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[N-7]

Hey there fellow space travelers. Today I wanted to give you a head's up the research and development team at the Nasa Kennedy Space Center has annouced that FTL Travel is possible in the near future thanks to a revelutionary study done with Negative energy. This science has been proven that using negative energy in space and condensing it as a bubble around whatever is completely still in space will allowing a ship to bend space and travel FTL. Alfa Centaur is 4.3 Light years away. This technology is said to allow us to travel to Alfa Centaur in little as 2 weeks or less. We arn't to far off people. Mass Effect isn't just a scifi game anymore. Few years from now we will really be living the Mass Effect dream and visiting Andromeda someday. I think bioware was in on it Aha

 

Nasa's Discovery

http://www.space.com...paceflight.html

 

So no going and building you a ship called the normandy cause I got dibs on it ;D Wink! Wink!

Modifié par N-7, 11 décembre 2015 - 01:28 .

[Serza]

I find it curious you have opted to not provide a single source.

[N-7]

-Updated-

[Serza]

Cheers.

[N-7]

Anytime. Had to repost the link for some reason this site hates me today lol didnt want to load

[Kabooooom]

This is from 2012, and to my knowledge the proof-of-concept "tabletop" studies have not been validated or even really performed to the degree of scientific rigor that would be required for a claim such as this.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And this is neither evidence, or extraordinary.





That said, the reason they are investigating this in the first place is because the circumstances that enable this "FTL" travel derive naturally from general relativity. But for it to work, it requires exotic matter with exotic properties that may or may not exist.

So good luck, but to get to Alpha Centauri you are gonna need to hop on a generation ship for the foreseeable future.

[Arcian]

What's possible in math is not always possible in practice. Alcubierre knew this when he wrote his paper on warp travel, and remains today one of the skeptics most pessimistic about our odds of making warp travel feasible.

But a human can dream, can't it?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It won't matter. I'll be dead by the time this comes true..., if it comes true. 

[Serza]

It won't matter. I'll be dead by the time this comes true..., if it comes true. 

 

All of us will, unless they figure out how to prolong human life by a VERY significant amount. Which, in turn, would boost the neccessity for FTL travel and colonization, since overpopulation is already a thing in some places.

[rocklikeafool]

Yay, sometime...in the far future, this will be a reality. Seriously, it's not like they even have anything more than a basic theory. It's not like NASA is building a prototype. The proof is in the pudding, folks.

[pkypereira]

It will be at least 130 years before they find the Prothean Archives on Mars. At least we can rejoice in the fact that we wont have to live during the Reaper invasion in 2186.

[Kabooooom]

What's possible in math is not always possible in practice. Alcubierre knew this when he wrote his paper on warp travel, and remains today one of the skeptics most pessimistic about our odds of making warp travel feasible.

But a human can dream, can't it?

While this is true (for example string theory might be 100% bullsh!t with no bearing on reality whatsoever), general relativity is one of the most thoroughly tested and demonstrable theories in all of science. The Alcubierre drive relies on specific circumstances which may be impossible in nature, yes, but it demonstrates that if those circumstances exist, general relativity allows for it.

Or in other words, its not so much the math that is the issue. In fact, it is expressly because the math of such a rigorous and obviously correct theory allows it that it makes it so interesting and worth investigating. The problem is, you can push the equations of general relativity to the extreme and it doesn't mean that nature actually allows it to happen. That said, one of the most extreme outcomes of general relativity that there is - black holes - were first predicted and subsequently demonstrated to exist.

So while I am skeptical, I am skeptically optimistic.

[Arcian]

While this is true (for example string theory might be 100% bullsh!t with no bearing on reality whatsoever), general relativity is one of the most thoroughly tested and demonstrable theories in all of science. The Alcubierre drive relies on specific circumstances which may be impossible in nature, yes, but it demonstrates that if those circumstances exist, general relativity allows for it.

Or in other words, its not so much the math that is the issue. In fact, it is expressly because the math of such a rigorous and obviously correct theory allows it that it makes it so interesting and worth investigating. The problem is, you can push the equations of general relativity to the extreme and it doesn't mean that nature actually allows it to happen. That said, one of the most extreme outcomes of general relativity that there is - black holes - were first predicted and subsequently demonstrated to exist.

So while I am skeptical, I am skeptically optimistic.

If nothing else, humans have a penchant for finding windows when the universe closes doors. There is so much we have yet to discover about our universe - one of those discoveries could potentially lead to another form of FTL in case the warp drive doesn't pan out.

[N-7]

Just make sure everyone that your pilot's name is joker cause space travel just isnt the same

[LemurFromTheId]

"A warp drive may not be as unrealistic as once thought" ≠ "FTL travel is possible in the near future"

[N-7]

Anyone know about the Mars-One mission in 2025?

[Killdren88]

I like to think that after a species discovers FTL, they are welcomed into the galactic community.

[N-7]

I like to think that after a species discovers FTL, they are welcomed into the galactic community.

 

I wouldnt think it would work that way cause soon as a species discovers FTl travel a species in logic would want to explore the galaxy.

This is why on ME1's story of the first contact war. They would panic and wouldnt know what to think of the other race. Because of our

incomprehendable annology of space we would automatically assume that another race would be hostile. I percieve this to actual be in reality to just for

the idea that humans for example would assume the worst to boot. But after we get along and can perform to fuction with the galactic community

(proving ourselfs) im pretty sure we would be welcomed with open arms after. Just looking at it from a logical view.

[Master Warder Z_]

I wouldnt think it would work that way cause soon as a species discovers FTl travel a species in logic would want to explore the galaxy.
This is why on ME1's story of the first contact war. They would panic and wouldnt know what to think of the other race. Because of our
incomprehendable annology of space we would automatically assume that another race would be hostile. I percieve this to actual be in reality to just for
the idea that humans for example would assume the worst to boot. But after we get along and can perform to fuction with the galactic community
(proving ourselfs) im pretty sure we would be welcomed with open arms after. Just looking at it from a logical view.

Turians shot first, killed a bunch of people and then invaded a planet. I hardly would label that as 'humanities bad'.

[Killdren88]

Turians shot first, killed a bunch of people and then invaded a planet. I hardly would label that as 'humanities bad'.

Why did they attack? Just wanted a new space fairing race to have under their thumbs, but underestimated the humans?

[Heimdall]

Why did they attack? Just wanted a new space fairing race to have under their thumbs, but underestimated the humans?

Apparently they encountered a human ship trying to activate a dormant relay, which is illegal according to Citadel law for fear of opening a door to a hostile species like the Rachni (Which is how the Rachni Wars started).  Being unable to communicate, they opened fire to stop the humans and then invaded to establish a position of dominance from which to dictate terms to what they saw as a reckless species.

[Kalas Magnus]

Sounds cool.

 

i dont care much for nasa. but good for them.

 

hope we dont lead a rachni like specie back to earth.

[goishen]

This is from 2012, and to my knowledge the proof-of-concept "tabletop" studies have not been validated or even really performed to the degree of scientific rigor that would be required for a claim such as this.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And this is neither evidence, or extraordinary.





That said, the reason they are investigating this in the first place is because the circumstances that enable this "FTL" travel derive naturally from general relativity. But for it to work, it requires exotic matter with exotic properties that may or may not exist.

So good luck, but to get to Alpha Centauri you are gonna need to hop on a generation ship for the foreseeable future.

 

 

And this is why I don't like most sci fi.   Because when I look up at the stars blazing in the night sky, I know that I'm seeing light that is billions (if not trillions) of years old.  I mean, even our sun....  The light takes what?  Eight minutes to hit us?

[N-7]

I believe this whole idea of this is since Nasa discovered back in the 80's a radio wave signal from some planet located in the andromeda galaxy, was a distress call of a race of people screaming there planet was dying from nuclear war. Supposively nasa stated there technology was around what ours is on earth, they had space travel capabilities but not advanced enough for FTl long distance travel. But back in the 90's when this happen it disappeared as fast as it was discovered, and labeled galactic static, but yet it took 25yrs for them to discipher what the message was since it was codded in binary coding at the time. Nasa and the usa covered it up. So there is no know proof left found anywhere but documentary's on this event. Can find some stuff about it on youtube but no known official record of the disciphered message left anywhere. Probably in some Classified file locked in the vault with the rest of america's secrets, scams and lies.

[Kabooooom]

I believe this whole idea of this is since Nasa discovered back in the 80's a radio wave signal from some planet located in the andromeda galaxy, was a distress call of a race of people screaming there planet was dying from nuclear war. Supposively nasa stated there technology was around what ours is on earth, they had space travel capabilities but not advanced enough for FTl long distance travel. But back in the 90's when this happen it disappeared as fast as it was discovered, and labeled galactic static, but yet it took 25yrs for them to discipher what the message was since it was codded in binary coding at the time. Nasa and the usa covered it up. So there is no know proof left found anywhere but documentary's on this event. Can find some stuff about it on youtube but no known official record of the disciphered message left anywhere. Probably in some Classified file locked in the vault with the rest of america's secrets, scams and lies.

No, none of that happened.

And a basic understanding of high school level physics will tell you why we could never decipher a radio signal from Andromeda.