EA "REWARDS" ...
Not sure about buying DAI ... No problem ... EA values all their customers "equally".
Buy DAI NOW at the "no risk" bargain price of $15 !!!!
If you finish the 200 hour game and like it ... your previous $15 purchase is completely irrelevent.
As a "satisfied" loyal customer, you have earned the "privilege" to pay an additional $30 for 30 hours of DLC!!!
Price is no object to a true, 100% loyal Bioware customer.
Just to add my voice to this discussion. I bought the DAI Deluxe Edition, and it's crazy that there is no upgrade path to the GOTY edition. My only options, it seems, are to either buy all the DLC separately or buy the game a second time.
You offered a Standard Edition to Deluxe Edition upgrade, so why is there no Deluxe Edition to GOTY Edition upgrade?
What's particularly insulting about this situation is that someone buying the game today can pick up the whole GOTY Edition package for £29.99 whereas people like me who bought the Deluxe Edition on release for £64.99 must, even now, pay an additional (11.99+11.99+3.99+3.99+11.99=) £43.95 to get the same content.
My cheapest upgrade option is £29.99, i.e. buying the game a second time in GOTY Edition form. That is crazy.
With these kinds of practices all you are doing is punishing and insulting the people who paid full-price to buy your game on release. You are sending a clear message that buying your games on release is a foolish choice, and the wise choice is to just wait for the GOTY Edition. Is that really the message that you want to be sending?
Just to add my voice to this discussion. I bought the DAI Deluxe Edition, and it's crazy that there is no upgrade path to the GOTY edition. My only options, it seems, are to either buy all the DLC separately or buy the game a second time.
You offered a Standard Edition to Deluxe Edition upgrade, so why is there no Deluxe Edition to GOTY Edition upgrade?
What's particularly insulting about this situation is that someone buying the game today can pick up the whole GOTY Edition package for £29.99 whereas people like me who bought the Deluxe Edition on release for £64.99 must, even now, pay an additional (11.99+11.99+3.99+3.99+11.99=) £43.95 to get the same content.
My cheapest upgrade option is £29.99, i.e. buying the game a second time in GOTY Edition form. That is crazy.
With these kinds of practices all you are doing is punishing and insulting the people who paid full-price to buy your game on release. You are sending a clear message that buying your games on release is a foolish choice, and the wise choice is to just wait for the GOTY Edition. Is that really the message that you want to be sending?
You could also wait for a sale and get them for 30-50% off, though. They go on sale fairly frequently.
And once again, you, like everyone, are literally describing the logic behind GOTY editions released by every developer and publisher.
You buy the game and DLC at release, you pay full price and get to play it immediately. You wait for the GOTY, you save a ton of money at the cost of waiting to play it.
EA and Bioware aren't being evil in this particular case, they're being normal. Or, if you prefer, they're being equally as evil as Bethesda, or Ubisoft, or Warner Bros, or every single developer or publisher who has released a GOTY edition game in the last ten years. Again, wait for a decent sale.
You could also wait for a sale and get them for 30-50% off, though. They go on sale fairly frequently.
EA and Bioware aren't being evil in this particular case, they're being normal. Or, if you prefer, they're being equally as evil as Bethesda, or Ubisoft, or Warner Bros, or every single developer or publisher who has released a GOTY edition game in the last ten years. Again, wait for a decent sale.
The most I have seen the DLC occasionally discounted is 33.36% ($9.99 vs 14.99). Can you show proof that DLC has been discounted 50%?
Although EA is equally as evil as Bethesda (and both treat existing customers like ATMs) ...
CD PROJEKT RED (Witcher 3) and Obsidian (Pillars of Eternity) actually care about existing customers, and offer "season passes" where one can by all the DLC at a discount.
Just to add my voice to this discussion. I bought the DAI Deluxe Edition, and it's crazy that there is no upgrade path to the GOTY edition. My only options, it seems, are to either buy all the DLC separately or buy the game a second time.
You offered a Standard Edition to Deluxe Edition upgrade, so why is there no Deluxe Edition to GOTY Edition upgrade?
What's particularly insulting about this situation is that someone buying the game today can pick up the whole GOTY Edition package for £29.99 whereas people like me who bought the Deluxe Edition on release for £64.99 must, even now, pay an additional (11.99+11.99+3.99+3.99+11.99=) £43.95 to get the same content.
My cheapest upgrade option is £29.99, i.e. buying the game a second time in GOTY Edition form. That is crazy.
With these kinds of practices all you are doing is punishing and insulting the people who paid full-price to buy your game on release. You are sending a clear message that buying your games on release is a foolish choice, and the wise choice is to just wait for the GOTY Edition. Is that really the message that you want to be sending?
It gets more insulting ...
DAI PS4 (standard edition) is on sale for $7.99.
https://store.playst...AINQUISITION000
One DLC, when it is occasionally on sale costs $9.99.
How can a 200 hour game cost less than one 10 hour DLC?
The most I have seen the DLC occasionally discounted is 33.36% ($9.99 vs 14.99). Can you show proof that DLC has been discounted 50%?
No, because I don't closely monitor it. And because I understand opportunity costs, I bought the DLC as it came out because I wanted to play it, and instead of dropping 40-50 bucks in one shot, I dropped only 10-15 bucks in 3 installments over the course of many months (and I ignored the stuff I didn't want, which you're free to do as well).
If you buy it for 33% off, you still save $15 off the list price. That's something.
Although EA is equally as evil as Bethesda (and treat existing customers like ATM's), CD PROJEKT RED (Witcher 3) and Obsidian (Pillars of Eternity) actually care about existing customers. and "season passes" where one can by all the DLC at a discount.
EA offers season passes on other games. I don't know why they don't for Bioware. Maybe they will this time. And if they do, there will certainly be another faction of people excoriating them for doing something so consumer unfriendly as offering a season pass. I've seen it happen here
In any case, that that's only two developers. You need to indict every single developer who releases GOTY editions equally. You wouldn't want to be inconsistent, right? Because then it would seem like you haven't really thought this through, and people might not take you seriously.
It gets more insulting ...
DAI PS4 (standard edition) is on sale for $7.99.
https://store.playst...AINQUISITION000
One DLC, when it is occasionally on sale costs $9.99.
How can a 200 hour game cost less than one 10 hour DLC?
An year and a half old game goes on sale for a steep discount. Once you master the principle of GOTY editions, this one should be easy.
In any case, that that's only two developers. You need to indict every single developer who releases GOTY editions equally. You wouldn't want to be inconsistent, right? Because then it would seem like you haven't really thought this through, and people might not take you seriously.
*** Two swords and sorcery RPGs and DAI's current primary direct competition.
Should I take Bioware apologists seriously?
*** Two swords and sorcery RPG's and their current primary direct competition.
Should I take Bioware apologists seriously?
I point out something idiotic Bioware has done once or twice an hour. You just have an unreasonable position in this case.
And you're fooling yourself if you think Obsidian is anything resembling "primary and direct competition" for Bioware. If they were, they wouldn't be on Kickstarter. Which isn't meant as a slam against Obsidian, but just c'mon man. As for CDPR, you have half a point, but the Witcher is an action game with a fixed protagonist, and there are plenty who justifiably pass on it for those reasons. TW3 is probably the best game I've played in the last few years, but it's a bad RPG.
The current GOTY model makes as much sense as anything, and it's a steal for those who end up waiting for it. I've cashed in on plenty of games by waiting for the GOTY. It's endlessly preferable to a season pass, where there's no guarantee that you'll like what gets released (or even if they deliver).
Once again - opportunity cost.
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