called "Mass effect universe Galaxy"
Jacob is just eye candy and nothing else.
I didn't like him at first because he was a useless squadmate.
His loyalty mission was a laugh though.
He just sits around trying to hit on my shepard.
He is also not very bright and hypocritical.
And he's black.
ignore that last one...
"An assassin's just a precise mercenary."
Yeah, it was silly. Guess we needed more crew drama though.
It wouldn't bother me so much in general if they'd paid off on this - if this had led to Jacob and Thane having a loyalty conflict later on, along the vein of the Miranda-Jack and Tali-Legion scenes. You know, like the cut Mordin-Grunt scene. Instead, though, the loyalty conflicts were restricted to ones involving male Shepard's potential LI's, rather than the whole crew. As it stands, though, this is pretty much a Big Lipped Aligator Moment, an event only tangentially related to anything else going on and dropped immediately after.
"... like the cut Mordin-Grunt scene."
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really?
Intrigued.
i dont remember the specifics, but jacob has a specific grunge with hired guns... even if he s one. He doesnt feel like one. TIM playing well i guess.
He's more of a hired gun with a conscience. I think it's the fact that most hired guns just take whatever jobs they get (would've been interesting to see Jacob and Zaeed clash at least once, but whatever) without caring about the morality of said jobs.
He's more of a hired gun with a conscience. I think it's the fact that most hired guns just take whatever jobs they get (would've been interesting to see Jacob and Zaeed clash at least once, but whatever) without caring about the morality of said jobs.
i m not sure zaed wld take any job for money. he might even have high standard
i m not sure zaed wld take any job for money. he might even have high standard
You don't get to be one of the best mecenaries in the galaxy by having high standards for what jobs you take.
Though, he does charge a lot for his services, but he's really only able to do that due to his reputation.
You don't get to be one of the best mecenaries in the galaxy by having high standards for what jobs you take.
Though, he does charge a lot for his services, but he's really only able to do that due to his reputation.
we haveat least a couple occasion to see he doesnt work for anybody. I might need to read his wikia though
we haveat least a couple occasion to see he doesnt work for anybody. I might need to read his wikia though
tbf, it might not just be because he finds a job to be in poor taste. It could simply be that he feels that the job is bad for business.
As for what happened between him and Cerberus, iirc, there's nothing really stating the specifics of the situation. Though, considering what happened post-ME2, it is possible that TIM tried to hire Zaeed to go after Shep (unlikely, imo, but still possible). Obviously, Zaeed would've rejected the job since he is friends with Shep. But then, this is speculation.
What's the question?
We are talking about how jacob is bland and Black Boring
Jacob is pretty boring and black,He has a boring ass back story and is annoying
I agree completely. When he first told me he left the Alliance and joined Cerberus basically because he felt more useful there, knowing full well and making no excuses for Cerberus' operational history, I wanted to shoot him on the spot.
What really galls me is in his Loyalty mission, all the talk about how good and principled he is and how his father raised him oh so well in spite of everything. As if that same father wouldn't be ashamed to learn that his son happily left the military to work for ruthless terrorists. And all that on top of him potentially making another woman pregnant while his girlfriend is incarcerated and awaiting trial for saving the galaxy again, and then making it out to be her fault for making him wait a few months. Yeah, he's a regular saint.
I don't get how Jacob thinks he is so morally righteous and can be super judgmental, when he works for frigging cerberus. Then if he was romanced he knocks some other chick up. He's the biggest douche around, he just pretends he's not.
When he was bitching about sexy Thane I wanted to punch him.
I don't get how Jacob thinks he is so morally righteous and can be super judgmental, when he works for frigging cerberus. Then if he was romanced he knocks some other chick up. He's the biggest douche around, he just pretends he's not.
When he was bitching aboutsexyThane I wanted to punch him.
And he's black A buttface
Always felt the whole romanced Jacob situation in ME3 was completely out of character and bad writing, myself, precisely because he does seem to believe strongly in personal integrity in ME2. His disgust with his father's actions showed that.
Then I seem to be in the minority here cus I quite liked Jacob on a personality level.
So he clashed with Thane a bit when Thane joined up. So, what? Its not like it led to continual animosity. Jacob was saying he didn't trust people who kill others for a paycheck. Turned out that wasn't quite what Thane was about, ultimately, but he didn't know that at the time. This was their first encounter. Heck, even Garrus admits to reservations about the guy in the Citadel DLC. They were legitimate concerns at the time, imo. And Thane was problematic all on his own with his initial insistence that he had no moral responsibility for the assassinations he carried out. Ultimately, everyone got got over it, though.
Going off on a tangent, why was Dantius killing the workers in her own building? A bit extreme, don't you think?
Going off on a tangent, why was Dantius killing the workers in her own building? A bit extreme, don't you think?
I believe that it's supposed to be indicative of her paranoia getting the better of her - she's been jumping at so many shadows for so long, she now perceives those on her payroll as a threat, either individually or as tools used by her enemies. I mean, that was why she approached Shepard about her sister the slaver in the first place, because she suspected her of using their familial connection to blackmail her.
Always felt the whole romanced Jacob situation in ME3 was completely out of character and bad writing, myself, precisely because he does seem to believe strongly in personal integrity in ME2. His disgust with his father's actions showed that.
Then I seem to be in the minority here cus I quite liked Jacob on a personality level.
So he clashed with Thane a bit when Thane joined up. So, what? Its not like it led to continual animosity. Jacob was saying he didn't trust people who kill others for a paycheck. Turned out that wasn't quite what Thane was about, ultimately, but he didn't know that at the time. This was their first encounter. Heck, even Garrus admits to reservations about the guy in the Citadel DLC. They were legitimate concerns at the time, imo. And Thane was problematic all on his own with his initial insistence that he had no moral responsibility for the assassinations he carried out. Ultimately, everyone got got over it, though.
It's not that he doesn't believe in personal integrity, it's that he doesn't actually seem to have it himself, making him a complete hypocrite. Anyone can point at a guy like his dad and call him a monster, but Jacob is curiously unabashed about turning coat and joining a terrorist cell entirely "because they get things done".
Based on the first few conversations I always thought he was a rather thick soldier who tries very hard to be an honorable man but lacks the grounding and self-awareness to back it up, and constantly holds sermons to reinforce his own self-image. It's hard to respect people like that once you realize how empty their principles are, and the cheating thing was just more confirmation. His concerns about Thane are definitely legitimate, but his self-righteousness doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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