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Custom Content Challenge: December 2015: Historically Inspired Arms & Armors


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The theme for this month's challenge: "Historically Inspired Arms & Armors":
  

Historically Inspired Arms & Armors: Armor and weapons inspired by (and looking more like) actual medieval war equipment. More accurate looking armor and weapon models, prefabbed items with accurate descriptions and possibly adjusted stats, whatever. Basically stuff that will provide a fighter/paladin/whoever with gear that is more realistic medieval-themed than fantasy medieval-themed.
 
This theme was suggested by Wallack & MannyJabrielle.
 
Guidelines:
  • It must be fully working in game.
  • Use of vanilla NWN or publicly available texture is fine.  Just remember that NWN textures must have dimensions in powers of 2 (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc.).
  • Teamwork is welcome.
  • Beginners most welcome. Don't be afraid, just try, you'll be surprised!
  • "Custom Content" includes many sorts of things: models, scripts, prefabs (areas, items, creatures, conversations, quests, etc.), sounds, portraits, or anything else new for the game.
  • All submissions must be finished, working, and emailed to NWNCCCMakers@gmail.com (or a non-Vault link provided) by January 1st, 2016. Sooner than that is perfectly fine too. ;-)
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    Somethings you could include in the download/email that would make packaging everything up easier and faster:
  • 2da lines needed.
  • Screenshot from in game for use on the vault page (this also gives me hints on how to display the new goodie). Formats: .bmp, .jpg, .png, or .tga
  • Portraits (if needed) of your new goodie. Placeables and monsters should include a portrait.
  • Inventory icons (if needed) of your new goodie.
  • Any credits you would like listed.
  • If this is your first entry, please tell me what name you would like your work listed under and provide a link to your other NWN content if you want that displayed as well (the link bit is totally optional).
  • Also if you would like an invite to the CC Makers group, send Rolo Kipp a friend invite. The group is nothing spectacular, mostly just documentation on 2da lines.
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    Remember, the Challenge is all about fun, sharing, creativity, and surprise!
     
    This thread is for all sorts of discussion about this month's theme: ideas for things to make, questions/concerns, announcement of what you intend to make, screenshots of work in progress and/or finished projects.  
     
    If you want to discuss the Monthly Custom Content Challenge idea as a whole or wish to submit ideas/themes for future monthly Challenges, please post in its thread here
     
    When submitting a new theme, please provide a title and short summary of the theme.
     
    If you have a technical question about some custom content creation, please create a separate thread so that the answers can be found later by anyone, not just people interested in this Challenge. 
     
    We'll try to help!
     
    Have no fear and join the fun!
     
    And finally, you can: 
     
    Submit theme suggestions. 
    Vote for January's theme.
    Email content to: NWNCCCMakers@gmail.com


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    The Amethyst Dragon

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    Emailed/Downloaded Projects:

    Altered Tabards (armor models) by Grymlorde

    Armoured Surcotes of the 7th Crusade (prefabs) by Grymlorde

    Medieval Armors (prefabs) by Grymlorde

    16th Century Spanish Breastplate (armor models) by Shemsu-Heru

    Wheel-Lock Pistol (weapon models) by Shemsu-Heru



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    Tarot Redhand

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    I have a request. Could someone please create a wheel-lock pistol model (Wikipedia link) please. Essential for Spelljammer modules and campaigns.

     

    lot512.jpg

     

    TR


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    Hekatoncheires

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    Yes, make the giffs happy!



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    If I have time this month I may throw together at least one historically correct war-scythe model.  Farmers' scythes aren't for fighting dammit.

     

    If I have more time, I might try to snag and convert some of the mount and blade warband armors/helms.  More probably just helms.


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    Grymlorde

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    A theme that's been near and dear to my heart for more than thirty years. . . were that I was a modeler. . . . Well I can certainly whip up a bunch of pre-fabs of what I think comes closest to historical armour in Core, CEP, and Q. I've invested quite a bit of time in getting the colours just so and using the right parts.

     

    I can also pull together a hak with historical armour weights and armour class. Ever since I discovered Chivalry & Sorcery back in 1980 I've been of the opinion that a full plate harness (c.f. Henry VIII's pollaxe armour) should be AC 0 (old school) or AC +10 (NWN/d20/3.x) and that all other armour classes reflect the percentage of plate covering, maille covering, cuir bouilli, leather, and bare skin.

     

    I can also add to the hak, heavier and lighter armour. For example, did you know that historically there have been a quite a variance in the ring size and thickness used in maille? For game purposes, it can be simplified into light, medium, and heavy versions. Plate armour did not have the same degree of variability of thickness until gunpowder come on the scene. From the early 1400s well into the 1600s there was quite a bit of experimentation in heat treating the metal as well as varying the degree of carbon to the point where one could argue that the distinctions between iron, steel, and high-carbon steel became so blurred that their definitions became worthless.

     

    Not to mention sword-proof, pistol-proof, and musket-proof heaumes and cuirasses. But to go there requires using a damage reduction system. . ..


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    Proleric

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    I have a request. Could someone please create a wheel-lock pistol model (Wikipedia link) please. Essential for Spelljammer modules and campaigns.
     
    TR


    ... preferably implemented as heavy crossbows for compatibility:

    http://neverwinterva...ack-powder-guns

    http://neverwinterva...-and-matchlocks
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    Was thinking of doing some ancient weapons of India for the Maldrapur Chronicles along with all the temples and ludicrously huge monsters and so on... (Kali needs a proper trishula if nothing else)...

    But now I've got heavily involved in two major non-NWN projects and my time has dwindled to a sort of infinitesimal blob at present, so I'll very likely not actually get around to sacred Hindu weapons any time soon...

    So I now ask myself why I even mentioned it?

    Moths! Moths must have got my brain!



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    Zwerkules

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    Moths! Moths must have got my brain!

    No spleens?



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    MerricksDad

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    Has anybody thought about arms and armor other than wearables, such as siege equipment?

     

    Examples:

    Team of 6 dudes carrying a battering ram, either as a single creature model, or as a complex VFX

    Siege tower which drives

    Ballista operator

     

    Underground dwarven counterparts:

    Goblin crusher, a vehicle that perfectly fits a cave corridor and pushes forward while rolling over the goblin horde

    Boulder launcher, a nook at the top of an inclined corridor which fits a round boulder able to take out even larger enemies with its weight


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    Grymlorde

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    guess_the_crusader__by_grymlorde-d9jgi0z

    Guess the crusader!

     

    A WiP screenshot of the ERF for bog standard NWN showing five historical or pseudo-historical crusaders using nothing but plain vanilla content.

     

    Looking at the armoury, can you guess the crusading order? Some of these have multiple answers partly due to the limited art at my disposal, i.e. all crosses are "Latin."


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    Zwerkules

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    A WiP screenshot of the ERF for bog standard NWN showing five historical or pseudo-historical crusaders using nothing but plain vanilla content.


    Why do they wear sneakers? ;)
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    Was thinking of doing some ancient weapons of India for the Maldrapur Chronicles along with all the temples and ludicrously huge monsters and so on... (Kali needs a proper trishula if nothing else)...

    But now I've got heavily involved in two major non-NWN projects and my time has dwindled to a sort of infinitesimal blob at present, so I'll very likely not actually get around to sacred Hindu weapons any time soon...

    So I now ask myself why I even mentioned it?

    Moths! Moths must have got my brain!

     

    Not even a Chakram...? They'd be useful for priests of Shar.



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    Why do they wear sneakers? ;)

     

    Well, maaaaybbe, just maybe they are modern arab live roleplayers wearing christian crusaders armor and forgot about the shoes! Just saying maybe...! :)


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    16th_C_Spanish_Armor.jpg

     

    A 16th century Spanish breastplate. It's available for all sexes races and phenotypes. It doesn't works well with many of the NWN belt pieces, but I prefer to keep the original design....

     

    Spanish_Breastplate_s.jpg

     

    http://www.toledoswo...reastplate.html

     

     

    16th_C_Spanish_Armor_F.jpg

     

     

    16th_C_Spanish_Armor_M.jpg


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    Shemsu-Heru

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    Wheel-lock_pistol.jpg

     

    Here is the wheel-lock pistol, requested by TR. I have made two versions of the pistol, one as a light crossbow model and other as sling model...


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    @Shemsu, You are an officer and a gentleperson (I hate political correctness). The only pity is that there is only a like button when I wanted a really, really like button.

     

    TR


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    Thaks, TR!

     

    This community and their people are really, great ones. That is one of the main reasons why I'm still making NWN custom content....



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    Why do they wear sneakers? ;)

    @zwerkules,

     

    For a number of years I've admired your work on the tileset facelifts and in fact I incorporate most of them in my modules. You are a gifted modeler and I can only aspire to the level of your modeling. I, like most builders have to make do with the content available and can only create prefabs and modules. To submit anything to the CCC is for myself and other amateurs is quite intimidating given that we are "standing on the shoulders of giants."

     

    Therefore to receive a snarky comment from someone whose work I admire is downright disheartening. After all, if someone of your talents refuses to fix the models and textures available and would rather make fun of the attempts to make "lemonade out of lemons". . .why should I bother?

     

    Seriously. Why should I bother? Like most of us, I have a very busy life with work, family, and the holidays. I don't need one of the giants of the NWN CC community to make fun of my work.



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    @zwerkules,

     

    For a number of years I've admired your work on the tileset facelifts and in fact I incorporate most of them in my modules. You are a gifted modeler and I can only aspire to the level of your modeling. I, like most builders have to make do with the content available and can only create prefabs and modules. To submit anything to the CCC is for myself and other amateurs is quite intimidating given that we are "standing on the shoulders of giants."

     

    Therefore to receive a snarky comment from someone whose work I admire is downright disheartening. After all, if someone of your talents refuses to fix the models and textures available and would rather make fun of the attempts to make "lemonade out of lemons". . .why should I bother?

     

    Seriously. Why should I bother? Like most of us, I have a very busy life with work, family, and the holidays. I don't need one of the giants of the NWN CC community to make fun of my work.

     

    I read that as well-meaning light-hearted jest and never saw anything wrong with either your modelling/screenies or this comment.

     

    Three points. 1. Because despite having hopes and aspirations for breaking into the nwn 3D modelling department I haven't even managed to 'bake' a bunch of simple cookies in gmax so far, ANYONE who submits any CC (esp 3D CC) to these contests gets an automatic 'Wow! That dude is cool!' reaction from me. YOU are no exception - thought I'd let you know. :P   2. Using bits of text on the internet for communication is a perilous venture, easily prone to misreading. From all I've seen of the guy on these forums and in vault IRC, Zwerk making a 'snarky' comment would be rather out of character. 3. Throughout observed communications with Z and other legendary entities both here and IRC, it might be noted that poking fun at each other and, indeed themselves, in a totally relaxed and non-mean sort of way can at times be the norm.

     

    To sum up - don't take offense, since I'm pretty sure none was intended. :)


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    @Grymlorde - Meh, I highly doubt that Zwerkules meant that quite in the way you perceived it.  Really.  If I felt he did, I'd probably post to say that as well.  But that's just not my impression of him.  Some people in the community or on the Vault can be abrasive or passive-agressive or whatever, though.  In situations where that's the case, just ignore 'em, nomatter who they are.  You do the work for you and if anyone else likes it, that's gravy.  I also strongly believe in flipping off my monitor from several different locations in the room when my own advice fails me...and then loading up Max or the toolset and getting back to the grind.


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    @Grymlorde - I'm certain Zwerkules was joking hence the winky emoticon.  I was in a hurry and I hadn't actually read your post until now, I'd just looked at the pics.  I didn't even realize they were made with stock NWN models until now.  I liked how you worked with plain vanilla content here; with even those well used models, there are a huge combination of looks and colors, and people are bound to put together some cool stuff even after all this time.  The center one is really eye catching. 


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    @Grymlorde: lighten your heart. I am sure Zwerkules was just joking. But even, if it was not the case, use the input to better your creations. Doing anything custom, even a small thing is valuable. Your crusaders wear snickers... no problem... try to get them some poulaines ;-) and coconuts :-) Ah, sorry... No Montys in historically armors... Seriously, limited simultaneous colors in cloth/armors is a major annoyance.

    edit: playful cat got the chocolate :-) sneakers, sneakers, sneakers, sneakers... Please do pardon an old illiterate gnome monsignor...
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    I also strongly believe in flipping off my monitor from several different locations in the room when my own advice fails me...and then loading up Max or the toolset and getting back to the grind.

     

    Doing that today


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    @Grymlorde Please take no offence. It is common in small "closed" communities for such remarks to be made. It is called teasing. It is part of social bonding. Here follows an example.

     

    Your crusaders wear snickers... no problem...

    @CaveGnome - doesn't that leave chocolate footprints? Or did you mean sneakers? :whistle:

     

    TR


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