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[Dabrikishaw]

Sometimes I really wish Trespasser ended without Solas telling The Inquisitor what his plans where.

[Gervaise]

The Inquisitor is going to have to be connected to the on going story because of that decision they asked you to make.  Plus the final scene when the Inquisitor sticks the knife in the map and declares what they are going to do about Solas.   Those who romanced him even have the wolf entering their dreams.  This is very different to how the previous two protagonists were left; with unanswered questions certainly about what became of them but not with their stated intent of wishing to be involved with what follows.    I opted for the aggressive disband speech and in it my Inquisitor said nothing about retiring from active service.    On the contrary he asked to be excused as he had the world to save, again.    Also if you join the Jennies, it states that whilst the story is put about that you have retired, this is in fact not true. 

 

As another poster has said, why would a new PC have any interest in trying to redeem Solas?    They don't know him; they have never had a friendship with him, let alone a romance.    There would have to at least be a scene with the Inquisitor explaining to their new recruit why they feel efforts should be concentrated on trying to change his mind rather than simply killing him.    Whilst those who are happy to see him die would have the alternative conversation of why the new PC should be very careful not to be taken in by Solas or his allies because they speak from experience.

 

I wonder if they might build up the new PC to a certain point and then have the Inquisitor join them.    Certainly if DA4 were to contain any final showdown with Solas I would expect the Inquisitor to be there.  

[roselavellan]

I got attached to my Warden, and wanted her back. I got attached to my Inquisitor and yes, of course, I want her back. And with Solas in the story, I want the Inquisitor back much, much more than I did the Warden. Not necessarily for all subsequent DA games, but for DA4.

 

I'd be happy to have a dual-protagonist approach, but would like to see a substantial showing from Quizzy, at least 50%. DA4 can be the introduction to DA5's protagonist, for example.

 

I doubt the next game will feature the Inquisitor as a protagonist. Losing a limb is nearly a definitive way of retiring a protagonist as killing them, especially in a universe where cybernetic prosthetics or limb regeneration don't exist.

"But I got a crossbow arm!" Lady, no crude grappling hook attachment is going to make up for the loss of a functional arm, especially one that doubled as an multi-use magical artifact. The Mark generated force fields, for God's sake.

 

They don't exist - yet/as far as we know/to the extent that we understand/etc.

 

Also, losing the arm/Anchor and learning to use a new one is an excellent way to drop the Inquisitor back to Level 1 for DA4.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

I never got attached to my Warden or Hawke, I was glad to move on to new protagonists, but it's different for me with the Inquisitor. Oh well, whatever the devs are going with I will accept, but I will continue to hold out hope for my Inquisitor.

[d1ta]

... Why is it that I get a feeling in this situation about Inquisitor returning/not returning greatly reminded me of :
- OGS Kieran / normal Kieran / no Kieran decision in DAO
- Keeping / Destroying Collector Base in ME2

.. and other things around those lines.

Yes, we'd get some varriety of outcomes, but they weren't really fleshed out in the next installment / major factor in the next game.
They were there as a nod to previous choices, but doesn't lead to ground shaking difference.

The Inquisitor may appear in DA4 (just like Hawk did in DAI. It somewhat feels like they're testing the water with it) But the focus of the story is still about the 'New Whatever' it is going to come next.
IF (and that is a huge, fat, underlined, big IF) they're going to go this route but with a little more 'meat' and 'oomph' for the Inquisitor in DA4, my rock bottom expectation is that I'd get to be in control of her dialogue wheel. Seriously. No hi-jacking auto dialogue.
And more importantly, don't screw up her happy domestic life with LI, m'kay?

[nightscrawl]

I'm very attached to my Inquisitor and would be quite pleased to see them return as the protagonist in the next game. People can go on and on about how it shouldn't/should happen but, in all honesty, my desire to play as the Inquisitor again is simply a testament to how much I enjoyed DA:I and how invested I am in my character's story. It is up to the devs, whatever they decide for the next game I'll roll with, and they have said repeatedly there is a new protagonist for every DA game, so chances are slim to none that Inquy will return as the main player character, but I can't help but continue to hope. At least until we know for certain.

 

Thank the Maker, a middle-of-the-road person. I agree completely. I actually enjoy the concept of having a new protagonist for every game as I think it opens up the series for different types of stories and character variety. But I will say that I also became very attached to my Inquisitor, more so than my Warden or Hawke, and wouldn't mind playing another game as him. But if that's not in the cards I'll accept it and move on.

[ESTAQ99]

As I wrote in my post, the arm can be replaced with prosthetic. Imo it would also send an awesome message that handicapped people do not have to sit at home and giv up on life.

 

 

EA can do a lot, in-game and outside their games, to help handicapped people understanding that they don't have to sit at home and give up on life but in no way is fair to force all of its customers, who would like to buy a possible future DA game, to play as a crippled PC.

 

BTW, who said that the Solas's conflict will be the central theme or the main quest in a future DA game? It could end up being something that will be addressed through a few to several encounters of the new pc with secret agents of the inquisition (via an special meetings places, vía eluvians, or written messages, etc) 

 

Good reasons for having the same protagonist in two or more consecutive games would be that the pc was so incredibly awesome as a character and such a universal success as a character in a first game that said character deserves to comeback. I don't really think that can be said about this Inquisitor who has been plagued with complaints from players, in several threads, of been a rather bland, uninteresting, blank slate character), or when in cases that a game was created from an already written books series (TW3 could be an good example), or when devs had created a game that was originally thought with the same pc (ME trilogy).

[nightscrawl]

The only way I would accept some sort of prosthetic would be if we could get some RP in there to talk about it. One damn scene is all I want. Losing a limb is a big f-ing deal, and I want my Inquisitor to deal with it on camera if we are going to be forced (by the devs) into using some sort of prosthetic device. No, I don't want it left to head-canon, but a simple line of dialogue is better than, "Oh, the Inquisitor has a fake arm, let's never mention it again," that I'm afraid we would get. I don't need to see him going through the angst and depression and all of that -- certainly character specific and I don't expect any other Inquisitor's to react as mine does. But I want something.

[greenbrownblue]

You know, we got attached to our Wardens in DAO, we got attached to our Hawkes in DA2 and now, we are attached to our Inquisitors in DAI but, each time we happily move on to get attached to a new protagonist so, why should DA4 (possibly DAI2) be any different?

 

I love my Inquisitors but, Treaspasser closes that story line nicely. Any after that play with Quizzy would have to be more of a Sims type game than a combat game and, that isn't Dragon Age. Sure I'd love to play my Quizzy doing watever it is they do (depending on my game choices in DAI) but, most of that would not be adventuring and combat, it would be helping templars, being a body guard for the Divine, trying to track Solas, following up with former Inquisition members, a lot of home life, map reading and paper work. Quizzy even tells us his/her adventuring days are over so, let Quizzy have it their way.

Tbh, I did not enjoy the Warden (never got attached to a voiceless character) and even tho I liked playing Hawke, I seriously would not want only-human story to be continued... Also, many people started DA with DA:I ("Dragon Age: Inquisition is the most successful launch in Bioware history based on units sold."). Tbh, among 4 of my friends that are DA fans only 1 of them had started Dragon Age with DA:O. Strangely... The 3 of us want the Inquisitor's story to be continued and the only one who does not is the one who knew DA before DA:I's release... So if the Inquisitor has attracted new players, why not continue her/his story? 
Also, the common mistake that I discused on reddit yesterday -> Inquisitor says "my adventuring days MAY be done", not "my adventuring days are over". It is said only if you keep the Inquisition and only in the context of tranforming from a military force to a peacekeeping organization. If you disband the Inquisition, she says no such thing.

[greenbrownblue]

The only way I would accept some sort of prosthetic would be if we could get some RP in there to talk about it. One damn scene is all I want. Losing a limb is a big f-ing deal, and I want my Inquisitor to deal with it on camera if we are going to be forced (by the devs) into using some sort of prosthetic device. No, I don't want it left to head-canon, but a simple line of dialogue is better than, "Oh, the Inquisitor has a fake arm, let's never mention it again," that I'm afraid we would get. I don't need to see him going through the angst and depression and all of that -- certainly character specific and I don't expect any other Inquisitor's to react as mine does. But I want something.

Yeaaaaaaa.... Yesterday I chatted with a dev who said that cutting a limb could complicate the process of making animations and in general clothes, weapons, etc. Which practically means spending more resources on including the Inquisitor.
So assuming that in Bioware nothing happens without a reason, I am curious why did the writer decide to do it -.- ... Surely not to show that the Inquisitor's days are over, because as I said, in red jenny's epilogue we see the Inquisitor running around with a crossbow arm :v ...

[ModernAcademic]

Are we in the XXI century? I'm reading people saying that becoming handicapped makes a person become useless.

 

I guess Stephen Hawking is just a guy in a wheelchair for some.

[greenbrownblue]

EA can do a lot, in-game and outside their games, to help handicapped people understanding that they don't have to sit at home and give up on life but in no way is fair to force all of its customers, who would like to buy a possible future DA game, to play as a crippled PC.

 

BTW, who said that the Solas's conflict will be the central theme or the main quest in a future DA game? It could end up being something that will be addressed through a few to several encounters of the new pc with secret agents of the inquisition (via an special meetings places, vía eluvians, or written messages, etc) 

 

Good reasons for having the same protagonist in two or more consecutive games would be that the pc was so incredibly awesome as a character and such a universal success as a character in a first game that said character deserves to comeback. I don't really think that can be said about this Inquisitor who has been plagued with complaints from players, in several threads, of been a rather bland, uninteresting, blank slate character), or when in cases that a game was created from an already written books series (TW3 could be an good example), or when devs had created a game that was originally thought with the same pc (ME trilogy).

Dude, definition of crippled: "Unable to walk or move properly". Last I checked my Inquisitor did not walk on hands. And please do not imply that gamers would not buy a product just because there is a crippled PC............... That's offensive.

About Solas -> Check the link to an interview with David Gaider at the beginning he will talk about arc and later he will explain why did Bioware decide to include a scene with Solas and Flemeth.It is so obvious that the next DA will be about the Inquisition/ex-Inquisition stopping Solas  ... ("The length of the plot arc. It wasn't like we had twice as much content. The amount of ground we were going to cover with the story was twice as long. And the rest of that plot arc still exists. So, it's now in Patrick Weeks hands. Good luck, buddy! Good luck going the rest of the distance! And we'll see how he does that.") .

Also, Dragon Age Inquisition was  a success: "Dragon Age: Inquisition is the most successful launch in BioWare history based on units sold" (meaning: "Thanks to DA:I people got interested in DA world"). Personally I became a DA fan thanks to DA:I. From 4 of my friends who are fans too, only one of them had played DA:O and DA II before the DA:I launch. DA:I on IGN has higher player ranking than DA:O and DAII. If that's not enough, look at Bioware store - people buy DA:I related products. If the Inquisitor was so "bland" the game would not be so popular. Content players hardly never come to forums to write about their good impression, but angry ones are always first to talk trash and exaggerate. And btw,   from your profile, I can see you are here because you love talking poop about the Inquisitor.   Booooooooh! Haters gonna hate.

[greenbrownblue]

Are we in the XXI century? I'm reading people saying that becoming handicapped makes a person become useless.

 

I guess Stephen Hawking is just a guy in a wheelchair for some.

Ah? I do not think I saw a post saying that being handicapped means being useless. There was a conversation that handicapped people have to fight negative thinking and that having a handicapped Inquisitor would send a good message. So please, do not exaggerate... Unless you are here to start keyboard wars...

[DarkSun09]

My inquisitor is a mage. She doesn't need two functioning arms to still be a badass. One is plenty. Heck, she doesn't even need a staff. What was it that she said to Cassandra at the beginning... "You think I need a staff to be dangerous?" lol. She doesn't! Disabled people can still kick ass, and it's especially true if you're a mage.

 

Anyway, I wouldn't mind my inquisitor coming back as a protagonist in the next game, though it's more likely that she will come back and take on an advisory role like Lelianna or Morrigan. The Dread Wolf's spies are everywhere and any overt action on her part will attract too much attention because everyone knows her. Hence, I think the next protagonist may be an agent we recruit to fight on the inquisition's side. And I'd be totally ok with that as long as I can take control of her at some point to help save that stupid wolf. 

[ModernAcademic]

Ah? I do not think I saw a post saying that being handicapped means being useless. There was a conversation that handicapped people have to fight negative thinking and that having a handicapped Inquisitor would send a good message. So please, do not exaggerate... Unless you are here to start keyboard wars...

 

Jesus, no. No wars. I ran my eyes through the thread and I could swear I saw one or two people in the first page start ranting about how bad being handicapped was for the Inquisitor, because he couldn't fight, couldn't go against Solas, etc. Hence my comment.

 

Peace and love. And cookies. Plenty of cookies. With chocolate chips.

[Dai Grepher]

I would like to see a new protag just for the sake of playing the Hero, the Champion, the Inquisitor, and the new protag all in one party. But I think it makes sense to have a new protag who can do the things the Inquisitor can't do, and no I'm not referring to any physical handicap. I mean public actions. Searching for somniborium (which are like the foci), researching the Tevinter libraries about the Veil, summoning the ancient spirits of the Vir Dirthara to learn more from them about Solas, or tracking his elven agents.

 

I hope the Inquisitor is playable though. We need an Inquisitor vs. Solas battle, even if it's just a short exchange and showcase of abilities.

 

Also, I think Aegis  of the Rift might be a normal spell. It is implied that Telana could use it. The "ability" is found by looting her corpse. Although, doing so causes the mark to react, so maybe not.

[greenbrownblue]

Sometimes I really wish Trespasser ended without Solas telling The Inquisitor what his plans where.

True  ! Well, but do you remember that line where Inquisitor asks "Why this world has to die in order for the elves to return?" and Solas answers "A good question but not one I will answer. You have always shown a thoughtfulness I respected. It would be too easy to tell you too much." ? Looks like Bioware's message to fans, similar to that message from Cole: "“If you leave and come back, the chest gives you another. That's how we know too much." Maybe if someone finds out what Bioware meant then we will know what Solas' plans are !

[greenbrownblue]

I would like to see a new protag just for the sake of playing the Hero, the Champion, the Inquisitor, and the new protag all in one party. But I think it makes sense to have a new protag who can do the things the Inquisitor can't do, and no I'm not referring to any physical handicap. I mean public actions. Searching for somniborium (which are like the foci), researching the Tevinter libraries about the Veil, summoning the ancient spirits of the Vir Dirthara to learn more from them about Solas, or tracking his elven agents.

 

I hope the Inquisitor is playable though. We need an Inquisitor vs. Solas battle, even if it's just a short exchange and showcase of abilities.

 

Also, I think Aegis  of the Rift might be a normal spell. It is implied that Telana could use it. The "ability" is found by looting her corpse. Although, doing so causes the mark to react, so maybe not.

Buddy..... It is kinda impossible to have HoF, Hawke and the Inquisitor in one party, because in some scenarios HoF and Hawke are dead....

[greenbrownblue]

The Inquisitor is going to have to be connected to the on going story because of that decision they asked you to make.  Plus the final scene when the Inquisitor sticks the knife in the map and declares what they are going to do about Solas.   Those who romanced him even have the wolf entering their dreams.  This is very different to how the previous two protagonists were left; with unanswered questions certainly about what became of them but not with their stated intent of wishing to be involved with what follows.    I opted for the aggressive disband speech and in it my Inquisitor said nothing about retiring from active service.    On the contrary he asked to be excused as he had the world to save, again.    Also if you join the Jennies, it states that whilst the story is put about that you have retired, this is in fact not true. 

 

As another poster has said, why would a new PC have any interest in trying to redeem Solas?    They don't know him; they have never had a friendship with him, let alone a romance.    There would have to at least be a scene with the Inquisitor explaining to their new recruit why they feel efforts should be concentrated on trying to change his mind rather than simply killing him.    Whilst those who are happy to see him die would have the alternative conversation of why the new PC should be very careful not to be taken in by Solas or his allies because they speak from experience.

 

I wonder if they might build up the new PC to a certain point and then have the Inquisitor join them.    Certainly if DA4 were to contain any final showdown with Solas I would expect the Inquisitor to be there.  

*ClapClapClap*

[ESTAQ99]

Dude, definition of crippled: "Unable to walk or move properly". Last I checked my Inquisitor did not walk on hands. And please do not imply that gamers would not buy a product just because there is a crippled PC............... That's offensive.

About Solas -> Check the link to an interview with David Gaider at the beginning he will talk about arc and later he will explain why did Bioware decide to include a scene with Solas and Flemeth.It is so obvious that the next DA will be about the Inquisition/ex-Inquisition stopping Solas  ... ("The length of the plot arc. It wasn't like we had twice as much content. The amount of ground we were going to cover with the story was twice as long. And the rest of that plot arc still exists. So, it's now in Patrick Weeks hands. Good luck, buddy! Good luck going the rest of the distance! And we'll see how he does that.") .

Also, Dragon Age Inquisition was  a success: "Dragon Age: Inquisition is the most successful launch in BioWare history based on units sold" (meaning: "Thanks to DA:I people got interested in DA world"). Personally I became a DA fan thanks to DA:I. From 4 of my friends who are fans too, only one of them had played DA:O and DA II before the DA:I launch. DA:I on IGN has higher player ranking than DA:O and DAII. If that's not enough, look at Bioware store - people buy DA:I related products. If the Inquisitor was so "blant" the game would not be so popular. Content players hardly never come to forums to write about their good impression, but angry ones are always first to talk trash and exaggerate. And btw,   from your profile, I can see you are here because you love talking poop about the Inquisitor.   Booooooooh! Haters gonna hate.

 

 

OK......dude, As per The Merriam-Webster dictionary, cripple is defined as,

 

a A lame or partly disabled person or animal.

 

b :  One that is disabled or deficient in a specified manner.

 

If the correct use of the word is what offends you, is your problem, not mine.

 

I checked the whole interview to David Gaider before I wrote my previous post and in no way in that interview he confirmed that the main plot of a future DA game will be based on Solas/Inquisitor arc.

 

Also, the Inquisitor wasn't "blant", he/she was "bland".

 

Regarding DAI success, well, show me the numbers so we can elaborate on that topic. 

 

Thank you for checking my profile. The truth about my frustration with DAI has finally been exposed. LOL

 

I see satisfied players coming to defend DAI here on this forum on regular bases, as I see people who are dissatisfied with the game in various degrees coming here as well. I have no idea where you take that theory that "content players hardly never come to forums to write about their good impression" from. If stating it makes you sleep better, so be it. What I see often is that people who liked a game get outraged easily when reading post criticising said game and very often feel entitled to write offensive replies. 

 

I really had high hopes for DAI before it release, to the point I was driving some family members and friends really nut with me talking nonstop on how excited I was in anticipation of playing the game, one I thought could be extraordinary. Yes, I've been criticising DAI really hard ever since I did my playthrough and unless I get banned from this forum, I will continue criticising its many flaws. Surely, as many others, I will do it less and less often as my sour DAI experience gets more distant in time and the bitter taste of having played it dissipates.

[Zaalbar]

I'd like to see a duo protagonist situation in the next DA game, maybe bring back the Inquisitor In edition to a new protagonist. It would certainly be an interesting direction to go in and something I believe Bioware has never done before.

[Violetbliss]

I think it would be cool if your main character, if not the Inquisitor, was one of the new in the Inquisitor's band. So you would essentially be working for your old main character, at least initially depending on developments. But i'm also okay with playing the inquisitor again, feels like the character could use more development since the focus and scope was much wider for her than the previous ones.

 

Finally, i would be fine with a completely new set as well, since we survived DA1 and 2 in that regard. But given how things ended I think picking one of the characters we've already been around would have the biggest impact. Also, I'd actually love for a handicap to remain. I think it would add to the character.

[AresKeith]

My preferred route is dual protagonists with the new PC getting more screen time, but if I had to choose it would be a new PC over the Inquisitor

[Corades]

I want to play dual protagonist. The Solas arc makes more sense with the inquisitor in it. 

[Derrame]

I'd really like to have the inquisitor as protagonist of the next game, with a magic prosthetic arm maybe, good idea, the returning characters/companions could be Leliana, Morrigan, Cassandra and Varric