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[greenbrownblue]

Thank the Maker, a middle-of-the-road person. I agree completely. I actually enjoy the concept of having a new protagonist for every game as I think it opens up the series for different types of stories and character variety. But I will say that I also became very attached to my Inquisitor, more so than my Warden or Hawke, and wouldn't mind playing another game as him. But if that's not in the cards I'll accept it and move on.

Yeah, like with Shepard not being the protagonist in ME:A. Cried for a while and then moved on, but it is still painfull that "Shepard cult" wont continue </3.

[greenbrownblue]

OK......dude, As per The Merriam-Webster dictionary, cripple is defined as,

 

a A lame or partly disabled person or animal.

 

b :  One that is disabled or deficient in a specified manner.

 

If the correct use of the word is what offends you, is your problem, not mine.

 

I checked the whole interview to David Gaider before I wrote my previous post and in no way in that interview he confirmed that the main plot of a future DA game will be based on Solas/Inquisitor arc.

 

Also, the Inquisitor wasn't "blant", he/she was "bland".

 

Regarding DAI success, well, show me the numbers so we can elaborate on that topic. 

 

Thank you for checking my profile. The truth about my frustration with DAI has finally been exposed. LOL

 

I see satisfied players coming to defend DAI here on this forum on regular bases, as I see people who are dissatisfied with the game in various degrees coming here as well. I have no idea where you take that theory that "content players hardly never come to forums to write about their good impression" from. If stating it makes you sleep better, so be it. What I see often is that people who liked a game get outraged easily when reading post criticising said game and very often feel entitled to write offensive replies. 

 

I really had high hopes for DAI before it release, to the point I was driving some family members and friends really nut with me talking nonstop on how excited I was in anticipation of playing the game, one I thought could be extraordinary. Yes, I've been criticising DAI really hard ever since I did my playthrough and unless I get banned from this forum, I will continue criticising its many flaws. Surely, as many others, I will do it less and less often as my sour DAI experience gets more distant in time and the bitter taste of having played it dissipates.

Shoo shoo, hater.

[greenbrownblue]

I'd really like to have the inquisitor as protagonist of the next game, with a magic prosthetic arm maybe, good idea, the returning characters/companions could be Leliana, Morrigan, Cassandra and Varric 

Yeah.... It would be great if fans could make some prosthetic desgins..... Ehhhh

[ESTAQ99]

Shoo shoo, hater.

 

You just proved my previous point.

 

Insults are not arguments. When people resort to insults and personal abuses, then, they have run out of logic.

[MoonblaDAI]

I don't think that the inquisitor would be the protagonist, but a customizable character (like Hawke was on Inquisition).

 

This is my take on what will happen in DA:4

 

1) There will be three warring factions, Humans, Qunari and Elves, your choice of race will be tied to one of these factions.

2) Elves, under Solas' leadership have taken the region of the Dales back for the elves, significatively shrinking Orlais and Ferelden.

3) Surviving Humans from these two regions and the Free Marches will join the Tevinter Imperium on a desperate attempt to recover the land they have lost, the Imperium, changed after Maevaris and Dorian leadership, seeing the risk of the Elven expansionism in the South and being attacked by the Qunari on the North front as well, agrees to join forces with the remaining Humans of the South, as far as they help fighting the Qunari.

4) Dwarves will be the only ones able to have two choices, surfacers will join the Humans, Orzammar will join the Elves, as far as whatever Solas does on the surface doesn't affect the depths where they live.

4) Your character, with the help of the inquisitor and whatever remains of the Inquisition is tasked with the goal of negotiate peace among the warring factions without betraying your race.

[Darkly Tranquil]

I didn't find the Inquisitor a particularly engaging protagonist, irrespective of the arm situation (which can be worked around, I'm sure). I rather a new protagonist with a cameo from the Inquisitor.

[Nonoru]

You don't need the Inquisitor to be the protagonist in the next installment. You can have them being the one acting behind the scene and/or ordering you around but no need to bring them in the role of the protagonist for that. There's plenty of possibilities without having to resort to that option. I would rather have the choice of races (and possibly exclusive origins in the next game), rather than use a character which has already left its mark upon Thedas. (no pun intended) 

[Kezza]

I admit I would like to have the inquisitor come back as the protagonist however it is very unlikely. I just hate getting attached to a character and then having to play a new character in the very next game.

 

On a choice of having a new protagonist, I would love to see an Avvar with their unique views on the world.

 

I don't think that the inquisitor would be the protagonist, but a customizable character (like Hawke was on Inquisition).

 

This is my take on what will happen in DA:4

 

1) There will be three warring factions, Humans, Qunari and Elves, your choice of race will be tied to one of these factions.

2) Elves, under Solas' leadership have taken the region of the Dales back for the elves, significatively shrinking Orlais and Ferelden.

3) Surviving Humans from these two regions and the Free Marches will join the Tevinter Imperium on a desperate attempt to recover the land they have lost, the Imperium, changed after Maevaris and Dorian leadership, seeing the risk of the Elven expansionism in the South and being attacked by the Qunari on the North front as well, agrees to join forces with the remaining Humans of the South, as far as they help fighting the Qunari.

4) Dwarves will be the only ones able to have two choices, surfacers will join the Humans, Orzammar will join the Elves, as far as whatever Solas does on the surface doesn't affect the depths where they live.

4) Your character, with the help of the inquisitor and whatever remains of the Inquisition is tasked with the goal of negotiate peace among the warring factions without betraying your race.

I highly doubt that they would limit it that much, cause unless they have a freak event that forces them to unite it would be a nightmare for them to have on the tapestry and future games. Also there would have to be a massive time jump for one Solas would have to get all the dalish clans together and not all would accept him even if he is one of their gods.

Also the Elven gods are not as powerful as one would think, they seem to be only as powerful as their planning and arcane objects at their disposal. I am basing this off Mythal who you do defeat but only came back due to her own planning ahead, which was also very short term planning.

[Dai Grepher]

Buddy..... It is kinda impossible to have HoF, Hawke and the Inquisitor in one party, because in some scenarios HoF and Hawke are dead....

 

Hawke's fate is unclear, and the Hero's role could be filled by the Orlesian Warden-Commander.
 

[themikefest]

I would have no problem having the Inquisitor being the main character in the next game. I enjoy hearing AWR's voice. I'm sure AWR wouldn't mind voicing femquisitor again.

 

I would not lose any sleep if the next game features a new main character

[AresKeith]

Hawke's fate is unclear, and the Hero's role could be filled by the Orlesian Warden-Commander.
 

 

People are giving the OWC a lot more publicity than they really deserve 

[ask_again_later]

It definitely seems like their story isn't over. In the DLC (can't remember the name) Solas says the anchor is slowly going to kill the Inquisitor, and then the Inquisitor can tell Solas that they are going to stop him. I guess the slowly dying isn't a big deal, since the Warden is the same (Hawke seems to be the only one safe in that area). Saying that they're going to stop Solas, on the other hand, means that they have a new goal, suggesting that their story isn't over, or that they're at least going to continue to search for Solas. However, it seemed like Hawke's story wasn't over either, but the next game had a new protagonist.

The Mass Effect story basically ended after the Reapers, and from what I know of, the one with a new protagonist has a new plot. So Shepard was basically used throughout the entire story of Mass Effect. That's one of the things that makes Mass Effect, Mass Effect. Dragon Age, on the other hand, has a new protagonist every time, and the main story isn't over yet, so I doubt the Inquisitor will be the protagonist of the next game. However, anything's possible.

[robertthebard]

You shouldn't speak for others. Not everyone happily moved on. Just look at all the "Bring back the Warden" threads. 
 
Trespasser ruins the story if that is the end of the story. 
Also, not all Inquisitors say that. The Inquisitor can also say how they are going to save the world again. Also, in the dialogue you are referring to the Inquisitor say their adventuring days may be over, not are over. The use of the word may is critical since it expresses an uncertainty. 
 
 

Yep. The entire arc was the Inquisitor's arc, but it was too big for the game so they did just the first half in DAI, but the second half is still around according to David Gaider, the lead writer of that arc. It can certainly be changed to accommodate a new protagonist, but it wouldn't work as well.

Why wouldn't it? What if it was already written for another protagonist, and they had intended it to follow up Tresspasser, or if they had intended that the Inquisitor actually sit back and run the Inquisition, instead of putting themselves at risk every day doing stuff that other soldiers could accomplish? What source are you using that states emphatically that it was the Inquisitor's story, and not just the Inquistion's story? The interview certainly didn't indicate that. So to me, it's just a call back to the first part of your post, with a dose of wishful thinking.

OT: If they can find a way to make it "believable", I don't much care one way or the other. But if it's going to be "because the fans are going to riot, again", then no. Let those that are going to kick and scream, or whatever it is they're going to do, have at it, and proceed to give us the game they have in mind.

[Asheruc]

The loss of the hand seems like the Inquisitor won't be the protagonist as has been mentioned already. But if the inquisitor were canonically a KE, they could perhaps form a spirit blade from their arm without their hand to fight with. But that would take away some of the fun for those that don't want to play a KE. Also have the Inquisitor as the protagonist would mean no new character creation if importing a save. They could pull a Shepard though and somehow bring their hand back.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The loss of the hand seems like the Inquisitor won't be the protagonist as has been mentioned already. But if the inquisitor were canonically a KE, they could perhaps form a spirit blade from their arm without their hand to fight with. But that would take away some of the fun for those that don't want to play a KE. Also have the Inquisitor as the protagonist would mean no new character creation if importing a save. They could pull a Shepard though and somehow bring their hand back.

Just give them a prosthetic arm and problem solved. We had fully functional prosthetics in medieval times, and that is without magic or Dwarven and/or Qunari engineering. 

[nightscrawl]

It definitely seems like their story isn't over. In the DLC (can't remember the name) Solas says the anchor is slowly going to kill the Inquisitor, and then the Inquisitor can tell Solas that they are going to stop him. I guess the slowly dying isn't a big deal, since the Warden is the same (Hawke seems to be the only one safe in that area). Saying that they're going to stop Solas, on the other hand, means that they have a new goal, suggesting that their story isn't over, or that they're at least going to continue to search for Solas. However, it seemed like Hawke's story wasn't over either, but the next game had a new protagonist.

 
Uhm... we don't have to worry about the whole "slowly dying" part since the Anchor is now gone, and so is our hand.

[robertthebard]

Just give them a prosthetic arm and problem solved. We had fully functional prosthetics in medieval times, and that is without magic or Dwarven and/or Qunari engineering.

We did? I understand that we have had prosthetics for a very long time, but "fully functional"? I'm sure there's a certain drummer running around today that would have been thrilled to know that he could have just gotten a new arm, instead of reinventing the wheel, as it were, so he could do more with his feet. So if we've had "fully functional" prosthetics since medieval times, why didn't he just get one?

[Absafraginlootly]

I don't see the missing arm as a obstacle to the inquisitor returning as they could always design them a new combat animations and trees that focus on one handed fighting styles(or in the case of archery a crossbow prosthetic?).

 

That said I actually want a new protagonist. I like having a new protagonist every game, love making new ones with new point of views and want the new story, new experiences, characters, companions, romances etc. 

 

I'd be disappointed if we didn't have that in DA4, I'd probably still try it out, as there hasn't been a dragon age game yet that I haven't enjoyed, so hopefully I'd still enjoy that one. But it would nonetheless be missing a major thing that I enjoy about the franchise.

[themikefest]

We did? I understand that we have had prosthetics for a very long time, but "fully functional"? I'm sure there's a certain drummer running around today that would have been thrilled to know that he could have just gotten a new arm, instead of reinventing the wheel, as it were, so he could do more with his feet. So if we've had "fully functional" prosthetics since medieval times, why didn't he just get one?

I guess you're talking about Rick Allen of the group Def Leppard who lost his arm in 1984. If not,  ignore my comment.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

We did? I understand that we have had prosthetics for a very long time, but "fully functional"? I'm sure there's a certain drummer running around today that would have been thrilled to know that he could have just gotten a new arm, instead of reinventing the wheel, as it were, so he could do more with his feet. So if we've had "fully functional" prosthetics since medieval times, why didn't he just get one?

Yep. Gottfried "Götz" von Berlichingen, or Götz of the Iron Hand, lost his right arm and got a prosthetic in the beginning of the 1500s. His prosthetic hand allowed him to hold a shield in combat, ride a horse, and even delicate tasks like writing with a quill, allowing him to continue his occupation as a mercenary and a poet for decades after he lost his arm. 

[robertthebard]

Yep. Gottfried "Götz" von Berlichingen, or Götz of the Iron Hand, lost his right arm and got a prosthetic in the beginning of the 1500s. His prosthetic hand allowed him to hold a shield in combat, ride a horse, and even delicate tasks like writing with a quill, allowing him to continue his occupation as a mercenary and a poet for decades after he lost his arm. 

So it's opened, or closed, but that's fully functional? What if he wanted to grab a cup, and flip out his pinky, like in "polite society"? What if he wanted to flip me a bird? How long would it take him to modify his fingers for that? What if he wanted to do an open handed parry into a grab? What if he needed to shift his grip for a single handed weapon parry? How does he reload or fire a xbow?

There's a difference between functionality, and fully functional. As it stands right now today, we don't have fully functional, although they are getting closer to it.

[Dai Grepher]

People are giving the OWC a lot more publicity than they really deserve 

 

No, just pointing out the possibility. Another alternative option is Stroud.

[rapscallioness]

I do not want to play the Inquisitor again. Arm, or no arm. They were my least favorite PC from BW. And tbh, I do not want to see any of the companions return either.

[Iron-Gear Serpent]

I think that there's something to gain from both the Inquisitor being the next protagonist and someone else coming into the picture.  People like me who have romanced Solas or others who consider him a friend can trudge the emotional path of redeeming Solas.  Even people who hated Solas can experience the desperation to stop Solas at any cost.  Adding a new protagonist gives the player an opportunity to reinvent themselves once again.  If the next game takes place in Tevinter, as the after credits scene of Trespasser suggests, players can experience life as a slave or an altus caught within Tevinter's political infighting.  It could be a good way for Bioware to bring back the origin system that made Dragon Origins noteworthy. Playing a new character also offers a third person view of the events.

Personally, I'm torn between the two choices. Patrick Weeks raised my standards for both antagonists and romance choices.  Never in any other RPG game, even other Bioware games, have I been so emotionally invested in my protagonist and her romantic choice.  I know it's a little silly to say but the journey to redeem Solas has become a personal one, a journey I started with Lavellan.  I also feel, as a player, a new protagonist gives me opportunities to make the world of Thedas my own, not being held back by the Inquisitor's choices in Inquisition.

Who knows, maybe the choice to keep or disband the Inquisition could influence this.  Surely losing an arm would not stop the Inquisitor from continuing on with their journey, so what would?  Disbanding the Inquisition removes any responsibilities that might keep the Inquisitor busy in southern Thedas.  They could journey to Tevinter to build a new group from scratch.  But if the Inquisition was turned into the Divine's peacekeeping force, the Inquisitor might be in a position where they cannot be directly involved in the events of the next game but can send word to the new protagonist like a surviving warden did for the Inquisitor.

Just putting out an idea, but I think it would be a pretty nice blend to make the Inquisitor one of the new protagonist's companions or perhaps an advisor.  It could bring along the emotions and continuation of the Inquisitor's journey and bring about the new experiences, maintain a third person view of the events of Inquisition, and world making of a new protagonist.

Well, if there's one thing I know, I usually only think I know what I want only to be shown what it is I actually want.

[TheExtreamH]

from a narrative standpoint it suits the Inquisitor being the protag in the next game, If its finishing up the Solas story line.