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[Al Foley]

I admire your passion for your Inquisitor and his story

For me, I would gladly accept my Inquisitor as a counselor or mentor for the new hero for I like this idea.

Funny that would happen considering my first Inquisitor I based on Obi-Wan.

[Zafireria]

Funny that would happen considering my first Inquisitor I based on Obi-Wan.

May the Marker be with you

[ZhengAn]

Yeah, I know. As I wrote in my previous post a second ago. I did not come here to debate anything (the arm for example). I clearly stated that this thread is for Inquisitor fans and that it exists so everybody who agrees with the idea of bringing back the Inquisitor could write a kind comment to support the cause. It was also supposed to inform that it would be great if we could all use one hashtag.
I saw some articles about bringing back the Inquisitor, some threads, but I have not yet found a website that could promote the idea. So I am not being repetetive. There are not many topics like "Hey, I created a website, I have an idea for a hashtag, I want to collect your friendly comments and it would be great if you could vote for the Inquisitor". You know what I mean?

 I understand your reasons, appreciate your effort on the website and to voice out your opinion. But my thoughts are,

 

What is the vote for? The website is titled 'bring back the inquisitor', and the link is posted in a 'to all fans who want the inquisitor to be protagonist' thread. The vote is obviously biased, for the sources of the votes are more limited to pro-inquisitors visitors. If I were bioware, I won't take reference at this vote.

 

Secondly, debate and opposing comments will appear in this thread no matter what, and it's better to have them because reasonable opposing opinions bring perspectives and in-depth discussion, hence, bring up more supporting arguments for your stance. A welcome attitude is better than a simple 'no, get out of this thread'.

 

It seems to me, IMHO----sorry, but let's be straight, that a website is too over because I'm sure that bioware has noted the on-going debate among the fans in BSN. This, what you are doing, are not just threads discussing and debating, but I fear will put too much pressure on Bioware, or even level up the whole bring-or-not-bring-back debate, if the website is successful. Edited: My bad.

 

But that's just my opinion. You are free to voice out your opinion as a consumer.  Sorry if I'm overacted. 

Modifié par ZhengAn, 05 décembre 2015 - 02:45 .

[Al Foley]

May the Marker be with you

I suppose i would have to name one of my DA 4 Inquisitor's Luke. Though I doubt Ben will be my canon Inquisitor so we'll see. 

[greenbrownblue]

Why the negativity?  

Or seen the slide in Trespasser which shows Inquisitor with crossbow arm.  

Exactly! May the force be with u ! Especially during the premiere of Star Wars The Force Awakens ))))) !

[Al Foley]

Exactly! May the force be with u ! Especially during the premiere of Star Wars The Force Awakens ))))) !

I entered the omaze thing so really need the Force, a lot of it. *crosses fingers and toes*  Right now watching Phantom Menace which I just bought the six movies on blu ray.  

 

And just to be clear...I want the Inquisitor in DA 4 but I do not think that is the direction BioWare will take it so I am not expecting it.  I just am curious to see the bashing over a difference of opinion/ a unique stance on this issue, which yours is. 

[greenbrownblue]

 I understand your reasons, appreciate your effort on the website and to voice out your opinion. But my thoughts are,

 

What is the vote for? The website is titled 'bring back the inquisitor', and the link is posted in a 'to all fans who want the inquisitor to be protagonist' thread. The vote is obviously biased, for the sources of the votes are more limited to pro-inquisitors visitors. If I were bioware, I won't take reference at this vote.

 

Secondly, debate and opposing comments will appear in this thread no matter what, and it's better to have them because reasonable opposing opinions bring perspectives and in-depth discussion, hence, bring up more supporting arguments for your stance. A welcome attitude is better than a simple 'no, get out of this thread'.

 

It seems to me, IMHO----sorry, but let's be straight, that a website is too over because I'm sure that bioware has noted the on-going debate among the fans in BSN. This, what you are doing, are not just threads discussing and debating, but I fear will put too much pressure on Bioware, or even level up the whole bring-or-not-bring-back debate, if the website is successful.

 

But that's just my opinion. You are free to voice out your opinion as a consumer.  Sorry if I'm overacted. 

The website is greenbrownblue... But I agree with you that it is biased. I want it to be. Tbh, originally, there was supposed to be no "someone else" button (because it goes against promoting #BringBackTheInquisitor), only a button to count the number of ppl who visited the page and want the Inquisitor to be the protagonist.
You really suffer some depression-related negative thinking. I really hope that Bioware fans do not sit quietly without creating fan vids, fan blogs, fan websites, fan art, etc. It would make the community lesser...

[Shizukai]

Funny that would happen considering my first Inquisitor I based on Obi-Wan.

 

Funny indeed

Nice, you got a character concept in your mind while creating and playing. I like that.

 

I really do think something like this is going to happen. 

You already got three counselors in DAI, it is a nice and working concept I enjoyed.

[Al Foley]

Funny indeed

Nice, you got a character concept in your mind while creating and playing. I like that.

 

I really do think something like this is going to happen. 

You already got three counselors in DAI, it is a nice and working concept I enjoyed.

Oh since my Shepard's I always try and have a character idea in mind before I start playing a character.  Of course this does depend on what BioWare does for their canon and I always try and match my canon to theirs.  The idea for my...well Female Inquisitor/ Canon Inquisitor changed greatly pre game to when the game came out and I started playing it.  Though Ben pretty much stayed the same. 

[ZhengAn]

You really suffer some depression-related negative thinking. I really hope that Bioware fans do not sit quietly without creating fan vids, fan blogs, fan websites, fan art, etc. It would make the community lesser...

 

Wow wow, don't force that on me. I never meant that.

 

What I'm saying is, bioware has noted the fierce debate on forums, and must have understood the different opinions. The word 'OVER' I meant I feel a website (and the call for 'Write tweets to @ bioware and @ dragonage together )for this request is a bit, IMHO again, over...well, forgive my english, but I hope you understand what I mean. But yeah, I said that without noticing the website is your website, but not a website specificly made for bring-back. My bad. So, apologizes.

[Zafireria]

I suppose i would have to name one of my DA 4 Inquisitor's Luke. Though I doubt Ben will be my canon Inquisitor so we'll see. 

Should we ever get the option to have children in DA, you know what to do  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

I guess all the people who think you can't be an action protagonist with one arm have never seen Mad Max or Star Wars... Or haven't seen the design pictures where it was fully considered for Iron Bull to have one arm, or read the comic where somebody lost an arm and then grew it back with magic!

 

Inquisitor for DA4 please!  

Or the Fullmetal Alchemist franchise, which had multiple characters with prosthetic limbs still able to be heroes. 

[NKnight7]

One armed protagonists work, or one armed characters in general work. Look at The Walking Dead and Merle Dixon.

 

[thats1evildude]

Well, on the plus side, at least this is better than endless threads asking to bring back the Warden.

One armed protagonists work, or one armed characters in general work. Look at The Walking Dead and Merle Dixon.

He's dead now. And that arm was **** at killing anything except walkers.

[Dai Grepher]

I want the Inquisitor to return in the next game, but as a companion character at most, not as a primary character. So does that count as wanting a dual protagonist?

[BansheeOwnage]

Dude, if it is annoying then do not come here to spread your negativity. Really, no need.

I agree. I've never been bothered by repeating threads, unless they're spammed by the same person. I suppose they could annoy some people, but do they really annoy them enough that it's worth taking the time to write a negative comment in the thread rather than simply ignore it?

 

A couple other factors here are:

 

1. It's worth noting that a lot (most?) of the "duplicate" threads have already died out, and since we're not supposed to necro threads, well...

 

2. Related to the above, there are such things as new forum-goers, who may not have any idea how much something has already been discussed. Cut them some slack.

 

3. DA:I and all of its DLC is out, and it will be at least 2 years before the next game. So I understand that there isn't much to discuss anymore and I really don't mind repeated topics. That's just me though.

 

 

The same thing happened with DA2 and the unending mage/templar debate, and some of the other hot-button DA2 issues -- "all bi" romances, the dialogue wheel, paraphrases, etc. I've gotta hand it to the devs though... they actually did pop in on many of the dialogue threads, even if it was to reiterate some of their previous statements. Of course, they don't come here anymore because they were abused, and we clearly showed we couldn't have nice things, so that's the end of that.

A few bad people ruin it for everyone else. Story of the freaking universe, right there.

[BansheeOwnage]

I want the Inquisitor to return in the next game, but as a companion character at most, not as a primary character. So does that count as wanting a dual protagonist?

Not quite, no. Dual protagonists means both would be playable characters.

[almasy87]

You have my vote

As others have mentioned, it is pointless to add a choice at the end about whether to redeem or kill Solas, if it doesn't follow through..
What if my Inquisitor chose redeem, and then the new "Tevinter" guy just goes like "lol nope, I'm gonna kill you!". That would make no sense!

And it's not like the Inquisitor can make a cameo and just "order" the new guy to redeem or kill Solas.
"Hey, you will redeem him, ok? You have absolutely no choice in this matter because I decided so at the end of the last game!"...   

A new character may never even care about Solas and just see him as a crazy guy who needs to die.. While the Inquisitor was given a choice regarding what to do with Solas, exactly because they have gotten to know him better.

I wouldn't want this "connection" (let's call it this way, whether it's love or friendship or hate) between Solas and the Inquisitor to be lessened or even more so made completely irrelevant by the new character's lack of knowledge :S

If what I wrote even makes sense.. 

[Al Foley]

One armed protagonists work, or one armed characters in general work. Look at The Walking Dead and Merle Dixon.

 

 

Except he was a flaming racist a hole.  

You have my vote

As others have mentioned, it is pointless to add a choice at the end about whether to redeem or kill Solas, if it doesn't follow through..
What if my Inquisitor chose redeem, and then the new "Tevinter" guy just goes like "lol nope, I'm gonna kill you!". That would make no sense!

And it's not like the Inquisitor can make a cameo and just "order" the new guy to redeem or kill Solas.
"Hey, you will redeem him, ok? You have absolutely no choice in this matter because I decided so at the end of the last game!"...   

A new character may never even care about Solas and just see him as a crazy guy who needs to die.. While the Inquisitor was given a choice regarding what to do with Solas, exactly because they have gotten to know him better.

I wouldn't want this "connection" (let's call it this way, whether it's love or friendship or hate) between Solas and the Inquisitor to be lessened or even more so made completely irrelevant by the new character's lack of knowledge :S

If what I wrote even makes sense.. 

It would make perfect sense?  IDK but the new protag has to have some way of being able to make the decision on their own based on their own information.  Solas's plan will be Solas's plan.  Whether or not the plan makes sense to redeem him or stop him depends greatly on the morality of the player/ character involved.

[Almostfaceman]

It's interesting that people don't see the potential to invest more in the character because they lost a hand. Someone mentioned Luke Skywalker... but there's another example in another Bioware game - Shepard. Bioware made this evident when they "screwed the pooch" in killing Sheperd - he/she lost their scars. I saw this a lot on the forums. A lot of people wanted their scars back. I think I've even seen mods for this. Scars invested a person in their character in ME1. They could make up in their head "yeah, he/she got this chin scar diving into a fox hole on Elysium" or whatever.

The loss of the hand connects people to the character of the Inquisitor. That may be why some are so adamant that the Inquisitor is "retired"... because that's what that injury means to them.

I could go either way, I see potential in just about any character nuance to be made into an interesting character arc and be a part of an fascinating story. I lean towards carrying the main protagonist over, because I enjoyed it with Shepard. 

 

I think that Bioware left a pretty large clue that they ARE going to carry over the Inquisitor for the next game because they capture a very specific "end-state" for the Inquisition and how they will approach Solas in the future. 

 

 

[AresKeith]

 

I think that Bioware left a pretty large clue that they ARE going to carry over the Inquisitor for the next game because they capture a very specific "end-state" for the Inquisition and how they will approach Solas in the future. 

 

 

 

SOme of acknowledge this, which is why we also feel they could go the duo protagonist route 

[LightningPoodle]

That "evidence" isn't evidence that the Inquisitor will be playable though. Don't get me wrong, I fully expect the Inquisitor to make an appearance. More than an appearance actually. I think we'll be playing as someone whom the Inquisitor has recruited for the specific task of tracking and finding Solas. That would mean the Inquisitor is the one giving us our orders, and so is in essence, the one who will find Solas. We'd just be playing as their arm.

Playing as the Inquisitor though won't happen. Small scenes like CDPRed did with Ciri in The Witcher 3, I can see happening. A full story though? Nope. Why would BioWare constrict themselves in such a way? Especially when Dragon Age is supposed to be about the world and not the character. Each installment in the franchise had allowed BioWare to craft a completely new story, with a completely new protagonist and allow for a whole array of new and exciting things to happen. This works because the two main things are brand new. BioWare won't change that. That's part of their business model for this franchise. It's the foundation this franchise rests upon.

[Almostfaceman]

. BioWare won't change that. That's part of their business model for this franchise. It's the foundation this franchise rests upon.

 

I don't know, if Hawke had been more popular their plan was to use him/her as the Inquisitor. So, it seems they're open to possibilities in making the story interesting for fans through a variety of story telling methods. We'll see. 

 

Weekes said (somewhere) that the next game will wrap up the Solas story. With this strong hint that the Inquisition is going to be involved in wrapping up the story, I'd be surprised if our Inquisitor wasn't a playable character somewhere in there. That seems to be the direction they're leaning in this time around. The ending cinematic leaves the Inquisitor involved, plotting in some dark room with a map. Interesting stuff. 

[LightningPoodle]

But again, that is not evidence that they will be playable. The Inquisitor will be involved, yes. That does not mean the Inquisitor will be the star of the show. Maybe they take a more behind the scenes role, only showing their face half a dozen times during the story. Maybe they're an advisor we can go to at any moment in the game. Maybe they're somewhere else in Thedas, and we (as players) only see them during brief, maybe playable scenes; but both are looking for Solas, following whatever clues and leads they can find.

There are a lot of ways they can include the Inquisitor. A lot of them, I think, would make for a far better experience than just having the Inquisitor be playable again.

You also have to remember, each installment brings in new players who haven't played a BioWare or a Dragon Age game before. Having the Inquisitor be the protagonist is going to require a lot of explanation for new players to process, most of which I think would be difficult to understand without knowing what happened in Inquisition. A new protagonist for a new player would cut a lot of that out.

[DebatableBubble]

I don't know. I hate Star Wars.

Out.