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[SirLadySketch]

I've been reading into some of the lore for fanfic purposes, and it dawned on me that I don't remember seeing any elves among the Templar ranks. I don't know if this was me not really looking for them (none of my canon characters really like the Templars), and I haven't seen anything in the codices/wiki pages to suggest that non-humans cannot become Templars.

 

I'm just wondering if it's a canon thing based on racial prejudices, where humans wouldn't want elves/non-humans sullying the ranks of their order. I could see them maybe making an exception for dwarves, since dwarves have no innate magic (Titan blood/ Old Song business aside) that could potentially corrupt their judgement.

 

Anyone have any thoughts/screenshots to help me out?

[X Equestris]

Yes, they can be. They probably wouldn't be able to advance in rank much, though. Evangeline was originally going to be an elf, and there's a brief mention of a dwarven templar in Last Flight. None definitely appear in game.

[thats1evildude]

Yes, they can be. They probably wouldn't be able to advance in rank much, though. Evangeline was originally going to be an elf, and there's a brief mention of a dear en templar in Last Flight. None definitely appear in game.

 

I suspect Equestris meant to say "dwarven" templar. Stupid auto-correct.

[SirLadySketch]

That's good to know, thanks! For fic purposes, I think I'm going to make my village's podunk Circle bigoted and against letting non-humans in, but it's always helpful to keep the possibilities in mind while writing. Appreciate the help!

[X Equestris]

I suspect Equestris meant to say "dwarven" templar. Stupid auto-correct.

Yes. Where autocorrect comes up with these things, I'll never know.

[Ashagar]

Apparently there are a some elven templars in lore though its a human dominated organization. That doesn't seem to be the case with the knight enchanters however  given who your teacher is if you go for Knight Enchanter, apparently directly serving the Divine has perks.

[Treacherous J Slither]

I'm pretty sure the Templars are racist.

[springacres]

Apparently there are a some elven templars in lore though its a human dominated organization. That doesn't seem to be the case with the knight enchanters however  given who your teacher is if you go for Knight Enchanter, apparently directly serving the Divine has perks.

The cynic in me suspects that elven templars might be a thing of the past, or at best that elves are only accepted so the Chantry can claim they're not racist.

 

It does seem to be canon for elves to join the Chantry, however.  In DA2's Exalted Prince DLC, when you clear out the Harimann mansion, an elven servant escapes.  You don't learn her name at the time, but Hawke later gets a letter from a "Sister Arielle" who mentions her escape from the Harimann mansion, and also that she's joined the Chantry and taken vows.  Since the elven woman is the only person who flees the mansion during that quest, I think it's safe to assume she is the one who wrote the letter.

[Hydwn]

I thought Templars were technically clerical, like the brothers who form the low ranks of the Chantry.   They seem somewhat foggy on the particulars - sometimes, it's made clear Templars are supposed to be married to the church and their faith (that Templar in the Broken Circle who dreamed of a wife and children) and other times they marry and have children (like Aveline's husband).  

 

I assumed as Chantry hierarchy, Templars were humans only - there are Dwarven and Elven Andrasteans, but the only Dwarven brother you ever meet is Brother Burkel.  Some dialogue makes it clear that the chantry does not recognize Elven and Dwarven clerics.  Sister Giselle admits that the official reason is that Elves and Dwarves "fell farther from the maker" but that the real reason is likely just politics and racism.  I suspect either Brother Burkel wasn't recognized, or he was made a special case to preach in Orzammar.  

 

The Last Flight's timeline is pretty foggy, which makes me wonder if the "canon" Divine is Leliana.  She wants to ordain Elves, Dwarves, and Qunari, and I'd assume that would mean Templars as well.  The books all pick a canon because taking into account all player decisions would mean the writers would have to avoid too many topics.  Maybe the dwarven templar is there because of Leliana?

 

EDIT: For comparison, the real-life Knights Templar who were a religious order within the church were ordained monks as well as knights.  They could not own property, could not marry, and could hold no debts.  Except for the one married to Aveline, there's no sign that the Templars in Dragon Age are different.  Maybe the marriage to Aveline was a dark secret?  She didn't seem to care for chantry rules much.  If the brothers aren't supposed to be non-human, I'm guessing that (pre-Leliana) the Templars who defend the faith weren't supposed to either.

[Ashagar]

Officially according to lore templars can marry with chantry permission and they aren't required to be celibate but marriage is rare and vows of chastity are encouraged.

 

We do know that the southern priesthood is forbidden to non-humans and males while the northern chantry has male priests  who are allowed to have families, we also don't know if the northern chantry permits non-humans to become priests or not. Nonhumans can become brothers and sisters of the southern chantry, of which we have in game examples of a dwarven brother and a elven sister though its likely she will never advance though the chantry because of her race.

[SirLadySketch]

The Last Flight's timeline is pretty foggy, which makes me wonder if the "canon" Divine is Leliana.  She wants to ordain Elves, Dwarves, and Qunari, and I'd assume that would mean Templars as well.  The books all pick a canon because taking into account all player decisions would mean the writers would have to avoid too many topics.  Maybe the dwarven templar is there because of Leliana?

 

On that note, I've been wondering if the way they plan to level the canon playing field is based on what we've seen in Trespasser and knowing what Solas plans to do. If he tears down the Veil, anyone powerful enough/with the knowledge could theoretically warp reality to make whoever or whatever the new canon. I've been trying to make Leliana my Divine, but I think I accidentally made a universe where she's dead, whoops.

[Korva]

A dwarven templar is mentioned by name and commended for having verbally defused a potentially volatile situation in one of the war table missions that follow Champions of the Just, so yes they can. Which makes me wonder if dwarves have a harder time with the lyrium or an easier one.

[straykat]

On a sidenote, I think this will become even less of an issue if you cure Cullen. And/or you save Templars, but disband Seekers. Then the Temps just become a policing force for general good (much like Seekers would be if you saved them). And if Leli is Divine, it'd quickly open up even more doors. No lyrium along with open invitations to other races if you're a Chantry believer.

 

 

Anyways.. it's a non-issue, I suppose. I think Dwarves need a little more explaining, but Gaider said he almost made Evangeline's character an Elf when he wrote Asunder. So it was open to him even back then.

[Ranadiel Marius]

A dwarven templar is mentioned by name and commended for having verbally defused a potentially volatile situation in one of the war table missions that follow Champions of the Just, so yes they can. Which makes me wonder if dwarves have a harder time with the lyrium or an easier one.

I believe dwarf Inquisitors can tell the Templar trainer something along the lines of "I'll be okay, I'm a dwarf," and his response is essentially, "Not going to help." My knowledge of that conversation is second hand though.

[Calder Grey Warden]

And the verdict is?... i still have doubts about the non-human templars

[The Baconer]

There are probably only a handful of non-human Templars, and I'm skeptical if they can even count elves among that number. 

[Ghost Gal]

If you haven't seen or heard of a single non-human Templar in three and a half games (I count Awakening as half a game since it's an expansion) and several books and comics, then the odds are "no, non-humans can't become Templars."

 

Only if Leliana is made Divine is the topic of race in the Chantry addressed. That is, she removes race and gender restrictions. So, yeah. (It seems only human women can become priests, humans and the occasional dwarves can become lay brothers/sisters and scholars, and humans of either gender can become Templars. The game hasn't stated otherwise.)

[MisterJB]

In "The Last Flight", there is a dwarf Templar.

[Ashagar]

If you haven't seen or heard of a single non-human Templar in three and a half games (I count Awakening as half a game since it's an expansion) and several books and comics, then the odds are "no, non-humans can't become Templars."

 

Only if Leliana is made Divine is the topic of race in the Chantry addressed. That is, she removes race and gender restrictions. So, yeah. (It seems only human women can become priests, humans and the occasional dwarves can become lay brothers/sisters and scholars, and humans of either gender can become Templars. The game hasn't stated otherwise.)

 

I could be mistaken as it been quite a while but one or two of the books I think had elven templars mentioned which would imply that while its possible its though to be honest how would you tell with all the armor and great helms most templars wear what race they were unless they were dwarves. The wiki mentions that there is nothing forbidding elves from becoming templars but that its not common and we know that dwarves can join the order and that there are lay brothers and sisters that are dwarves and elves.

[sjsharp2011]

Given that all warrior class characters can learn Templar abilities I would be surprised if there weren't Templars from every walk of life in Thedas

[Amne YA]

well in my opinion  : dwarfs are the only ome that cant be templar or maybe they can be the best templar .

templar use lyrium to face magic . dwarf are immune to lyrium and resistent to magic . so i dont think ingesting lyrium will turn a dwarf to a templar .
in another point of veiw they dont need it , cause they are already resistent to magic  with some training they can fight mage just like any templar.

now remain the chantry .  will it let the non human to serve and join the templars  , i dont think so cause the chantry dont consider non humans conected to the maker.

maybe until DA4 with leliana as the head of chantry things will change . but you know leliana was always dreaming of a prefect world  that its impossible to reach . she will fail . 

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Dwarven magic resistance would make them excellent templars... and I had Brother Burkel in my game, so it's highly likely that my Carta dwarf can be Andrastian.

[Adaarling]

In the city elves DA wiki page it is mentioned that elves "are not barred from becoming templars, but this is rare" (the source being the same tweet from Gaider where he says Evangeline was initially supposed to be an elf)

[dragonflight288]

A dwarven templar is mentioned by name and commended for having verbally defused a potentially volatile situation in one of the war table missions that follow Champions of the Just, so yes they can. Which makes me wonder if dwarves have a harder time with the lyrium or an easier one.

There is unique racial dialogue for dwarves Templar inquisitors.

The inquisitor can ask the trainer if being a dwarf limits the affects of lyrium. The trainer says no, but it has been asked

[Asdrubael Vect]

There is unique racial dialogue for dwarves Templar inquisitors.

The inquisitor can ask the trainer if being a dwarf limits the affects of lyrium. The trainer says no, but it has been asked

Dwarven Inquisitor already connected with fade and do magic

 

Grey warden dwarf have special blood what give him connection with fade(and they can see dreams and feel darkspawns) and have a lot magic, and we can have avernus potion what unlock more magic

 

 

Inquisition dialogue with Ser(Templar ability trainer) does not explain anything about lyrium powers as can normal dwarf(our is a huge exception, others is half-dwarf mage Sandal and mage dwarf Valta) use templars ability, they as we know should not have ability to use them cos of their biology and connection with fade

 

dwarf dialogue was about side effects of using lyrium and we know it since origins that dwarves are not immune to lyrium side effects and can become mad-have all effects of what addicted templars of Orlais Chantry have