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[ThomasBlaine]

It's only a matter of time - it's only taken a couple of hundred years on Earth for us to begin to trigger a mass extinction event, atmospheric damage and a warming climate; which, in the worst case scenario could lead to a a lack of a significant heat differential between the poles and the equator. This could, theoretically, cause a drop off in the Atlantic deep ocean currents and a stagnation of the ocean leading to a drop in water/oxygen levels (relatively warm stagnant water).

 

This is an ideal environment for purple bacteria - a lovely substance that produces sulphur as a metabolic by-product. This would slowly acidify the sea into a mild sulphuric acid which would be absorbed into the atmosphere through the normal water cycle - although perhaps more readily with a warmer environment. So, massive storms raining sulphuric acid down onto the land killing most plant life and ultimately destroying virtually all life as we know it on the planet... and we've not even got an escape plan yet.

 

Imagine what we can do with a billion years!*

 

Ok - the Reapers were harvesting advanced organic life across the galaxy due to flawed programming logic. Humans would just destroy life out of bumbling carelessness, greed and incompetence. Not sure which is worse really.

 

*thankfully we, as a species, won't last that long.

 

I love how people talk about turning three hundred years' worth of brilliant and unprecedented technological advancement and industry around on a dime and bankrupting half the world using horribly inefficient and unoptimized techniques we've only just developed because of information we've only accumulated in the last fifty as something we're complete idiots as a species not to have been prepared to do from the start.

[Cyonan]

You asked for it - now get the song out of your head!

 

 

I'm on a terrible phone connection at the moment, so YouTube is out for me till next week.

 

Though I recently saw Guardians of the Galaxy, and the intro song is already firmly lodged in my head =P

[MrMrPendragon]

Please Bioware, don't cater to others, cater to me instead.

/thread

 

Jeez this place is f*cking terrible

 

You could say this to every request thread in this entire forum. You might as well just shut this entire section.

[Cyonan]

Jeez this place is f*cking terrible

 

You could say this to every request thread in this entire forum. You might as well just shut this entire section.

 

Don't give them any ideas.

 

We already lost the off topic section.

[Applepie_Svk]

Don't give them any ideas.

 

We already lost the off topic section.

 

I believe that we already lost an old forum , even after years I still can´t adjust to this one. But yeah, the funny thing is that you can´t simply criticize, or you´ll paint a target on your head...

[Chealec]

I love how people talk about turning three hundred years' worth of brilliant and unprecedented technological advancement and industry around on a dime and bankrupting half the world using horribly inefficient and unoptimized techniques we've only just developed because of information we've only accumulated in the last fifty as something we're complete idiots as a species not to have been prepared to do from the start.

 

No, we're complete "idiots" because we're genetically programmed that way - like most other species on this planet; it's not really about the industrial revolution onwards - that's merely a matter of scale.

 

We breed because we must and we spread. We unthinkingly use up any and all resources in an area and so we fight to expand our territory and ensure a future for our offspring. In fighting we learn better ways to survive by destroying anything that threatens us. In surviving we adapt and evolve and, with humans, that's meant an evolutionary drive to intelligence - to build better ways of surviving and killing anything that threatens us. Other species have developed bigger horns, more aquadynamic bodies, shorter reproductive cycles, or impressive but impractical feathers (to attract the ladies).

 

Male lions kill other males and their cubs to gain control of the pride, dolphins kill porpoises and chimps have tribal wars... humans are no different except in methodology. We've developed bigger brains to better protect ourselves from the elements, from predators, and from each other. This has led us to where we are now ... where we've inadvertently (or deliberately) driven entire species to extinction and begun to actually damage the global ecosystem.

 

In ME:A we'll just be bringing these exact same traits to a new galaxy.

 

 

The Reapers however, are the opposite - they're designed to preserve organic data and diversity (apparently) and to do so they simply remove the most dangerous threats and put them in "cold storage" (Reapers); they remove those species that have technologically evolved to the point where they can inadvertently destroy many, or all, other species, they particularly target species who've developed AI technology which the Reapers view as the greatest threat to organic life.

 

So organic species are genetically programmed to survive and evolve at any cost - including driving other species to extinction. The Reapers are programmed to protect organic diversity overall - their methodology is just a bit flawed.

 

 

That's what I was driving at ... given a billion years humans (or any organic species) could easily outdo the damage done by the Reapers - even if they never intended to. The Reapers are no worse than humans - in fact it could be argued that, from a certain perspective, they're the good guys.

 

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[Cyonan]

I believe that we already lost an old forum , even after years I still can´t adjust to this one. But yeah, the funny thing is that you can´t simply criticize, or you´ll paint a target on your head...

 

I've criticized quite a bit over the years and I'm still around. I even only have 1 warning point, which was from a spam thread I made.

 

Maybe BioWare just loves me for my charm and wit =P

[Vortex13]

I've criticized quite a bit over the years and I'm still around. I even only have 1 warning point, which was from a spam thread I made.

 

Maybe BioWare just loves me for my charm and wit =P

 

 

I'm thinking its your avatar. No one can hate Kasumi.

[Cyonan]

I'm thinking its your avatar. No one can hate Kasumi.

 

There is that.

 

Kasumi is love. Kasumi is life.

[Vortex13]

There is that.

 

Kasumi is love. Kasumi is life.

 

 

I don't know about that   but she did help save the Hanar, so she's okay in my book.

[Akiza]

Realistically why could't Jowan just use a bit of blood from multiple people instead of milking Isolde dry?

because Orlesian blood is more insipid and will serve the purpose better.

seriously though i just think that blood magic doesn't work exactly just because is blood,it refers to pain and death,the more the pain the more powerful the magic can be.

[ThomasBlaine]

No, we're complete "idiots" because we're genetically programmed that way - like most other species on this planet; it's not really about the industrial revolution onwards - that's merely a matter of scale.

 

We breed because we must and we spread. We unthinkingly use up any and all resources in an area and so we fight to expand our territory and ensure a future for our offspring. In fighting we learn better ways to survive by destroying anything that threatens us. In surviving we adapt and evolve and, with humans, that's meant an evolutionary drive to intelligence - to build better ways of surviving and killing anything that threatens us. Other species have developed bigger horns, more aquadynamic bodies, shorter reproductive cycles, or impressive but impractical feathers (to attract the ladies).

 

Male lions kill other males and their cubs to gain control of the pride, dolphins kill porpoises and chimps have tribal wars... humans are no different except in methodology. We've developed bigger brains to better protect ourselves from the elements, from predators, and from each other. This has led us to where we are now ... where we've inadvertently (or deliberately) driven entire species to extinction and begun to actually damage the global ecosystem.

 

In ME:A we'll just be bringing these exact same traits to a new galaxy.

 

 

The Reapers however, are the opposite - they're designed to preserve organic data and diversity (apparently) and to do so they simply remove the most dangerous threats and put them in "cold storage" (Reapers); they remove those species that have technologically evolved to the point where they can inadvertently destroy many, or all, other species, they particularly target species who've developed AI technology which the Reapers view as the greatest threat to organic life.

 

So organic species are genetically programmed to survive and evolve at any cost - including driving other species to extinction. The Reapers are programmed to protect organic diversity overall - their methodology is just a bit flawed.

 

 

That's what I was driving at ... given a billion years humans (or any organic species) could easily outdo the damage done by the Reapers - even if they never intended to. The Reapers are no worse than humans - in fact it could be argued that, from a certain perspective, they're the good guys.

 

Refuse #1

 

Theoretically true, although the right technology would equally theoretically allow us and our Mass Effect counterpart to spur on life in much greater quantity than we've destroyed it. Playing video games isn't advantageous from a survival standpoint either, and we certainly seem to be getting the hang of that.

 

And as you are still alive presumably in part due to your own efforts and to the detriment of something else, talking like you do about your own species and its prospects for survival, and whether or not that survival is a desirable outcome, might be perceived as hypocritical.

[Erstus]

Including certain aspects for the sake appeasement and inclusion will always be detrimental to the story and overall setting - Avoiding certain aspects because it might offend some hypersensitive nancy will always be detrimental to the story and overall setting *cough* Inquisition *cough*

 

However, I also believe that if certain aspects are to be included they need to be done so in a quality manner. If it does not fit then don't force it.

[Chealec]

Theoretically true, although the right technology would equally theoretically allow us and our Mass Effect counterpart to spur on life in much greater quantity than we've destroyed it.

 
Never has done in the past

 

And as you are still alive presumably in part due to your own efforts and to the detriment of something else, talking like you do about your own species and its prospects for survival, and whether or not that survival is a desirable outcome, might be perceived as hypocritical.

There's no debate about the prospect for human survival - no species survives forever, the odds on us making it to a billion years are so statistically improbable it's not even worth debating. Best case scenario we'll evolve into something else.

I intend to have no part in the continuation of the species however.

[Ahglock]

I intend to have no part in the continuation of the species however.

The future seems brighter. I kid.

[Seraphim24]

 

This is Kasumi right? It's too bad I literally am basically incapable of getting DLC, otherwise she does seem.. well she seems kinda like a sith side NPC in SWTOR sorta I suppose.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's only a matter of time

That'd be cool.

Humanity cruising around the stars, killing everything that's inferior. Taking whats valuable.Acting out the God figure of the primitives. I'd be totally down for a intergalactic human Empire.

[fyz306903]

Violence is fine as long as it's not gratuitous. Showing gore becuase it creates a striking scene is good, doing it becuase 'HA! HA! it's BLOOD! I feel so mature because of all this violence! (Which ironically isn't mature at all) isn't good..

[ThomasBlaine]

 
Never has done in the past

 

We certainly have. There are plenty of examples of humans deliberately improving the conditions for both existing and potential animal life, just nowhere near on the same scale or with the same efficiency as we've killed yet, partially due to lack of understanding and tools and partially due to disinterest. Our potential for spreading and spurring on future lifeforms by improving the conditions for them with technology optimized for the purpose is literally infinite though. If we someday decide like you have that any amount of non-sentient life even vaguely approximates the importance of a single human one.

 

There's no debate about the prospect for human survival - no species survives forever, the odds on us making it to a billion years are so statistically improbable it's not even worth debating. Best case scenario we'll evolve into something else.

I intend to have no part in the continuation of the species however.

 

The statistical improbability of humans existing in the first place is also beyond debate. We've zero data about the long-term sustainability of species after they reach the point of sentience, much less colonization of space. Evolving "into something else" is obviously a possibility, but I don't see how that changes the facts.

 

One could also argue that your supposed refusal to try and contribute directly to the next generation in fact contributes indirectly to the long-term continuation of the species you so dread. So yeah. Way to take a stand, Alistair. It also doesn't make your continued effort to keep existing yourself while bemoaning the existence of humanity in general appear any less hypocritical.

 

I feel like we might be a little off-topic, though. Anybody annoyed by the conversation?

[Deebo305]

Please Bioware, don't cater to others, cater to me instead.

/thread

Literally 80% of threads are like that here anyway

On topic, going too dark and gruesome may hurt them since some older fan may not go for it. For imstant if ME did a torture scene like in GTA5 rather than punch him til he talks, some might say they went too far or why tge rest of the game isn't like that

I agree though, they should really amp it up abit for Andromeda, Bioware has played too safe and clean for awhile now

[Spacepunk01]

The PC police is everywhere these days. Unfortunately they've become powerful enough to intimidate developers. I hope that BioWare won't shy away from using particular story devices just because they're considered offensive by some people. If brutal violence serves a purpose, then it's legitimate to make use of it. If nudity makes sense at some point in the story, then show us nudity. 

 

I think game developers in general have to be brave. These people are artists after all (programmers, concept artists, musicians and directors). They should be given a great deal of freedom to express their creativity. Creative artists should see it as a duty to rebel against SJW's. The problem is that there's so much money involved that publishers are scared to death by the thought of bad publicity.

[rashie]

Literally 80% of threads are like that here anyway

On topic, going too dark and gruesome may hurt them since some older fan may not go for it. For imstant if ME did a torture scene like in GTA5 rather than punch him til he talks, some might say they went too far or why tge rest of the game isn't like that

I agree though, they should really amp it up abit for Andromeda, Bioware has played too safe and clean for awhile now

Important thing to note about GTA5 and that scene is the social commentary that Trevor does when you drive the poor sod to the airport afterwards, its still GTA but it isn't totally mindless either.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

@Commander RPG:

 

Your attempt is weak.  If there was the option to make skinny and muscular characters, then you'd have a point about not being able to make a fat character.  If there was the option to make white, latino, Arabic, etc characters but not African and Asian characters, then you'd have a point. 

 

But we're talking about a feature where there are choices for some and no choices for others.  When that happens, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that you'd also like to have a choice.

 

Don't try to make it more than it is.

 

Well to be fair you can make your PCs in Saints Row 3, Saints Row 4, and Fallout 4 skinny, muscular, and/or fat. I'm not sure if that will work in a game where you're supposed to play as a space marine.  

[Cyberstrike nTo]

The PC police is everywhere these days. Unfortunately they've become powerful enough to intimidate developers. I hope that BioWare won't shy away from using particular story devices just because they're considered offensive by some people. If brutal violence serves a purpose, then it's legitimate to make use of it. If nudity makes sense at some point in the story, then show us nudity. 

 

I think game developers in general have to be brave. These people are artists after all (programmers, concept artists, musicians and directors). They should be given a great deal of freedom to express their creativity. Creative artists should see it as a duty to rebel against SJW's. The problem is that there's so much money involved that publishers are scared to death by the thought of bad publicity.

 

I'm a proud SJW and I don't have a problem with that. In fact most real SJWs (and not the reactive idiots who don't even know what being a real SJW even means) are the most creative people who believe speaking truth to power. I would say that BioWare is one of the best video game companies because they do just that. 

[animedreamer]

I'm pretty sure its kind of late in the development cycle to think any request other than "Can I have hot pink as a customization color for the Mako?" and things of that nature to actually get considered. Story and all its branch elements would had to have been done by now or at least in the final stages. If you think about it such decisions would have to invented in the early planning stages of the game before the writers finalize their ideas of what should be happening in the game.

 

This also smacks of some of those crpgs or strategy games where no matter what you did, someone somewhere becomes apart of the opposition and the challenge still escalates. 

 

I for one trust BioWares ability to write a good story with many different branching elements that still bring you to the same climatic end that they had prepared. I doubt they are going to shake up the formula that much.