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[Secret Rare]

I opened this new topic since i was accused some weeks ago by certain users to not be allowed to use old topics for the purpose without being marked with the etiquette of necromancer, so here i'm with a post of 2015 november. 

As a player i genuinely believe that those two characters are more than worthy to die both for the personal outrages committed against the protagonists

(Warden and the Inquisitor) and both because they are extremely dangerous.

In order, i want to discuss the motivations as for why i believe that is absolutely indispensable to have this death option for these  two characters,a death option that has to be definitive and final not  like Witch Hunt or Corypheus shenanigans.

 

1. Morrigan

 

I can't help but starting to say that i want her dead absolutely for a series of motivations that are both objectively acceptable and others that come out as a personal grudge (immense hate) between two protagonists and her.

The objectively acceptable motivations that lead my Walden to want her absolutely dead  is the fact that she possess the knowledge to save the archdemons essence from the Grey wardens and she also know secrets of the order that she shouldn't know,she was also blathering of necessary change for people in order to be free, due to her own frustration she was sure what was best for others like one of those crazy blood mages,this is more than enough to want her dead.

Others series of motivations are a personal grudge that  my Warden and my Inquisitor have against her.

First she outright lied to my warden during the Flemeth quest,i asked to her as for why she was sent and she lied and sent my warden which was in good faith to combat against Flemeth,she didn't revealed the truth of the ritual at the time an yet i asked as for why she was sent,she lied,she confess in WH that she lied.

At redcliffe she deserted after that she gave her words to help in combat the blight,first  to Flemeth  later to my warden in person during the search of the first grimoire located into the mage towers,she said that with the grimoire she would have been more useful to me against the blight and yet she didn't maintained those words, i found the grimoire for her and she didn't help in ending the blight,i count this as an heavy betrayal

(i don't care to discuss this point with her fans, to me as well as to many players is a betrayal) of the leader of the group.

She went too far also when she suggested to kill all the parents and the family of my warden (this make the revenge personal) for no factual reason, as well as all those mages in the tower for nothing more than her personal ideologies.

Now now in no realistic scenario my warden would have allowed her to survive into that Dlc and even if her survival would have been better written (because seriously her WH survival is poorly written is the warden who push her into the mirror)

sure my HoF would have continued to hunt her down fo the rest of her life.

 Located her is easly since she wasn't hiding anywhere she was at the imperial court and she was easy to locate.

For my Inquisitor who never cared about the elves and did not respected the temple of Mythal,never performed the rituals and wanted to allow Abelas to destroy the well of sorrow as she was sure that one way or the other she would have find another sources of informations to kill Corypheus or at least his dragon, who was already losing badly at that point.

Morrigan killed the elf and showed great insubordination and later pretended to have the well of sorrow,now i do not know who was who wrote that part of the story but i had a distinct impression that was a choice forced down to my throat,either be a slave or let the shrew to have more power without being allowed to use someone else for the well of sorrow or simply pollute the well in order to not allow Corypheus to gain it.

This was an act of insubordination worthy of death for my Inquisitor, yet she Morrigan was allowed again of plot armor and forced to be in the Altar of Mythal even if she was not the host of the well of sorrow.

As a player i want an option to finish her for good this time,without stupid plot armors that will force my protagonists

(like the Warden in Wh) to let her survive for no other reason than sake into making the story of this foolish npc super mages.

If my warden would have been allowed to finish her Abelas wouldn't have been dead now and the well of FLemeth would have been destroyed.

As a player If killing her is the only way to not have her forced down my throat in subsequent games  in order to create conflictual situations in which she has to obtain more power for story sake....  i want her dead and let us ended by being a writer's pet.

 

 

 

2. Solas

While for this one i have nothing to say in regard of being a writer pets because clearly he isn't since he is a new character and his survival in Trespasser is obvious since he is more powerful than the Inquisitor ,we can't even touch him in Trespasser and so he become a future villain.

But i did consider what he did as a betrayal:lies,manipulation, terrible failure with the Orb and planning to destroy the actual world.

He is dangerous and unless he will not commit what he said that he wanted to do i see no other way to resolve the situation.

If He would not do what he is planning to do i personally will let him go, otherwise there can't be another way to resolve this.

 

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before that someone will start and saying the grammar is not of my taste instead to comment on the topic,i will just ignore those comments since this is the best that i can do with english.)

[Dabrikishaw]

Just going by the point of the topic since I'm too lazy to read right now, Solas' character arc will be wrapped up in the next game so we will get to kill him. Morrigan I don't see coming back either way.

[LightningPoodle]

See, I like Morrigan, so I'm against her being killed off. If there is an option, fine, fare enough. Not everyone likes her. Simply killing her off though, I think would be a bad decision (unless it actually feels natural and in no way forced). She's a cog to the Dragon Age world. Either she lives, and things continue as normal, or she dies, and is replaced by something or someone else who has very much the same purpose.

 

Solas. I don't give two turds about Solas, and I fully expect him to be a character we have to kill anyway. Kill, or convince him to stop, but will take his own life in the process ala Caradin, whom we either had to kill or side with, but he will die regardless.

[Gold Dragon]

If the story calls for it, then yes, they will die gruesome deaths at the hand of the player.  If it doesn't fit the story, (and I DO think Morrigan will return), then plot armor will be re-applied.

 

Solas' story arc will be wrapped up next game.  Since when did "wrapped up" mean "death"?

 

And some hints I've heard about make it seem that Morrigan is the new Flemeth.  If so, expect greater plot armor.

[berelinde]

I don't want to kill Morrigan. Doing so would require her to return, and that is something that has happened far too many times already. I would rather she never appear again. If that means that she gets to retire to Plot Armor Palace on Writer's Pet Island, so be it, as long as she's gone.

 

It's sad. I used to like Morrigan. But over-exposure has soured my opinion of her and I'd really rather she were just gone. I wish the writers would take player fatigue into account more when deciding how many curtain calls a character really needs. 

 

And before anybody accuses me of any kind of gender or orientation bias, I would say the same about any of the DAO crew that might still be kicking around, even my beloved Alistair. It's a little different in his case since the writers allow him to be cranky and petulant more often, which keeps things from getting stale as quickly, but even then, I'm hoping DAI was his last encore. Let the old guard retire, and bring out the new faces.

[Ashagar]

Just going by the point of the topic since I'm too lazy to read right now, Solas' character arc will be wrapped up in the next game so we will get to kill him. Morrigan I don't see coming back either way.

 

I don't think we will get to confront Solas in the next game, I think he will be more the greater scope villain but I don't think a direct confrentation will happen until DA5, its more likely the main event will be either the Qunari making their play to destroy Tevinter and with it the last power capable of stopping them from taking over Thadas or the people beyond the Sea will make a appearance tearing northern Thadas apart trying to get at Solas to stop his plans with the first victims being the Qunari.

 

On Morrigan I agree though we aren't likely going to see her again. Any major character arcs and questions dealing with her are dealt with as it is with about every question in the south other than what happened to all those Harvesters that the Warden released into the deep roads.

[Illegitimus]

I don't think we will get to confront Solas in the next game, I think he will be more the greater scope villain but I don't think a direct confrentation will happen until DA5, its more likely the main event will be either the Qunari making their play to destroy Tevinter and with it the last power capable of stopping them from taking over Thadas 

 

<snort>  Except for all the others.  I'd estimate that Orlais is the most powerful realm in Thedas at this point, not Tevinter and if the rest of Thedas is scared enough to ally with them, I'm quite sure they could do as well as Tevinter ever did.  

[MisterJB]

It's sad. I used to like Morrigan. But over-exposure has soured my opinion of her and I'd really rather she were just gone. I wish the writers would take player fatigue into account more when deciding how many curtain calls a character really needs.

She is in one game and a half and one DLC. How does that reasonably qualify as over-exposure?

 

There are a great many numbers of Dragon Age characters who have been in multiple games, comic books, even an anime movie making them far more deserving of the "writer's pet title."

[MisterJB]

The objectively acceptable

Nope.

Right off the bat I can tell you that objectivity can't be applied to the decision of whether to kill someone. That is why the debate over the death penalty is without end.

 

 

 

she possess the knowledge to save the archdemons essence from the Grey wardens

 

This phrase makes no sense. Do you mean that she has kept the knowledge of how to save the Archdemon's essence from the Grey Wardens.

 

If so, how does this objectively means she should die?

 

 

 

she also know secrets of the order that she shouldn't know

 

 

 

So does he. Does Varel objectively deserve to die?

 

 

 

she was also blathering of necessary change for people in order to be free, due to her own frustration she was sure what was best for others like one of those crazy blood mages,this is more than enough to want her dead.

First of all, having an opinion of how things would be better makes Morrigan no different from 100% of humanity. This does not make someone's death "objectively acceptable".

 

Second, Morrigan does not even perform actions that are harmful to others in order to create what she perceives as a better world unlike people like Anders or Corypheus. You are the one advocating the murder of someone who never even once raises her hand against the Warden or the Inquisitor.

 

 

 

 

First she outright lied to my warden during the Flemeth quest,i asked to her as for why she was sent and she lied and sent my warden which was in good faith to combat against Flemeth,she didn't revealed the truth of the ritual at the time an yet i asked as for why she was sent,she lied,she confess in WH that she lied.

She did not lie to the Warden when she requested his help in killing Flemeth.

The fact that she was aware that she was sent to give birth to a reborn Urthemiel does not necessarely exclude the possibility that she genuinely believed one of Flemeth's reasons for sending her away were so she could prepare her body transfer ritual in peace.

As Dragon Age Inquisition proves, Morrigan genuinely believed Flemeth was going to try to possess her.

 

 

 

 

At redcliffe she deserted after that she gave her words to help in combat the blight,first  to Flemeth  later to my warden in person during the search of the first grimoire located into the mage towers,she said that with the grimoire she would have been more useful to me against the blight and yet she didn't maintained those words i found the grimoire for her she din' help in ending the blight,i count this as an heavy betrayal

(i don't care to discuss this point with her fans, to me as well as to many players is a betrayal)

Yeah, well, when you make a thread on these forums, you are opening the topic for discussion.

So, let us see, by Redcliff, Morrigan had spent around a year, give or take, accompanying the Warden around, from the top of the mountains to the deepest pits, fighting Darkspawn, golems, soldiers, demons, Abominations, etc, never once doing anything to prevent the Warden from taking actions she personally disagreed with and, possibly, even forming her first friendship with or falling in love with Warden and, when she asks him/her for something that she strongly believes in, she is refused.

And you're angry that she walks away? I'm sorry that Morrigan has opinions of her own.

It's not like every other Companion can walk away or even try to kill you. Oh wait, yes they can.

 

And weren't you just arguing that keeping the knowledge of how to save the Archdemon's soul from the Wardens means she should die? If so, why are you not taking her offer?

 

 

 

 

She went too far also when she suggested to kill all the parents and the family of my warden (this make the revenge personal) for no factual reason, as well as all those mages in the tower for nothing more than her personal ideologies.

 

Don't you want to kill her for your personal ideologies?
 

 

 

sure my HoF would have continued to hunt her down fo the rest of her life.

 Located her is easly since she wasn't hiding anywhere she was at the imperial corut and she was easy to locate.

And being protected by the most powerful person in Thedas, the freaking Empress of the most powerful Empire in Thedas.

 

 

For my Inquisitor who never cared about the elves and did not respected the temple of Mythal,never performed the rituals and wanted to allow Abelas to destroy the well of sorrow as she was sure that one way or the other she would have find another sources of informations to kill Corypheus or at least his dragon, who was already losing badly at that point.

Morrigan killed the elf and showed great insubordination and later pretended to have the well of sorrow,now i do not know who was who wrote that part of the story but i had a distinct impression that was a choice forced down to my throat,either be a slave or let the shrew to have more power without being allowed to use someone else for the well of sorrow or simply pollute the well in order to not allow Corypheus to gain it.

This was an act of insubordination worthy of death for my Inquisitor, yet she Morrigan was allowed again of plot armor and forced to be in the Altar of Mythal even if she was not the host of the well of sorrow.

As a player i want an option to finish her for good this time,without stupid plot armors that will force my protagonists

(like the Warden in Wh) to let her survive for no other reason than sake into making the story of this foolish npc super mages.

If my warden would have been allowed to finish her Abelas wouldn't have been dead now and the well of FLemeth would have been destroyed.

 

Ok, so, your Inquisitor wants to destroy the only known source of knowledge on how to defeat Corypheus.

Morrigan wants to save it.

Ergo, she is the one who should die because she did not went along with the plan of destroying the only resource we have and wing it afterwards?

 

Seems to me, Morrigan just saved the world.
 

[Darth Wraith]

I was going to make a lengthy post on this, but MisterJB kindly saved me the effort by making all my points. Thank you, sir.

[Ashagar]

<snort>  Except for all the others.  I'd estimate that Orlais is the most powerful realm in Thedas at this point, not Tevinter and if the rest of Thedas is scared enough to ally with them, I'm quite sure they could do as well as Tevinter ever did.  

 

Excerpt the south has been ravaged by civil wars, the mage Templar war, the breach, the blight and other events for more than ten year period. Its also looks quite likely that Orlais is going to fall back into civil war likely coupled with a major elven uprising and it sounds like the other great power of the South which didn't get ravaged by aforementioned events, Navarra is headed for civil war with a large royal clan but a old king with no direct heir and other nobles families who think the royal family has ruled long enough.

[Wren]

Ironically, these are the two characters whose fates are most bound up with Mythal.  Perhaps ignoring the middlemen and going right for the source should be the option.

[Yaroub]

Seems to me, Morrigan just saved the world.

 

Morrigan FTW  \( ﾟ◡ﾟ)/

 

Spoiler

Don't mind me. I just always wanted to say that.

[nightscrawl]

Right off the bat I can tell you that objectivity can't be applied to the decision of whether to kill someone. That is why the debate over the death penalty is without end.

I am generally not a fan of analogies, particularly when they invoke hot-button issues like this. However -- and this will be my only comment regarding this in this thread -- I will say that one CAN be objectively against the death penalty if emotions aren't involved. I am, and for the SOLE reason that there is too much room for error in the whole process. If we somehow had a flawless legal system that would, without a single iota of a doubt, convict the correct person, and execute that person within a reasonable amount of time (ideally, less than five years), then I might actually be for it. But that is not, and will never be the case, ever, for any country in the entire world. So we may as well do without.

 

And as I said, this is my only remark about this subject.

 

 

To the topic at hand, I just want the whole Solas thing resolved in the next game, and I don't care whether that ends with his death or not. I REALLY don't want it to drag out for another full game. But I don't know how Patrick Weekes, particularly since this is his character, is about this sort of thing. I don't know very much about him, especially since I've never played any of the ME games.

 

As for Morrigan, I honestly would be surprised if she pops up again. Someone above mentioned her fate being bound to Mythal, but that is only if the player allows her to drink. So because this is now a variable choice, and Bioware has shown that they don't incorporate those choices in huge, world altering ways**, I don't really see the well decision, and Morrigan's connection to that, being hugely impactful, especially since Flemeth is canonically dead. We could see Yavana though! Which might be fun.

 

 

 

** Don't get me wrong, I do love importing my world state and all that, and am happy with the variation that we get. But it is true that none of the choices to date have had a hugely significant impact on the following game, regardless of its impact on the world at large.

[Secret Rare]

If the story calls for it, then yes, they will die gruesome deaths at the hand of the player.  If it doesn't fit the story, (and I DO think Morrigan will return), then plot armor will be re-applied.

 

 

I do have the feeling that Morrigan has a chance to return in the franchise and that all in all the death option is the only way to remove her character for good, since apparently each time that she appear is like a warning that there will be a critical situation of which she will try to gain full advantage of herself at the cost of great insubordination(in DAI she was even an advisor under the Inquisitor) .

Truly with her character to me was like a falling spiral,she started good and since the events of the circle of magi/ALienage she fallen too much for my tastes especially in DAI(i do not have any mother Morrigan version).

For Solas after DA4 he will start to become an old character but now he isn't so if by letting him go in DA4 (a redemption path) will also conclude his story arch it would be perfect.

[Aren]

Whenever i hear about supermages like Solas,Morrigan(with the well of sorrow),Corypheus,Architect,archdemons,Evanuris,ecc..,i'm exactly like this

 

The templars order need to improve to the next stage!

[Secret Rare]

I don't want to kill Morrigan. Doing so would require her to return, and that is something that has happened far too many times already. I would rather she never appear again. If that means that she gets to retire to Plot Armor Palace on Writer's Pet Island, so be it, as long as she's gone.

 

It's sad. I used to like Morrigan. But over-exposure has soured my opinion of her and I'd really rather she were just gone. I wish the writers would take player fatigue into account more when deciding how many curtain calls a character really needs. 

 

And before anybody accuses me of any kind of gender or orientation bias, I would say the same about any of the DAO crew that might still be kicking around, even my beloved Alistair. It's a little different in his case since the writers allow him to be cranky and petulant more often, which keeps things from getting stale as quickly, but even then, I'm hoping DAI was his last encore. Let the old guard retire, and bring out the new faces.

I share the sentiment also your post was better elaborated than mine.

But i take into account also the possibility that DAI all in all was just a sort of set to the next stage for her character,see there are too many hints

(The Ogb speech,the designers notes,what Flemeth did in the end)i hope that i'm wrong in this regard and that if the Mythal subplot is necessary it will be someone else to replace her.

But if this would not be the case then the only way is the death option a true one, since apparently those are characters that are beyond of a simple death.

[Aren]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, so, your Inquisitor wants to destroy the only known source of knowledge on how to defeat Corypheus.

Morrigan wants to save it.

Ergo, she is the one who should die because she did not went along with the plan of destroying the only resource we have and wing it afterwards?

 

Seems to me, Morrigan just saved the world.
 

Now,now that's an  exaggeration

Another badly executed quest. Solas states that he believes the Well must be preserved but that he doesn't want Morrigan to do it. But then he flatly refuses you when you ask him to do it - without any explanation why and despite him clearly being the most qualified, regardless of what Morrigan claims. Nobody thinks this reaction odd, considering he makes out like you have suggested something obscene and insulting to him, to the point where he will take genuine offence if you ask again. Its ridiculous, as is the fact that despite being Elven and interested in history, he apparently can only translate certain bits and pieces of the writings, and never mentions any of the stuff that Morrigan claims to have read and left out.

 

You could have destroyed the Well, or at least let Abelas do it - it is even stated that the Well is powering the Eluvian, or rather that its the key to operating it. So you've solving both problems at once. Corypheus arriving is no issue - the scene takes place right before the final showdown when your party is easily a match for him. His army is losing badly because his forces have been so depleted, and your yours have swelled to immense size. Your advisors are brimming with confidence before this mission, because the tide has so heavily turned in your favour.

 

People will always make the 'The Ends justify the means' argument, but the game doesn't support there being any such need at this point. You have beaten Corypheus  this adventure to the Wilds has cost him the last of his forces, and if he hung around the Dragon would likely be slain (you do have all your forces here after all), leaving him vulnerable even if your characters are unaware of that. With the Venatori quitting the field and Grey Wardens lost to him, he is running short of (what are effectively) respawn points in the region. There is simply no need to accept Morrigan's outrageously suspicious arguments and accept this 'But thou Must; logic for an artifact you know nothing about and which you didn't even know existed half an hour ago.

 

Not to mention the less than commendable work ethic of Abelas and his men, who eternally guard the well... until someone powerful is nearly at the thing, when he just says 'Forget this, I'm off to Vegas - you handle the well, person I've just met'..

SO no Morrigan didn't save the world she just wanted the well of sorrow for personal purposes.

 

Up this was also a post from Marshal Morjarty which i personally found to be the always well elaborated on this board.

So pretty much i don't think that the well of sorrow was necessary at all to kill Corypheus,the writers could have come up with something very simple like allow Abelas to destroy the well and then ask to him directly on how to deflect the effective immortality,he was also an high priest of Mythal sure he did know those things.

I didn't find appealing to let Morrigan absorb all those powers just to know one single thing

[Secret Rare]

 

 

 

1 This phrase makes no sense. Do you mean that she has kept the knowledge of how to save the Archdemon's essence from the Grey Wardens.

 

If so, how does this objectively means she should die?

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 So does he. Does Varel objectively deserve to die?

 

 

3First of all, having an opinion of how things would be better makes Morrigan no different from 100% of humanity. This does not make someone's death "objectively acceptable".

 

Second, Morrigan does not even perform actions that are harmful to others in order to create what she perceives as a better world unlike people like Anders or Corypheus. You are the one advocating the murder of someone who never even once raises her hand against the Warden or the Inquisitor.

 

 

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She did not lie to the Warden when she requested his help in killing Flemeth.

The fact that she was aware that she was sent to give birth to a reborn Urthemiel does not necessarely exclude the possibility that she genuinely believed one of Flemeth's reasons for sending her away were so she could prepare her body transfer ritual in peace.

As Dragon Age Inquisition proves, Morrigan genuinely believed Flemeth was going to try to possess her.

 

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Yeah, well, when you make a thread on these forums, you are opening the topic for discussion.

So, let us see, by Redcliff, Morrigan had spent around a year, give or take, accompanying the Warden around, from the top of the mountains to the deepest pits, fighting Darkspawn, golems, soldiers, demons, Abominations, etc, never once doing anything to prevent the Warden from taking actions she personally disagreed with and, possibly, even forming her first friendship with or falling in love with Warden and, when she asks him/her for something that she strongly believes in, she is refused.

And you're angry that she walks away? I'm sorry that Morrigan has opinions of her own.

It's not like every other Companion can walk away or even try to kill you. Oh wait, yes they can.

 

And weren't you just arguing that keeping the knowledge of how to save the Archdemon's soul from the Wardens means she should die? If so, why are you not taking her offer?

 

 

 

 

Don't you want to kill her for your personal ideologies?
 

 

 

And being protected by the most powerful person in Thedas, the freaking Empress of the most powerful Empire in Thedas.

 

 

 

Ok, so, your Inquisitor wants to destroy the only known source of knowledge on how to defeat Corypheus.

Morrigan wants to save it.

Ergo, she is the one who should die because she did not went along with the plan of destroying the only resource we have and wing it afterwards?

 

Seems to me, Morrigan just saved the world.
 

1  nope i meant that she can interfere with the death of the old gods (the others) simply my passing this knowledge forward.

 

 

2 Varel is an affiliate to the Wardens of Amaranthine and of the Warden Commander pretty much a different situation,you don't need to undertake the joining to be considered a GW (Anders is no more a GW even if he undertake the joining) Morrigan isn't in a similar situation.

 

3 Morrigan opinions on WH are pretty much way similar to Solas,she advocate world chaning events while messing with eluvians and also tried to be in full control of an archdemon essence,seem to me that i have more than enough evidence to end the threat that she represent for the world

and yes she actually killed in person Abelas for power,if this isn't "harmufl for others..."

 

4 she lied During FLemeth quest do you want the dialogue branches of the Toolset of DAO?

Warden: "why your mother sent you here if she intend to possess your body?"

Morrigan "I do not know"

it was a lie end of the story.

IN the toolset is acknowledged on Flemeth that she understood that Morrigan lied to the Warden also Morrigan admit in Witch hunt

It doesn't matter what she believed of FLemeth plans, she also lied to the Warden to obtain the result.

Here it seems to me that you're just pretending to defend your LI when she admit this by herslef in the Dlc.

 

5 i don't understand?

When the dark ritual was refused she left, this demonstrate that she inserted herself into the group to obtain the OGB, i do not understand as for why i should not pursue the revenge path which is also something included in WH by the writers a prefectly legit path

Also she did not maintained her words what sh said to my warden when i granted to her the first grimoire into the tower mages

Morrigan: "If you will find this, with this i will be more useful to you"

Did she helepd in Denerim? answer no hence i considered it as a betrayal.

 

(and as i said plot armor allowed her to survive the encounter).

All the others companions are quite predictable in their behaviour,Leliana,Shale,AListair i already knew what they wanted  and what they would have react to some decisions they were not a surprise,Morrigan on the other hand left on the eve of battle because i did not agree to gamble the fate of the word for her sake?

Seriously and you are coming to told to those players that they shouldn't opt for the revenge path and that there is not betrayal,especially after those players helped her?

Just No,you can speak for yourslef for your path not for mine.

 

as for match between ideologies,i only want to kill those who i believe are a threat that must be eliminated.

So far Morrigan possess those qualities to me,for what she tried to do in Redcliffe,or what she did and said in WH and also for what she did to Ablas which is basically murder others for power.

As for the whole "Morrigan saved the world by preserving the well of sorrow i don't agree with that " and i already said why

[kimgoold]

I don't think we will get to confront Solas in the next game, I think he will be more the greater scope villain but I don't think a direct confrentation will happen until DA5, its more likely the main event will be either the Qunari making their play to destroy Tevinter and with it the last power capable of stopping them from taking over Thadas or the people beyond the Sea will make a appearance tearing northern Thadas apart trying to get at Solas to stop his plans with the first victims being the Qunari.

 

On Morrigan I agree though we aren't likely going to see her again. Any major character arcs and questions dealing with her are dealt with as it is with about every question in the south other than what happened to all those Harvesters that the Warden released into the deep roads.

I wondered at that myself, the keep doesn't have anything on Golems of Amgarrak and nothing was mentioned DAI, I think the writers are claiming collective amnesia on this pretty cataclysmic event in the Deep Roads. I believe Morrigan will return as Morrithal (sorry it doesn't work like Flemmythal does it) and Solas himself I don't think will reappear until the 5th or 6th DA but we will battle his agents in DA4. 

[Aren]

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I don't quite understand you OP

 

Solas death may be necessary because he may be considered a danger,unless he will stop to cause damages.

 

But what's the point in requesting Morrigan's death if she is already dead?

Yes i do consider eternal enslavement a form of death,Morrigan does not exist anymore in my games she is just an empty sack for Mythal's will

[Aren]

I wondered at that myself, the keep doesn't have anything on Golems of Amgarrak and nothing was mentioned DAI, I think the writers are claiming collective amnesia on this pretty cataclysmic event in the Deep Roads. I believe Morrigan will return as Morrithal (sorry it doesn't work like Flemmythal does it) and Solas himself I don't think will reappear until the 5th or 6th DA but we will battle his agents in DA4. 

where are all those monsters that the foolish HoF released?

clearly one reached Orsino but the others?

[kimgoold]

 

where are all those monsters that the foolish HoF released?

clearly one reached Orsino but the others?

 

On second thought In DA2 we briefly see the Grey Wardens but they are in great rush to get somewhere (undisclosed) to deal with an issue more dire than an invasion - a harvester army in the deep roads perhaps?.

[German Soldier]

As far as arithmetic is concerned @MisterJb you are very much wrong

(with all the others who supported your statement with a like) since arithmetic is not an opinion:

DAO

WH

The last court

DAI

 

I count it as 3 games and one Dlc

They don't become one and a half just because you said so since she had a relevant screen time in DAI and had a role in The last court which predate DAI that you conveniently forgot

[Akiza]

 

 

 

And being protected by the most powerful person in Thedas, the freaking Empress of the most powerful Empire in Thedas.

 

 

Being protected by the most powerful person in Thedas(exept she is not protected by Celene she only work for her) until i kill and  replace her with Gaspard? What a  ridiculous  argument....

 

The HoF especially if it is a rich prince can hire the best crows of Antiva to kill her or even do it directly,also  may i remind you that if it wasn't for her plot armor she would have been already dead by the HoF hand in both Redclieffe

(where they were forced to watch her leave instead to attack her) and WH since they could had cross the mirror to finish her instead to leave.

We are a little biased uh?