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[loyallyroyal]

 

DAI-Da4: "We want the Inquisitor back!  The story's not done!  We don't want to play some nobody with no connection to Solas!"

 

I guess we should give the team credit for living up to the phrase "Always leave the audience wanting more"   

 

It would have been so easy to write the Inquisitor off into the distance though. All they had to do was have Solas be cryptic about ending the world, have him reveal he is the dreadwolf and tell us he is off to save his people. Let us wish him well and let us go back to the Inquisition. No secret meetings in Haven, no I'm off to save the world again.

 

Start next game, throw in some codices about what the Inquisition is up to in the South, and everyone is happy because of course the Inquisitor is busy running the Inquisition, they don't have time to deal with slave uprisings or whatever else in Tevinter.

 

I think most of us were ready to be done after the main game, but Trespasser opened up story possibilities that got everyone really excited to play as the Inquisitor again. Personally, I was soo excited after seeing everyone back in Haven, planning to go after Solas, and stabbing the map I would hate to think all of that is going on and we are going to be stuck playing another person again.    

 

 

[wright1978]

I wouldn't go that far.

 

I would, not object, however, to advancing the timeline to a point where al our previous characters are too old to go adventuring anymore.

 

But then I suppose there'd be the crowd declaring they'd use blood magic/Avernus's experiments to lengthen their lives.

 

Yeah i'd have no issues with advancing the timeline.

[AresKeith]

It would have been so easy to write the Inquisitor off into the distance though. All they had to do was have Solas be cryptic about ending the world, have him reveal he is the dreadwolf and tell us he is off to save his people. Let us wish him well and let us go back to the Inquisition. No secret meetings in Haven, no I'm off to save the world again.

 

Start next game, throw in some codices about what the Inquisition is up to in the South, and everyone is happy because of course the Inquisitor is busy running the Inquisition, they don't have time to deal with slave uprisings or whatever else in Tevinter.

 

I think most of us were ready to be done after the main game, but Trespasser opened up story possibilities that got everyone really excited to play as the Inquisitor again. Personally, I was soo excited after seeing everyone back in Haven, planning to go after Solas, and stabbing the map I would hate to think all of that is going on and we are going to be stuck playing another person again.    

 

Every Dragon Age game has technically done that.

 

DAO: Morrigan hints at something in Witch Hunt

 

DA2: Corypheus with Legacy and now DAI with Solas and Trespasser 

 

The only really difference is that Solas was upfront with what's going to happen

[Abyss108]

There's a big difference between cryptically hinting about the next game, and outright stating it, then having the protagonist swear they will stop it.

[AresKeith]

There's a big difference between cryptically hinting about the next game, and outright stating it, then having the protagonist swear they will stop it.

 

A protagonist who also stated "we find people he doesn't know"   

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[Abyss108]

 

A protagonist who also stated "we find people he doesn't know"   

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She can do both, they don't contradict each other. She never stated she wanted new people to replace herself with. She needs new people for when she needs eyes in places Solas might be watching, not to take over her job of leading the forces against him, or plotting how to take him down.

 

[AresKeith]

She can do both, they don't contradict each other. She never stated she wanted new people to replace herself with. She needs new people for when she needs eyes in places Solas might be watching, not to take over her job of leading the forces against him, or plotting how to take him down.

 

 

And considering that Solas would be watching the Inquisitor if they are leading the group against him.....

[Abyss108]

And considering that Solas would be watching the Inquisitor if they are leading the group against him.....

 

Not if he doesn't know where she is. I doubt she's going to announce her location until she's ready for an all out battle.

[AresKeith]

Not if he doesn't know where she is. I doubt she's going to announce her location until she's ready for an all out battle.

 

Solas has had spies within the Inquisition from the beginning, including a spy close to Leliana

 

He very well can know where the Inquisitor is especially if he still has spies within

[Marika Haliwell]

Some of us don't want a new story, with completely new companions and a blank slate? Why would that appeal when I've got so much invested from years of gameplay across three previous plotlines? I want this current tale to be finished (with Inquisitor) before introducing something else yet again - and finished properly. Because right now, it isn't. 

 

And, a lot of us like the  'baggage' from previous stories. I actually am not sure what this is? The history of what happened makes things far more interesting and meaningful. Also, a lot of us like our former protagonists and would like to know what happened to them. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

Whether we get to see any of this in the future is another matter. 

It's enough to look at Cullen's story arc. In DAO I wanted badly that he and my mage could be a couple but when i played DAI and i romanced him with my mage Inquisitor I had no problem thinking that he finally found someone for himself even if it wasn't Amell. I don't see how a new PC could fit into all DAI left unfinished. Make it duo playable characters or make DAI part two ; i don't want a new PC . I was all about bring back HOF but now i could say ' if i can't have my HOF give me my Quizzy!

[Abyss108]

Solas has had spies within the Inquisition from the beginning, including a spy close to Leliana

 

He very well can know where the Inquisitor is especially if he still has spies within

 

That's why you get a choice at the end of the game which specifically tells you it will affect what advantage Solas' spies have against you, and why the Inquisitor is working underground with just Cassandra, Leiliana and Harding no matter what choice you pick. You are not in Skyhold, with the rest of the Inquisition.

[AresKeith]

That's why you get a choice at the end of the game which specifically tells you it will affect what advantage Solas' spies have against you, and why the Inquisitor is working underground with just Cassandra, Leiliana and Harding no matter what choice you pick. You are not in Skyhold, with the rest of the Inquisition.

 

It said nothing against his spies but the effort against him specifically, it does speak about risking corruption or being more secure but neither of those guarantee a strong defence against Solas' spies easily infiltrating   

[Abyss108]

It said nothing against his spies but the effort against him specifically, it does speak about risking corruption or being more secure but neither of those guarantee a strong defence against Solas' spies easily infiltrating   

 

Check Dragon Age keep! It specifically says keeping the Inquisition increases the chance of Solas' spies infiltrating the organisation.

[hoechlbear]

People assume the new protagonist will "rise to crazy levels of power" because it's going to be another "save the world from destruction" story and the antagonist has "crazy levels of power." How else are you going to defeat him? Brilliant strategy? Yeah right like BioWare will write that. You know we're going to bludgeon him with brute force. There are already way too many famous, uber powerful world saving heroes in Thedas at one time, we really don't need another one. I doubt DA4 is going to have a smaller scale, especially after they set Solas up as the next world killing villain.

 

We don't even know what DA4 will be about. Solas may be in the background for the most part of the game, so there's plenty of time to tell a more personal story in the meantime. There could be a way of making Solas more weak in order to defeat him without you being a God yourself, kind of like Harry and Voldemort's horcruxes. We never know what Bioware will come up with next. Personally I don't believe we will have another protagonist as powerful as the Inquisitor but that's just my opinion (or maybe wishful thinking, I don't know).

[greenbrownblue]

 

A protagonist who also stated "we find people he doesn't know"   

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I understood it as "I am gonna find new companions and agents".

[greenbrownblue]

We don't even know what DA4 will be about. Solas may be in the background for the most part of the game, so there's plenty of time to tell a more personal story in the meantime. There could be a way of making Solas more weak in order to defeat him without you being a God yourself, kind of like Harry and Voldemort's horcruxes. We never know what Bioware will come up with next. Personally I don't believe we will have another protagonist as powerful as the Inquisitor but that's just my opinion (or maybe wishful thinking, I don't know).

Yeah, I feel it will be like Mass Effect 1. Shepard is supposed to defeat Saren (Solas), but there is also that other huge problem - the Reapers (titans/Evanuris). 

[AresKeith]

I understood it as "I am gonna find new companions and agents".

 

Finding new companions wouldn't make things unpredictable when the Inquisitor him/herself is still there doing things

 

Along with bringing up the issue of juggling past romances with new ones
 

[greenbrownblue]

It said nothing against his spies but the effort against him specifically, it does speak about risking corruption or being more secure but neither of those guarantee a strong defence against Solas' spies easily infiltrating   

Actually Cassandra says "maintaining the Inquisition, even as a peacekeeping force, leaves us vulnerable to the agents of  the Dread Wolf", or something like that. It is an obvious consequence of not disbanding the Inquisition. 

[AresKeith]

Actually Cassandra says "meaintaining the Inquisition, even as a peacekeeping force, leave is vulnerable to agent of  the Drad Wolf". It is an obvious consequence of not disbanding the Inquisition. 

 

And a disbanded Inquisition will also run into problems due to smaller effort being used against Solas 

[greenbrownblue]

Finding new companions wouldn't make things unpredictable when the Inquisitor him/herself is still there doing things

 

Along with bringing up the issue of juggling past romances with new ones
 

Why not? New companions mean new possibilities and the same protagonist means a connection with Solas that someone else would not have. Moreover, Inquisitor says that he/she wants to prove Solas that he does not need to destroy "this world" (redeem option) and Solas answers something like "I would treasure the chance to be wrong once again, my friend". So it feels like the game won't be only about unpredictably beating Solas' ass, but also about trying to save him, which only a friend would care to do. Oh, not to mention that Solas always says things like "you keep surprising me blabla".
I sincerely hope that there is actually a way to restore the elves (or/and spirits according to my theory - http://forum.bioware...rld-has-to-die/) and at the same time do not destroy everybody in the process.

[greenbrownblue]

And a disbanded Inquisition will also run into problems due to smaller effort being used against Solas 

True, but at least you can save him. Imo, he deserves it. 

[greenbrownblue]

And a disbanded Inquisition will also run into problems due to smaller effort being used against Solas 

Hum, I think we are trying to prove each other wrong, but the truth is that Bioware left itself  an open door. In DAO the protagonist can die, in DA2 there is only one race, and DAI is the only game that can be continued. We already talked about the interview witth Gaider who said that the arc was divided to two parts because it covered too much story.

[AresKeith]

Hum, I think we are trying to prove each other wrong, but the truth is that Bioware left itself  an open door. In DAO the protagonist can die, in DA2 there is only one race, and DAI is the only game that can be continued. We already talked about the interview witth Gaider who said that the arc was divided to two parts because it covered too much story.

 

And I fully expect that the Inquisitor will return, however I don't see them returning as the main protagonist

 

What I see possibly happening is duo protagonist but with the new PC getting the most focus similar to Geralt and Ciri in TW3

[Nefla]

I understood it as "I am gonna find new companions and agents".

Same here.

 

Finding new companions wouldn't make things unpredictable when the Inquisitor him/herself is still there doing things

 

Along with bringing up the issue of juggling past romances with new ones
 

Solas isn't nearly as smart and wise as he thinks he is. The only thing he's been able to accurately predict is that the inquisitor would follow the obvious Qunari corpse and blood trail, but as has been said before: anyone would have done so. The romances do present a problem though. Personally I'd be fine with no romances (maybe a letter or a mention here or there if you romanced someone in the previous game) if it meant a better story but I know a lot of people wouldn't feel the same.

[greenbrownblue]

And I fully expect that the Inquisitor will return, however I don't see them returning as the main protagonist

 

What I see possibly happening is duo protagonist but with the new PC getting the most focus similar to Geralt and Ciri in TW3

Ugh, I consider dual protagonist a minimum. It would be such a waste of an opportunity to keep the protagonist :/ .