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[SentinelMacDeath]

I wouldn't have sex with a horse in a fictional universe either.

 

Sex with a consenting, intelligent, humanoid alien race? Absolutely.

[PCThug]

I think it's funny that people are glad Casey is gone. Mass Effect wouldn't even have existed without him.

And I thank him for having the initial idea and some of his other contributions (*looks pointedly at the Starchild*). But Mass Effect has had a lot of different people contributing to it creatively over the years and I don't think can be seen as any one person's "creation." Time has shown us that original creators can be a burden for an IP that has outgrown them. And new people can bring some great ideas and viewpoints to the table.

[Pasquale1234]

As far as I'm aware, this is only ever invoked in that one weird "bachelor party scene," and I'd be very surprised if it's not something that's either actively retconned or simply just never acknowledged going forward. Asari are asari, and they look like asari.

If that was actually an intended feature / characteristic of the species, I'd expect it would have been presented in all 3 games and mentioned in the codex.

As it stands, it was just a bachelor party beer goggles joke.

[JosieRevisited]

 

 Earthworms aren't gendered yet they self-mate.  Bacteria aren't gendered but they can replicate directly via fission, OR they can share some genetic material with some other bacteria and produce a mixed off-spring bacteria from there.  

 

Earthworms are hermaphrodites. Bacteria are prokaryotes - nowhere near the scale of complex humanoid creatures (neither are the worms, for that matter).  How is either example relevant? 

 

Here's a more relevant example: Teiidae. 

 

Incidentally, this is always what I thought the designer of this particular species was going for with the Asari, especially with the reptilian features. It just screamed to me a thought process like, "What if this cool kind of lizard actually evolved to a humanoid form? What might they be like?" And there's the Asari. Exceptionally hot, using internal crossovers to reproduce, and after a heck of a lot of evolution the eventual ability to 'mate' with anything and everything to steal bits of our DNA. 

 

Seriously, if you are at all interested in this stuff, go read about those lizards. You'll see the parallels with what we know about Asari. 

[FKA_Servo]

If that was actually an intended feature / characteristic of the species, I'd expect it would have been presented in all 3 games and mentioned in the codex.

As it stands, it was just a bachelor party beer goggles joke.

 

Ouch...

 

See, when you say flat out it's a beer goggles joke, I totally see it. But I've assumed all this time that it was a legitimate lore expansion regarding the asari. I don't think I'm the only one.

 

I really don't know if not getting the joke is worse than assuming they're not joking, though. They have ideas.

[Pasquale1234]

Ouch...
 
See, when you say flat out it's a beer goggles joke, I totally see it. But I've assumed all this time that it was a legitimate lore expansion regarding the asari. I don't think I'm the only one.
 
I really don't know if not getting the joke is worse than assuming they're not joking, though. They have ideas.

Sorry to burst your theory.

But if you listen to the conversation, it's pretty clear they're talking about the asari as they're presented in-game. Blue skin, the human explains that the little divot in her abdomen is a belly button, etc.



It sure sounds like beer goggles to me.

[FKA_Servo]

Sorry to burst your theory.

 

Don't be. You've set me free.

[straykat]

And I thank him for having the initial idea and some of his other contributions (*looks pointedly at the Starchild*). But Mass Effect has had a lot of different people contributing to it creatively over the years and I don't think can be seen as any one person's "creation." Time has shown us that original creators can be a burden for an IP that has outgrown them. And new people can bring some great ideas and viewpoints to the table.

 

I commend the artists and developers a lot, but I'd say my two favorite writers don't even work there now either.

[SentinelMacDeath]

Sorry to burst your theory.

But if you listen to the conversation, it's pretty clear they're talking about the asari as they're presented in-game. Blue skin, the human explains that the little divot in her abdomen is a belly button, etc.



It sure sounds like beer goggles to me.

 

but the theory would make the Asari much much muuuuuuuuch more interesting 

[Undead Han]

They AREN'T gendered.  Earthworms aren't gendered yet they self-mate.  Bacteria aren't gendered but they can replicate directly via fission, OR they can share some genetic material with some other bacteria and produce a mixed off-spring bacteria from there.  The only reason most people THINK Liara and the others are female is because the modelers gave them boobs and womanly curves.  They could just as well have made them look like Hanar and with a voice of no identifiable gender.  You wouldn't then be able to claim "they're all females because they only have one gender and it makes babies directly".  Not how it works.  Gender only works as a label when there is another gender to differentiate it from. 

 

There is a species of whiptail lizard that is entirely female and reproduces by parthenogenesis, so it isn't quite true that you can't have a species that only has a single biological sex. At any rate, the Asari being female is canon and not just a fan assumption based on their similar appearance to human females. They are described as an all female species in the codex.

 

The desert grassland whiptail lizard (Aspidoscelis uniparens) is an all-female species of reptiles. It was formerly placed in the genus Cnemidophorus. A. uniparens have limited social stimuli, having only two basic needs: finding food and avoiding predators.[2] A common predator of the whiptail lizard is the leopard lizard, that prey on A. uniparens by using ambush and stalk haunting tactics.[3][4][5] These reptiles reproduce by parthenogenesis. In this procees, eggs undergo a chromosome doubling after meiosis and developing into lizards without being fertilized. However, ovulation is enhanced by female-female courtship and "mating" (pseudo-copulation) rituals that resemble the behavior of closely related species that reproduce sexually.

 

Desert Grassland Whiptail Lizard

 

Nature is often as bizarre as anything from the imagination of Science Fiction writers.

[KainD]

It's an immersion breaking thing.  

 

Think this way:  

 

You and this girl are friends, been friends for a long time, do things together, have a good time.  You have ZERO romantic feelings for her. She's like a sister to you.  One night she flirts/makes a move on you.  Oops. She clearly is into you in a way that you are not into her. That doesn't just turn off.  It's not a switch.  You are not going to remain friends like you were. Impossible. She's embarrassed and perhaps hurt, still pining away for you. You have no interest. 

 

The end.  Works the other way around. I CANNOT be friends with a girl I want but who doesn't want me back. I WANT to make it go romantic, I WANT it to be romantic, she's interested in some other guy.  Can't go on being "buddies" because that is ALWAYS sitting there.  I cannot just switch it off, no one can.  The relationship changes in an instant and cannot recover to what it was.  

 

Doing that with a character in a game where you were otherwise immersed, breaks it.  It's not "realistic" to think you can just say "no" and all's well.  The bag was dropped right there at your feet and cannot undrop.

 

It's a matter of writing and making sure choices are clearer BEFORE you get to points you didn't want.  It's just a game, sure, but while you're playing it, if it is written and graphic'd well, it takes you into it to some extent.  Getting kicked out of it is...not fun.  Is disruptive.  It's survivable, sure, but it isn't necessary.

 

Nah, don't talk for everybody, it's perfectly possible for some people.

[Rannik]

Porn has sexual tension?

 

The good one, yes.

[prosthetic soul]

To be fair, pre-rejecting people is one of my favorite hobbies

 

And those people probably don't spend their free time on game message boards. I'm just saying...

 

It sounds so uncomplicated in the land of Bang-Or-Useless-To-Me

courting =/= rutting

 

Nice try. 

[SentinelMacDeath]

The good one, yes.

 

who's watching porn for the sexual tension though? 

[Lady Artifice]

who's watching porn for the sexual tension though? 

 

Also, does good porn earn the right to be called erotica instead? 

[SentinelMacDeath]

Also, does good porn earn the right to be called erotica instead? 

 

I'd vote yes

[vbibbi]

I thought the difference was more that erotica doesn't actually depict the act of sex, it's more suggestive, while porn is blatant sex.