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[Evan_the_mechanic]

I haven't met morrigan yet but no solas would be nice, he's a judgemental jackass, I heard I get to punch him eventually, can't wait

[GoldenGail3]

I haven't met morrigan yet but no solas would be nice, he's a judgemental jackass, I heard I get to punch him eventually, can't wait

You have played DAO I hope?

[German Soldier]

Second, you are underestimating Corypheus. Sure, gameplay wise his fight is easy but lorewise he is exceedingly powerful, being one of the most powerful mages in Tevinter in the pinnacle of its power, having acess to Blight Magic, Ancient Elvhen Magic, Red Lyrium and a thousand years of experience. There is no guarantee your party can defeat him.
Furthermore, his dragon can reach you and aid him a lost faster than your army can.
Finally, he comes dangerously close to tearing down the Veil and destroying the world in the endgame. Without the Well of Sorrows, you have no idea how to kill him and no dragon to help you.

Third, Abelas has already stated that he doesn't care whether you or Corypheus wins. He may be willing to let you partake from the Well if you showed respect to Mythal but that doesn't mean he is going to be giving you information even if he had acess to it which we don't know if he does.
And, before drinking the Well of Sorrows, we don't even know how it can help us. We know it has a power and that it might be used against Corypheus but we don't know it's just a matter of gaining the right intel.

1
Corypheus ass was knocked down by Hawke in DA2 (and Hawke spoke to the Inquisitor about Corypheus)when he was even helped by the powers of the prison , sure the Inquisitor and the experts companions would have finished him off very easly into the arbor wilds.
Thousand years of experience?
He spent those years in slumber......not in augment his powers
I find stupid to run away from him and give to him the possibility to hide and survive which he didn't do only because of that rushed ending since that moron still had the Orb and he only need to hide in order to win and wait for the breach to naturally grow.


2
Abelas knew his secrets as a priest of Mythal he had the same knowledge of the well of sorrow because in order to be an high priest he must possess deep knowledge like be able to perform the summoning of Mythal. Morrigan killed an equally valid source of informations and Abelas would have eventually help the Inquisitor in defeating what was a common enemy for the temple possibly even summoning Flemeth by himself thus granting to you the dragon, the witch killed a potential source of informations.
He had no interest in see Corypheus destroy the temple either.

3
The well of sorrow is knowledge not an instant power boost, Abelas explain to the Inquisitor what the well of sorrow is and how it was created.
With this info the Inquisitor already knew even before he was killed that the well of sorrow would have offered at best the right intel and not any kind of trick to win against the magister.

4
The inquisitor first mission was not to kill Corypheus but to close the breach and without the Orb this was impossible.
Tell me what would have happened if Corypheus would have just waited after his defeat into the arbor wilds and would had hide or destroyed the Orb?
Run away from him into that eluvian when he was alone into the temple i think it was dumb and it worked out only with that contrived and rushed ending that made no sense and protrayed Cory as outrageously stupid.

 

 

so before to say that the witch saves the world you have to conveniently dismiss my point 2 and adopt that contrived and rushed ending of DAI which for most players didn't even made sense..

[Akiza]

And you're angry that she walks away? I'm sorry that Morrigan has opinions of her own.

It's not like every other Companion can walk away or even try to kill you. Oh wait, yes they can.

 

 

 

I have been pondering on the same thing but i have come to a different conclusion than you do.

I'm for the absolute freedom of companions and while one can argue that certain companions from DAO and DAI leave the group or even try to attack the protagonist (and they all die in the attempt) under certain circumstances, unlike Solas and Morrigan none of them was there to try to use the protagonists for their own ends from the beginning of the game.

Their whole betrayal  lies in the fact that they inserted themselves in the group from the start solely to try  to use the protagonists

(this is even worse for those who were in love with them) as tools for their own ends.

So yes there are several players who are angry on Solas and Morrigan for that and honestly why shouldn't they?

[Aren]

I have been pondering on the same thing but i have come to a different conclusion than you do.
I'm for the absolute freedom of companions and while one can argue that certain companions from DAO and DAI leave the group or even try to attack the protagonist (and they all die in the attempt) under certain circumstances, unlike Solas and Morrigan none of them was there to try to use the protagonists for their own ends from the beginning of the game.
Their whole betrayal lies in the fact that they inserted themselves in the group from the start solely to try to use the protagonists
(this is even worse for those who were in love with them) as tools for their own ends.
So yes there are several players who are angry on Solas and Morrigan for that and honestly why shouldn't they?

My view on the matter is slightly different from yours as i draw my attention on more dear subjects to me which are friendship and love,concepts and treasures that evidently both Solas and Morrigan failed to properly value.
While i treasured as a player their romance arch experience, i have to admit that my protagonists received nothing more but pain and misery from these two romance.
My warden who romanced and had a deeply affection for Morrigan is unable to forgive her , similarly is for my Lavellan with Solas, i can't forgive these two when it comes to how they poorly treated their partners.

-Morrigan received love and affection from the warden, she gained the two Grimoires, the golden mirror and help against Flemeth.
After all of this in Redclieffe you're going to abandon the warden and say that you don't care for him at all while smiling on him and hoping for his regret and his best demise?
"Farewell my love, should you live past the morrow i trust that will only be with regret"
Because he didn't agreed to lose and use like a container a child of him?
What Morrigan did and said is inexcusable in this scenario.
She used love as a tool for manipulation and openly treated the warden with disdain when this deal was refused.


-Solas is saying that regardless of what he experienced through love and friendship his goal was to kill everyone and is still to kill everyone and all of this because of his hyper racist view of the world.On top of that the Inquisitor even lost an arm because of his mistake with the Orb and others were killed.

 I felt like Morrigan and Solas wronged and betrayed the protagonists who romanced them but didn't wanted to be used from them.

 

[MidnightWolf]

My view on the matter is slightly different from yours as i draw my attention on more dear subjects to me which are friendship and love,concepts and treasures that evidently both Solas and Morrigan failed to properly value.
While i treasured as a player their romance arch experience, i have to admit that my protagonists received nothing more but pain and misery from these two romance.
My warden who romanced and had a deeply affection for Morrigan is unable to forgive her , similarly is for my Lavellan with Solas, i can't forgive these two when it comes to how they poorly treated their partners.
-Morrigan received love and affection from the warden, she gained the two Grimoires, the golden mirror and help against Flemeth.
After all of this in Redclieffe you're going to abandon the warden and say that you don't care for him at all while smiling on him and hoping for his regret and his best demise?
"Farewell my love, should you live past the morrow i trust that will only be with regret"
Because he didn't agreed to lose and use like a container a child of him?
What Morrigan did and said is inexcusable in this scenario.
She used love as a tool for manipulation and openly treated the warden with disdain when this deal was refused.
-Solas is saying that regardless of what he experienced through love and friendship his goal was to kill everyone and is still to kill everyone and all of this because of his hyper racist view of the world.On top of that the Inquisitor even lost an arm because of his mistake with the Orb and others were killed.
 I felt like Morrigan and Solas wronged and betrayed the protagonists who romanced them but didn't wanted to be used from them.

This has got to be the single most well thought out response I've read on these forums in years, and I agree with you 100%.