I feel like it was a missed story opportunity. It made sense because your squad were around reaper tech just as much as Shepard was. It would of been one of the best ways to stop Shepard imo. Could you imagine if one of the Mass Effect 1 squad got indoctrinated like Garrus? Like he could of started to show signs of indoctrination by sympathising with the reapers and you slowly see his descent into full indoctrination and betrayals you. Then you were basically forced to kill him would of been heart breaking. I personally would of made it Garrus as he is most Shepard's closest friend.
Why didn't the reapers indoctrinated one of your squad members?
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Posté 05 décembre 2015 - 10:54
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Garrus is the only squadmate that can be with Shepard for nearly the whole trilogy. He was exposed to reaper tech as much as Shepard except the Arrival dlc, which is optional. So if there was that possibility to have a squadmate being indoctrinated, Garrus would be the most likely
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Posté 14 décembre 2015 - 04:05
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I think the problem with that would be that nobody would like someone like Garrus betray you 
They tried something like that with TIM, but it was a bit to obvious imo. Wouldn't have minded to shoot some of my least favourite teammates though. Like Miranda or Jacob 
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Posté 14 décembre 2015 - 04:10
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Yeah, Bio didn't have the guts for that.
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Posté 14 décembre 2015 - 04:12
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Yeah, Bio didn't have the guts for that.
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 01:50
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Probably because people would have raged about their favorite character becoming an indoctrinated Judas. Bioware usually tries to play it safe with their writing, the ending to ME3 being a notable exception. I don't think the devs would have had the guts to do it with someone like Garrus.
It might have been interesting if they did it with one of the new characters as well, like Vega or Traynor.
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 01:54
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It might have been interesting if they did it with one of the new characters as well, like Vega or Traynor.
What explanation would you give for Traynor being indoctrinated?
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 01:56
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What explanation would you give for Traynor being indoctrinated?
Any character could be made indoctrinated. It would just have required a backstory that put them into contact with Reaper tech prior to ME3. There's a six month gap between ME2 and ME3 if I remember correctly, and with new characters you basically have a blank slate before ME3.
Although on second thought Traynor would probably be a poor choice, because she's a LI for FemShep and a same sex one at that. FemShep already gets shafted (Thane dies, Jacob cheats, ect), and making the first lesbian LI a traitor wouldn't be a good PR move. If they were going to make one of the new characters indoctrinated, Vega would probably be a better choice.
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 02:06
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If they were going to make one of the new characters indoctrinated, Vega would probably be a better choice.
He already was 
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 03:38
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What explanation would you give for Traynor being indoctrinated?
Her toothbrush was made from Reaper tech
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 03:53
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Her toothbrush was made from Reaper tech
I guess everyone that has the same toothbrush is indoctrinated as well.
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 05:29
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I guess everyone that has the same toothbrush is indoctrinated as well.
How do you think TIM got indoctrinated?
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 05:31
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How do you think TIM got indoctrinated?
Not from a cison Pro Mark 4 toothbrush
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 05:41
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Garrus is the only squadmate that can be with Shepard for nearly the whole trilogy. He was exposed to reaper tech as much as Shepard except the Arrival dlc, which is optional. So if there was that possibility to have a squadmate being indoctrinated, Garrus would be the most likely
Oh god no, not Garrus. You're breaking my heart here. I mean great for the story and all but I don't think I could take it lol.
If one is able to be indoctrinated then you'd start looking at everyone with suspicion and it'd colour your view of everyone. You'd start being super paranoid about every interaction with every squad mate.
What if there was a lesser crew member you weren't quite as close with, for example someone on the B team like Steve who could or could not be indoctrinated depending on your choices. They could fall like TIM and become a desperate figure no one can trust anymore, or be stopped from it ever happening and continue to be a valued member of the crew?
I feel that would lend itself more to multiple playthroughs than one character always being indoctrinated every time with no way to stop it.
shrug ... just an idea.
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Posté 15 décembre 2015 - 07:00
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Posté 16 décembre 2015 - 02:51
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Wouldn't really add very much. Killing someone off just for the sake of killing them off to try and elicit an emotional responds is a fairly weak story telling idea.
Sudden unexpected death would cause more problems then solve. And the build up to the point were you would have to kill them would be so obvious it would be less emotional responds and more "Ok so when do I shoot XXXX in the head"
Morlan's death has emotional and dramatic effect. You either spend your time trying your best to change his mind. Or supporting him in his effort to cure the Genophage. Your final act to support him or stop him is very emotional. As you watch him smiling and singing on his walk towards death and fixing his mistake. Or you watch him bleeding out dragging himself to the console Your final act to prevent it from being cured being to shoot him.
Indoctrination would just be waiting and waiting and waiting for the obvious and only choice to put a bullet between the eye.
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Posté 18 décembre 2015 - 03:08
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I feel like it was a missed story opportunity. It made sense because your squad were around reaper tech just as much as Shepard was. It would of been one of the best ways to stop Shepard imo. Could you imagine if one of the Mass Effect 1 squad got indoctrinated like Garrus? Like he could of started to show signs of indoctrination by sympathising with the reapers and you slowly see his descent into full indoctrination and betrayals you. Then you were basically forced to kill him would of been heart breaking. I personally would of made it Garrus as he is most Shepard's closest friend.
Depends on the player with Garrus if you cheat on liara or Ashley it makes great sense but for me having Tali indoctrinated and babbling before I had to put her down like an animal would've hurt a lot more.
