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One Year Later: Who did you really choose to rule Orlais?


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#26
d1ta

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Aka the only person who matters yes.


You're the only person who matters in your own world and other people matters in their own world =] yes, we could agree to that

But you did ask 'why rock the boat' in the first place, right? :P
That's more or less asking : "Why choose option A and not option B?"
At least that's the impression I got.

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Dabrikishaw

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Ingame I'd mostly pick the choice to blackmail all 3 into working together so I could get the Mask of the Grand Duchess for powergaming.

 

In the Dragon Age Keep I'll have Gaspard ruling alone.



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My preferred choice is Briala. It is, for me, the most difficult choice of the three, and I know it's the violent choice and probably will end up eventually backfiring, but I will never regret trying to make things better for the elves. I'm not convinced that Celene and Briala together creates real change for the elves. Seems like their relationship takes priority.



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I've done Celene and Celene/Briala.

 

I haven't the heart to put Gaspard on the throne, since it would mean standing by and allowing the assassination to go ahead, which really rankles.


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Celene and Briala together with Gaspard executed. I was rather pleased with the outcome (especially Briala being raised to noble status)...Celene is the political progressive and has proven herself a capable leader while Briala ensures that she also helps improving the lives of the elves. And playing as an elven inquisitor I simply didn't trust Gaspard to keep his word. He is a war mongerer and a racist who has already broke his oath of loyalty to Celene for no good reason. So what would he care about an oath made to an elf whom he thinks are below humans in the first place?
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They are all my *****es, but I guess with the Inquisition gone (disbanded) there's nothing to ensure they play nice with each other. 

 

You're welcome, Orlais. hyuk hyuk. 



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Celene/Briala, sometimes making three of them work together (though IMO that's a ticking time-bomb, more than C/B is, at any rate) and sometimes Celene alone.

 

Gaspard? Never. Not in my "decent" plathroughs at least.

 

Really, I see no reason to put him on the throne. People already have "a leader for difficult times" - which is Inquisitor, who just hand-picks who rules Orlais anyhow and has at least 3-4 years (1-2 years prior to Cory defeat and 2 after) to order people around and get the gist of the hardest work done to stabilize the region. Orlais needs calm heads and time to recover, not warmongerers with simplistic dreams to expand Empire via conquest.

 

As for Gaspard and Briala? ...Nope. Briala is charismatic and determined, but she's overzealous in her mission - if she's going to co-rule, she needs Celene to temper her down (while Celene needs her to be bolder with reforms). Besides, considering that we find out that she loses eluvian network and likely a lot of her spies to Solas, she's only really useful as inspiration for Celene to do better for elves (assuming optimistically that they wont' have a falling out) - because I don't predict that she'd survive long trying to control Gaspard, especially if more Orlais elves leave the country for whatever mysterious reasons draw them to some remote wilderness....



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Celene and Briala, though it makes me a bit sick inside.  TBH, all of the potential options make me a bit sick inside.  I like Briala the most of the three options, but she's volatile and sometimes reminds me of Anders in her attitude toward revolution  <_< As for Celene and Gaspard, they're interesting characters but despicable people.  Really, I wish I'd had the option to let Hakkon turn Orlais into the Inquisitor's personal skating rink  :rolleyes:



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In my first two games  I place Celene and Briala. Probably do the same in my current game.



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Celene/Briala leaves me rather torn. Their entire relationship is really gross when I step back and look at everything that went on in The Masked Empire so reuniting them is out of the question most of the time, but both are equally depraved people so it balances out whatever other negative feelings I would have had. In the end I'd only put them together if I was playing an elf AND I wanted to give up the Mask of the Grand Duchess.

 

Gaspard/Briala just won't survive post-Trespasser. Briala loses the Inquisition's massive power defense, and Solas takes the Eluvian network from her spies. She'll be a dead elf walking after that.



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Whichever sows the seeds of chaos in Orlais.
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Celene. She seems to understand that her country needs to help the Inquisition resolve the Cory threat, but that afterward, her country needs peace, peace to rebuild and strengthen to counter-balance Tevinter.



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oh yeah I do very much hate to stand by and watch Celene get killed. I HATE it. But Celene/Briala ... never, not gonna support an abusive relationship, Celene alone lead to a civil war, all 3 together .. i tried but .. meh ..something something too many cooks. I don't trust Briala enough to have her pull the strings.

 

Sooo there's that .. Gaspard rules. If he hurts my Alistair I'll personally come to make his life a living hell though.



#39
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Blackmail. I'm fine with either Gaspard or Briala in charge, but blackmailing them all is more satisfactory. I'll be damned if I ever support Celene, or worse, reunite her with Briala.

 

I like to see it from the position of a Marcher that dislikes Orlais and wants to see its government tear itself apart. The next best thing is having the three vipers stuck together like the stooges. 



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So some of you are remarking about the Celene/Briala relationship. I've never taken that choice in the game. Is it implied that they are back together in a romantic sense? I would find that difficult to believe after everything that happened...

 

I dislike how Gaspard was characterized in the game, as I rather liked him in The Masked Empire. But after learning that he favors expansionism, including back into Ferelden, and knowing that picking him would force me to allow Celene to be assassinated, I just can't make that choice. I choose the trio because, to my Inquisitor, it seems like the best choice at the time. Celene has the nobles, Gaspard is a strong military leader, and Briala reins in the elves; the region is stabilized. It is only later on that my Inquisitor realizes that it might have been a mistake to pick the three, instead of a single, strong, undisputed leader.



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Trio.

If those fools end up killing each other later. Welp not his problem.


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So some of you are remarking about the Celene/Briala relationship. I've never taken that choice in the game. Is it implied that they are back together in a romantic sense? I would find that difficult to believe after everything that happened...

 

They're Orlesians. Anything goes with that lot. 



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Yes, it's strongly implied Celene and Briala are back together. Very strongly.

I never saw their relationship as abusive, however. Founded on lies? Absolutely. But if they can get past that hurdle, then I have no qualms putting them back together for the good of Orlais and the elves.
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#44
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Celene alone.

 

I wanted Celene/Briala but i had no idea what i was doing so i followed a walkthrough and had to go with the result that the person got.

 

Briala was exiled and Gaspard was killed.



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I forced them into cooperation just for sake of trolling them. I think neither option will bring peace and stability to Orlais anyway. And I don't really care about consequences of this decision (to quote Czech poet and anarchist Gellner: "After us let the floods come!").



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LorenzEffect

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Yes, it's strongly implied Celene and Briala are back together. Very strongly.

I never saw their relationship as abusive, however. Founded on lies? Absolutely. But if they can get past that hurdle, then I have no qualms putting them back together for the good of Orlais and the elves.

Have you read The Masked Empire?

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thats1evildude

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I sure did, and that's the basis of the whole "Founded on lies" thing I mentioned. Still not a abusive relationship.

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I sure did, and that's the basis of the whole "Founded on lies" thing I mentioned. Still not a abusive relationship.

 

Maybe not abusive, but without a doubt, utterly sick and repulsive. One that supports this kind of relationship might as well try to flirt with Howe as an Cousland.



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I think from the point of view of the Inquisition, Gaspard alone is a better choice. If he's not lying about who he is, then you've got a strong personal ally. If he is, his hold on power will always be a bit tenuous, and that's only good news for the Inquisition. A strong Orlais is bad for your future. Which ends up being irrelevant in Trespasser, but still.

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I've tried a bunch of different options and forcomg all 3 to work together is definitely my favourite.

It's what they should've been doing in the first place instead of playing their idiotic games whilst the world burns.

The Game is ridiculous. Let them learn a better way or let their infighting cause their system to crumble.

I might've been okay with Gaspard rule since he does destroy the game, but after what we learn in the dark future letting Celene die is an absolute no-no (yes I know in meta-game turna it makes no difference but it still seems a bonehead decision in-game).
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