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[daveliam]

So to change subject slightly:

 

What approach do you think ME:A is going to take with romances?  Bioware has taken a bunch of approaches in the past:

• All bisexual LI's
• Varied sexuality among the LI's
• Squad only romances
• Squad and NPC romances

My gut is that they'll borrow from the DA: I approach.  I suspect that there will be a variety among the LI sexualities (with at least two options for straight/gay men/women).  I also suspect that they'll have both squad and NPC romances.

 

The question remains, will they have skewed romance numbers for different PC demographics?  Given the franchise's history, I'd say that it's likely that there will be more than two options for straight guys and that they will receive more options than the other demographics. 

 

So maybe, 7 or 8 romances?  2 straight women, 1-2 straight men, 1 bisexual woman, 1 bisexual man, 1 lesbian, and 1 gay man would be my guess.

[vbibbi]

So to change subject slightly:

 

What approach do you think ME:A is going to take with romances?  Bioware has taken a bunch of approaches in the past:

• All bisexual LI's
• Varied sexuality among the LI's
• Squad only romances
• Squad and NPC romances

My gut is that they'll borrow from the DA: I approach.  I suspect that there will be a variety among the LI sexualities (with at least two options for straight/gay men/women).  I also suspect that they'll have both squad and NPC romances.

 

The question remains, will they have skewed romance numbers for different PC demographics?  Given the franchise's history, I'd say that it's likely that there will be more than two options for straight guys and that they will receive more options than the other demographics. 

 

So maybe, 7 or 8 romances?  2 straight women, 1-2 straight men, 1 bisexual woman, 1 bisexual man, 1 lesbian, and 1 gay man would be my guess.

ME has always been more hetero inclined than DA, so I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio isn't a clear 2-2-2. And if there were more NPC romances. It's hard to say until we learn how many squadmates will be in the game. Plus is the base going to be another ship or is it going to be a colony? If we have a colony as a hub, I could see a lot more NPC romances.

[Getorex]

I had someone in the friendzone for about four years. It was a great friendship, most likely the best I´ve ever had and ever will have.

I made myself clear several times, but still the other person didn´t want to break off the friendship and I was certainly too selfish to break it off myself. 

The draw back for me was that no one else dared to approach me during those years.

 

Still, a great time and now I´m wiser.

 

And the other got screwed to make you feel better about yourself.

 

The idea that the rejectee should suck up their being rejected, feeling dejected, STILL wanting and hoping for more and hurting for it in the privacy of their heart and mind, and continue "just being friends" so YOU can feel better for having a friend isn't selfish at all but if that person bugs out because they do not WANT to feel the constant rejection to a constant desire IS selfish. 

 

The selfishness only flows one way, I guess.

[Fredward]

That's not what the friend zone is, though. The friend zone is when a person obfuscates their lack of interest in order to keep an interested other person on the hook, for one reason or another.

A friend of mine was kept in the friend zone for over two years because he was letting her live in his house rent-free. It took a serious toll on him. Of course, you could argue that he should have realized she wasn't interested a lot sooner, and you'd be right. But some people are blinded by love-goggles, and my friend has love-goggles the size of Texas. So the responsible thing for her to do would have been to tell him to his face that it was never gonna happen, which of course she never did, even after moving out.

Of course, men do this too and it's just as bad when that happens.

 

Your friend was/is gullible and she was manipulative and opportunistic, these qualities exist outside and independently of the concept of the 'friendzone.' It's not a meaningful descriptor at best and at worst any women who is not romantically interested in a man who is interested in her has 'friendzoned' him.
 

[Panda]

So to change subject slightly:

 

What approach do you think ME:A is going to take with romances?  Bioware has taken a bunch of approaches in the past:

• All bisexual LI's
• Varied sexuality among the LI's
• Squad only romances
• Squad and NPC romances

My gut is that they'll borrow from the DA: I approach.  I suspect that there will be a variety among the LI sexualities (with at least two options for straight/gay men/women).  I also suspect that they'll have both squad and NPC romances.

 

The question remains, will they have skewed romance numbers for different PC demographics?  Given the franchise's history, I'd say that it's likely that there will be more than two options for straight guys and that they will receive more options than the other demographics. 

 

So maybe, 7 or 8 romances?  2 straight women, 1-2 straight men, 1 bisexual woman, 1 bisexual man, 1 lesbian, and 1 gay man would be my guess.

 

DAI's approach is ideal to me, well if we are ignoring race gating and that one demograph got more options than others. I'd like to see varied sexualities, I'd be fine with all bisexual, but I think for BW's characters having varied sexualities works best. I wasn't too interested of NPC romances in Mass Effect series, but I think they were fine in DAI- if there is non-squadmate as romance option they should have big part in the game and crew otherwise like advisors in DAI had.

 

I'd hope approach where everyone got equal numbers of romances. 2/2/2 would be probably best, though 2/4/2 is even better. I'm not expecting that we have that many romances though since according to leak it doesn't seem that we will have that many squadmates and though there might be romanceable NPCs I doubt there is going to be that many.

 

So 2/2/2 with varied sexualities and it doesn't matter if it's only squadmates or NPCs also if NPCs are as important characters as squadmates in the game.

[AlanC9]

Yeah, I imagine that they'll do 2-2-2. And really 2-2-2; the late DAI adds were good in themselves, but I'm not sure the tidal wave of butthurt from straight males who thought they were being discriminated against is something Bio wants to repeat

[vbibbi]

A follow up question would be: if it's going to be a 2-2-2 split, what will the human-to-alien-LI ratio be? Will it be one human and one alien for each sexuality? I would personally be annoyed if my preferred LI options were both aliens. I prefer human LIs as an option. Conversely, I could see others upset if they only have human options.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

So you only go for those NOT worth it? You don't work for it? Don't put in effort?

I fight for a woman I believe to be worth the effort, like a normal person. A boyfriend is irrelevant to that. If I can get her from her boyfriend then they weren't really together were they? Who gives a crap about him?

Or her feelings in the matter apparently.

[Panda]

A follow up question would be: if it's going to be a 2-2-2 split, what will the human-to-alien-LI ratio be? Will it be one human and one alien for each sexuality? I would personally be annoyed if my preferred LI options were both aliens. I prefer human LIs as an option. Conversely, I could see others upset if they only have human options.

 

I'm hoping lot of aliens myself. I get the point though. I'm expecting that everyone has at least 1 human option, but I'd love if there was aliens for everyone as well. And there hasn't been gaylien yet during the whole series so I'd think it's time to have gaylien in the game.

[Getorex]

Or her feelings in the matter apparently.

 

You live in a fantasy world. If I win her from her boyfriend, it was via her feelings.  They weren't forced on her, they come FROM her. We're not talking caveman, I walk in, hit the boyfriend on the head with a club, grab the girl and drag her kicking and screaming from her boyfriend.

 

Some of ya'll are truly innocent children or deluded shut-ins.

[Shechinah]

I'm hoping lot of aliens myself. I get the point though. I'm expecting that everyone has at least 1 human option, but I'd love if there was aliens for everyone as well. And there hasn't been gaylien yet during the whole series so I'd think it's time to have gaylien in the game.

 

Gaylien. I like that word; gaylien. I think it's the sound of it especially if you say it somewhat quickly. 
 

[SentinelMacDeath]

You live in a fantasy world. If I win her from her boyfriend, it was via her feelings.  They weren't forced on her, they come FROM her. We're not talking caveman, I walk in, hit the boyfriend on the head with a club, grab the girl and drag her kicking and screaming from her boyfriend.

 

Some of ya'll are truly innocent children or deluded shut-ins.

 

And we're coming full circle to women being a price that can be won and handed from one man to another. Do everyone a favor and don't date ever. 

 

As for the friendzone, it's usually guys (there are some girls too not gonna lie) crying over it. A woman shuts romantic advances down but the guy thinks, by being nice (you should always be nice not just because you want to get into someone's pants) they can overrule the decision that was made. At some point this whole spiel always turns sour and the "friendzoned" person does a 180 and cusses out their former love interest, while boosting his/her own ego by saying how nice and perfect he/she is and how the former love interest only ever dates the unworthy. It's getting so old.

 

Clearly, there are people that abuse others and string them along because they are selfish but those are the minority.

 

I'd like the 2-2-2 split for love interests but I usually only ever pick one or 2 favorites and I romance those in all my play throughs (1 straight option for my female character and 1 gay option for my male character) 

[Cyonan]

You live in a fantasy world. If I win her from her boyfriend, it was via her feelings.  They weren't forced on her, they come FROM her. We're not talking caveman, I walk in, hit the boyfriend on the head with a club, grab the girl and drag her kicking and screaming from her boyfriend.

 

Some of ya'll are truly innocent children or deluded shut-ins.

 

If they're the kind of person who will end a relationship to be with you, they're the kind of person who will in the future end your relationship to be with somebody else.

 

So they aren't worth going after in the first place.

[9TailsFox]

A follow up question would be: if it's going to be a 2-2-2 split, what will the human-to-alien-LI ratio be? Will it be one human and one alien for each sexuality? I would personally be annoyed if my preferred LI options were both aliens. I prefer human LIs as an option. Conversely, I could see others upset if they only have human options.

very good point. I am one who want amount of humans companions to be  as low as possible 0 is best number, I am tired of this human master race is special. We going't to new galaxy I want to meet new aliens and they join our team. So looks like you and I want absolutely different thinks.

[Ahglock]

very good point. I am one who want amount of humans companions to be as low as possible 0 is best number, I am tired of this human master race is special. We going't to new galaxy I want to meet new aliens and they join our team. So looks like you and I want absolutely different thinks.

Look, don't try to fight reality. Humanity #1.

[pdusen]

That is nice for the person who thought they got a new friend.

So what, now we owe friendship to the people who reject us romantically? What are you even on about?

[pdusen]

And those people probably don't spend their free time on game message boards. I'm just saying...

I feel like this was a dig at me, but I'm not sure how to respond because it makes no sense. Care to elaborate?

[SentinelMacDeath]

So what, now we owe friendship to the people who reject us romantically? What are you even on about?

there are people who feign friendship in order to get to the romantic part, the instant they get turned down they vanish out of your life. Pretty terrible imho. 

[vbibbi]

I feel like this was a dig at me, but I'm not sure how to respond because it makes no sense. Care to elaborate?

Meh, just that we are all on a forum discussing games that we play, so I don't think any of us need to take discussions of friendships and relationships that seriously. What is the goal of these discussions, to convince someone to behave differently in the real world to people they are romantically interested in?

 

And it seems a bit closed minded to ignore the possibility of a new friendship just because you're not specifically in the market for new friends. So if someone turns down a romantic proposal they should automatically be ignored, then? That seems a petty and immature response to rejection.

[Cyonan]

there are people who feign friendship in order to get to the romantic part, the instant they get turned down they vanish out of your life. Pretty terrible imho. 

 

In some cases the person who expressed romantic interest simply doesn't want to be in a relationship where they have romantic feelings for somebody who doesn't return them. It can be better to simply end it rather than let it continue as that's a really crappy situation to be in and can even hinder your ability to move on and find somebody who does have feelings for you. That doesn't make them a terrible person to do that just because they started things off on a friendly note.

 

but there should be no complaining about a friend zone. You either were too cowardly to tell them your true feelings or you did and you got rejected.

[Lonely Heart Poet]

double post

[Lonely Heart Poet]

The only crime happening here is that you skipped Mass Effect 2.

Kaidan still can be your ultimate bro no matter of his feelings. I thought that Kaidan was gay the moment I saw him. Sometimes sexual orientation is not clear even for the person himself but it can be much clearer to others. Kaidan's face model is also openly gay, I think they wanted to respect that in Bioware.

[Fixers0]

O joy this again, you know these threads would be almost fun if they weren't partially responsible for romance quotas actually being introduced in game studios, among others.

 

 Kaidan's face model is also openly gay

 

Wat?

[AlanC9]

Yep. Just Google Kaidan Alenko face model.

[SentinelMacDeath]

O joy this again, you know these threads would be almost fun if they weren't partially responsible for romance quotas actually being introduced in game studios, among others.

 

 

Wat?

 

Luciano Costa is gay (also ridiculously good looking)