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[Zafireria]

Greetings!

 

Apologize the weird title but I wasn't sure if it would have been considered spoiler so yeah.

 

Soon I have to endure that dreadful break up scene with Solas and I am not sure which option to take, anger or sadness. I have seen each version on youtube but still I can't quite decide.

You see, I am a bit of a role-player and I want the options to mean something to Solas. Now in the angry version he looks heartbroken in the end, but I am not sure what message that sends, does it make my rogue elf seems like a b*itch he shouldn't waste his time on because she acted like that? Considering he did say "It'll be kinder in the long run" about the romance. Or will he see it has a heart-shattering moment for him that his heart is angry at him and that her broke her heart?

The sad version makes her seem a bit like she might crawl on her knees begging him not to leave. Also what does Solas think of it? Does it hurt more on him than the angry version or does he think that she is pathetic? 

 

I am aware that no option affects anything, he will break up no matter what. But, I just like role-playing and I not sure what message the option says. To be honest I'll love if Patrick Weekes would reply about what he believe would make Solas really regret his decision as well as wanting her even more, but I think that is more of wish thinking. Tho doesn't hurt hoping

 

But yeah, what did you guys choose and why? What do you think the option sends of a message? 

 

[Abyss108]

Personally, I prefer the angry version of the scene, but you get a better line at the end of the game if you are sad...

 

I always go angry in Trespasser though! I like the sad version, but I love shouting in angry Elvhen too much! 

 

I don't think it will affect anything later on, even Solas himself admits you have every right to be angry at him for it! 

[Zafireria]

Personally, I prefer the angry version of the scene, but you get a better line at the end of the game if you are sad...

 

I always go angry in Trespasser though! I like the sad version, but I love shouting in angry Elvhen too much! 

 

I don't think it will affect anything later on, even Solas himself admits you have every right to be angry at him for it! 

 

Yeah the "You are a marvellous spirit, in another world" ? Its a good line, really is, just not sure its fits or have a huge effect on Solas in terms of being very heartbroken and just want her even more.

 

XD I have seen the scene tho I still need to get it translated. Do you know what she says?

 

No it doesn't effect anything except some few dialogues. I am just thinking role-playing here

[Dai Grepher]

Depends on your Dalish female. Mine would probably react angrily if she were in love with him because he would have wasted her time. More so if she is convinced to remove her vallaslin. However if she doesn't really feel that much for him, then she'll probably just let him end it and not really care about it.

 

I haven't gotten anywhere near this part of the game with mine yet, so I don't know what I'll do with her. But she won't blubber about it, that's for sure.

 

So again, it all depends on your Dalish female's personality. Does she really love Solas, or not? Does she react with sorrow or anger? I guess that depends what kind of a life she led.

 

Mine is a mage who had to dodge templars and look out for her clan. Oh, I guess it depends if your clan is still alive or not too. My Dalish female's clan is alive. She is a necromancer who venerates Falon'Din. So she might actually not like Solas that much, but more or less see him as an interesting and worthy mate. She might look at it more logically than passionately. Depends on Solas' personality and if it fits with hers. I somehow doubt that it will. In that case she'll not care if he leaves, and might look down on him for leaving, like he wasn't worthy after all.

 

Either way, once she finds out about the evanuris, I will headcanon that she will seek out Falon'Din and attempt to side with him as his willing thrall, or perhaps more.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

I try to stay true to how I think my character would react to any situation regardless of how any follower may respond, but I do have my favorites. In the Crestwood scene with Solas, I prefer my character to be the one to walk away and there is only one scene that gives her that option. I'm not fond of the part where she shoves him, but people do things when they're angry and hurt that they later regret, so it still works. I feel like in the other options she is either too lacking in emotion or acting too much like a victim.

Trespasser is different, there are two options I really like that work for my strong character, the one where she speaks in elven and brings up his trust issues followed by the sexy stare pause, and the one where she says her people were wrong about Fen'Harel. The option where she makes a comment about the Dread Wolf taking her sounds too whiney to me. I'm a big Solavellan fan, so I never take options to tell him that it's over or that she will kill him.

[Zafireria]

Depends on your Dalish female. Mine would probably react angrily if she were in love with him because he would have wasted her time. More so if she is convinced to remove her vallaslin. However if she doesn't really feel that much for him, then she'll probably just let him end it and not really care about it.

 

I haven't gotten anywhere near this part of the game with mine yet, so I don't know what I'll do with her. But she won't blubber about it, that's for sure.

 

So again, it all depends on your Dalish female's personality. Does she really love Solas, or not? Does she react with sorrow or anger? I guess that depends what kind of a life she led.

 

Mine is a mage who had to dodge templars and look out for her clan. Oh, I guess it depends if your clan is still alive or not too. My Dalish female's clan is alive. She is a necromancer who venerates Falon'Din. So she might actually not like Solas that much, but more or less see him as an interesting and worthy mate. She might look at it more logically than passionately. Depends on Solas' personality and if it fits with hers. I somehow doubt that it will. In that case she'll not care if he leaves, and might look down on him for leaving, like he wasn't worthy after all.

 

Either way, once she finds out about the evanuris, I will headcanon that she will seek out Falon'Din and attempt to side with him as his willing thrall, or perhaps more.

 

My Dalish rogue is the kind who cares about people but isn't afraid to make a hard choice if she believes its for the best, tho she doesn't always like the choices she has to make. She believes in the elven gods. I am not actually sure about her clan o.O I think they are alive and well, I remember saying she might go back sometimes in the options, and I faintly remember the mission on the war table, but yeah. Also she loves Solas more than she can say, she is willing to sacrifice her own life for him. But she is far from a victim kind of person.

 

 

I try to stay true to how I think my character would react to any situation regardless of how any follower may respond, but I do have my favorites. In the Crestwood scene with Solas, I prefer my character to be the one to walk away and there is only one scene that gives her that option. I'm not fond of the part where she shoves him, but people do things when they're angry and hurt that they later regret, so it still works. I feel like in the other options she is either too lacking in emotion or acting too much like a victim.

Trespasser is different, there are two options I really like that work for my strong character, the one where she speaks in elven and brings up his trust issues followed by the sexy stare pause, and the one where she says her people were wrong about Fen'Harel. The option where she makes a comment about the Dread Wolf taking her sounds too whiney to me. I'm a big Solavellan fan, so I never take options to tell him that it's over or that she will kill him.

 

"Dread wolf taking her" you mean the option to go with him? (tho you don't actually get the option to go with him) 

 

I also try to stay true to my characters, but I am not sure what those choices sends of a message. She seems more like the kind who would take the angry option, but I'll hate to give Solas the idea that she know hates him and that he was wasting his time on her. 

[Dai Grepher]

My Dalish rogue is the kind who cares about people but isn't afraid to make a hard choice if she believes its for the best, tho she doesn't always like the choices she has to make. She believes in the elven gods. I am not actually sure about her clan o.O I think they are alive and well, I remember saying she might go back sometimes in the options, and I faintly remember the mission on the war table, but yeah. Also she loves Solas more than she can say, she is willing to sacrifice her own life for him. But she is far from a victim kind of person.

 

She seems like the sad sort to me, but again, only you can decide that. I would add, is she the type to be understanding of Solas and his freedom to leave the relationship? In that case, she could respond with disappointment but not hold it against him.

 

Also, is there anyone else she can turn to? Not just in the main party, but in her clan as well (headcanon required)?

 

Basically, I think the sad option is for the more emotional females who don't respond to hurt with anger. There are also some more neutral options for those who have a logical understanding over an emotional response, or those who just never invested that much love into Solas in the first place.

 

As far as what is more interesting, I think that's a matter of player preference. Do you want something heartbreaking or something harsh yet inspiring?

 

If you want Solas to feel remorse over his choice, then go the pitiful, sad route. It's easier to feel nothing for someone who hates you. If your female elf is trying to reach out to Solas, then it will make him feel worse for going through with his plan. Plus, there's always the probability that the romance will rekindle in a future game once Solas is stopped and proven to be a fool.

[Zafireria]

If you want Solas to feel remorse over his choice, then go the pitiful, sad route. It's easier to feel nothing for someone who hates you. If your female elf is trying to reach out to Solas, then it will make him feel worse for going through with his plan. Plus, there's always the probability that the romance will rekindle in a future game once Solas is stopped and proven to be a fool.

 

That is what I was looking for to discuss! I want him to feel remorse and make him feel worse for going through it. I just wasn't sure which option would able that sort of feeling, apparently the sad option seems to be the one that would. 

I was just afraid the sad option would make her seem pathetic or something, but I agree on the "It's easier to feel nothing for someone who hates you" which you will naturally think if something got angry at you like that.

[Dai Grepher]

Yeah, I think if she hates Solas then he will feel bad, but he will mostly just want to forget about what he did, and remaking the world would come much easier to him in that case.

 

The sad option might make her seem pathetic. I guess it depends how you look at it. If she feels sorrow then I wouldn't really call her pathetic. I would call that a case of her showing how much it hurt her.

 

I don't think it crosses into pathetic territory until the female keeps going after the male and putting up with his abuse in hopes of winning his love. An example from another series (Naruto Shippuden) is Sakura's love for Sasuke. I would call her pathetic. But I think the female elf wanting to redeem Solas is a sensible move. After all, every Inquisitor can make that attempt if they want to. And regardless, the female elf will say at the end that they will try to save Solas if they can. Meaning, she knows what must be done if that effort to redeem him fails.

 

Also, if you want to reign in the waterworks, go for a neutral option now and then.

[Zafireria]

Also, if you want to reign in the waterworks, go for a neutral option now and then.

 

Agree on the things you said. Just don't know what you mean by "Waterworks" 

[Beerfish]

 I'm not fond of the part where she shoves him, but people do things when they're angry and hurt that they later regret, so it still works.

Shoves him?  I played as a female elf archer my last game and I punched him.  lol  (Didn't romance him I was romancing Sera at the time)  I played my character with a similar attitude to Sera, I basically turned my back on my dalish clan and didn't have much use for the whole dalish thing and elven lore and 'my people thing.  It actually set things up not bad for the ending.

[Qun00]

Lavellan curses in elvhen with the angry option, so that's pretty cool.

[Zafireria]

Shoves him?  I played as a female elf archer my last game and I punched him.  lol  (Didn't romance him I was romancing Sera at the time)  I played my character with a similar attitude to Sera, I basically turned my back on my dalish clan and didn't have much use for the whole dalish thing and elven lore and 'my people thing.  It actually set things up not bad for the ending.

 

Shoving only happens if you romance him Seen the video where you punch him. Hope he doesn't hold that against you if he is the next bad guy!

[Dancing_Dolphin]

Shoves him?  I played as a female elf archer my last game and I punched him.  lol  (Didn't romance him I was romancing Sera at the time)  I played my character with a similar attitude to Sera, I basically turned my back on my dalish clan and didn't have much use for the whole dalish thing and elven lore and 'my people thing.  It actually set things up not bad for the ending.

One of my human characters punched him.

 

Sera's romance is great. 

[NKnight7]

Angry option is pretty great, I plan to use that with my Solas romance playthrough.

[Ghost Gal]

Greetings!

 

Apologize the weird title but I wasn't sure if it would have been considered spoiler so yeah.

 

Soon I have to endure that dreadful break up scene with Solas and I am not sure which option to take, anger or sadness. I have seen each version on youtube but still I can't quite decide.

You see, I am a bit of a role-player and I want the options to mean something to Solas. Now in the angry version he looks heartbroken in the end, but I am not sure what message that sends, does it make my rogue elf seems like a b*itch he shouldn't waste his time on because she acted like that? Considering he did say "It'll be kinder in the long run" about the romance. Or will he see it has a heart-shattering moment for him that his heart is angry at him and that her broke her heart?

The sad version makes her seem a bit like she might crawl on her knees begging him not to leave. Also what does Solas think of it? Does it hurt more on him than the angry version or does he think that she is pathetic? 

 

I am aware that no option affects anything, he will break up no matter what. But, I just like role-playing and I not sure what message the option says. To be honest I'll love if Patrick Weekes would reply about what he believe would make Solas really regret his decision as well as wanting her even more, but I think that is more of wish thinking. Tho doesn't hurt hoping

 

But yeah, what did you guys choose and why? What do you think the option sends of a message? 

 

I don't think Solas holds it against you for being angry. I don't think he sees you as a "b*tch he shouldn't waste his time on because she acted like that." I think he understands that he caused your heartbreak (since he knew that he was planning on leaving from the beginning, but pursued a relationship with you anyway knowing it would hurt you, and now that day has come since you're hurt and angry), so he's not going to blame you for reacting accordingly.

 

And besides, why are you so worried about what Solas thinks of you? He's the one who broke your heart.

 

That said, I like the "angry" option for two reasons.

 

1) For the "Don't do this to me" option (where she says, "Tell me you don't care. Tell me I was just a casual dalliance so I can call you a cold-hearted son-of-a-****** and move on!") you get to shove him and walk away. As far as I know, in every other instance Solas is the one who walks away and leaves Lady Lavellan standing there sad and alone after breaking her heart. I like that the angry option allows Lady Lavellan to leave him standing there looking stupid and sad and alone instead of the other way around.

 

(As Rory Gilmore once said to Jess after he broke her heart, "I get to leave first!" "No, you don't get to walk away!")

 

2) As far as I know, only if you leave on the "angry" option, you get to confront Solas about the breakup later and demand answers. I don't know if this is still the case, but when I ended on the "sad" note back when the game first came out, there was no new dialogue with him after the breakup. You clicked on him, it was all the same stuff as before. If you chose the "angry" option though, you could angrily confront him and demand answers. He doesn't reveal anything, of course, (he is nothing if not elusive), but it is a great roleplaying touch.

 

That said, I love his parting words at the very end of the game for the "sad" option more than the "angry" one (Sad: "No matter what comes, I want you to know that what we had was real." Whereas with Anger: "You were right to be angry. I hope, in time, you will understand.")

 

So really, dealer's choice.

[Dai Grepher]

"Waterworks" means crying. If you don't want the female elf to cry or show sadness as much, you can pick a neutral option now and then.

[Beerfish]

Shoving only happens if you romance him Seen the video where you punch him. Hope he doesn't hold that against you if he is the next bad guy!

Yeah when you meet him at the very end of the game and find out who he really is I was hoping they would have a dialogue option referring to the slug.

 

'Gee, my hand really hurts I hope you hold that whole punching you in the face bit against me,'

[Tidus]

If possible my Dalish female would not hesitate in running a sword through Solas.. She never trusted him anyway in my first two play throughs.. No love lost.

[Dancing_Dolphin]

 

 

 

"Dread wolf taking her" you mean the option to go with him? (tho you don't actually get the option to go with him) 

 

No. I mean the bit right after Solas brings up the Dalish curse, "May the Dread Wolf take you." Your character can whine about him doing so by saying, "And so he did." 

[Zafireria]

I don't think Solas holds it against you for being angry. I don't think he sees you as a "b*tch he shouldn't waste his time on because she acted like that." I think he understands that he caused your heartbreak (since he knew that he was planning on leaving from the beginning, but pursued a relationship with you anyway knowing it would hurt you, and now that day has come since you're hurt and angry), so he's not going to blame you for reacting accordingly.

 

And besides, why are you so worried about what Solas thinks of you? He's the one who broke your heart.

 

That said, I like the "angry" option for two reasons.

 

1) For the "Don't do this to me" option (where she says, "Tell me you don't care. Tell me I was just a casual dalliance so I can call you a cold-hearted son-of-a-****** and move on!") you get to shove him and walk away. As far as I know, in every other instance Solas is the one who walks away and leaves Lady Lavellan standing there sad and alone after breaking her heart. I like that the angry option allows Lady Lavellan to leave him standing there looking stupid and sad and alone instead of the other way around.

 

(As Rory Gilmore once said to Jess after he broke her heart, "I get to leave first!" "No, you don't get to walk away!")

 

2) As far as I know, only if you leave on the "angry" option, you get to confront Solas about the breakup later and demand answers. I don't know if this is still the case, but when I ended on the "sad" note back when the game first came out, there was no new dialogue with him after the breakup. You clicked on him, it was all the same stuff as before. If you chose the "angry" option though, you could angrily confront him and demand answers. He doesn't reveal anything, of course, (he is nothing if not elusive), but it is a great roleplaying touch.

 

That said, I love his parting words at the very end of the game for the "sad" option more than the "angry" one (Sad: "No matter what comes, I want you to know that what we had was real." Whereas with Anger: "You were right to be angry. I hope, in time, you will understand.")

 

So really, dealer's choice.

 

I didn't know about additional dialogues if you picked the angry version. Sounds like the sad option makes the romance never happen or something. 

 

The reason why I care about Solas's opinion is because I think he broke up because he wanted to spare her a worse fate, was afraid what she would think, or felt he didn't deserve her (my opinions of course) I want him to still care for her enough to want to be with her, as I believe the break up was forced in a way. Also if Bioware gives us the choice I want them to end up together. She will save him

 

"Waterworks" means crying. If you don't want the female elf to cry or show sadness as much, you can pick a neutral option now and then.

 

Oh okay, thanks for clearing that up!

 

Yeah when you meet him at the very end of the game and find out who he really is I was hoping they would have a dialogue option referring to the slug.

 

'Gee, my hand really hurts I hope you hold that whole punching you in the face bit against me,'

 

Lol xD 

 

If possible my Dalish female would not hesitate in running a sword through Solas.. She never trusted him anyway in my first two play throughs.. No love lost.

 

I am assuming you went with the "Stop Solas at all cost" option in the end  

 

No. I mean the bit right after Solas brings up the Dalish curse, "May the Dread Wolf take you." Your character can whine about him doing so by saying, "And so he did." 

 

Oh, had forgotten about that line. Didn't know it was a curse tho. 

[themikefest]

I haven't played the dlc. Don't know when. I've seen the scene on youtude and would choose the anger option. I would've thrown in a renegade interrupt to punch him again. hahaha

[Zafireria]

I haven't played the dlc. Don't know when. I've seen the scene on youtude and would choose the anger option. I would've thrown in a renegade interrupt to punch him again. hahaha

 

The break up isn't part of a dlc. 

[themikefest]

The break up isn't part of a dlc. 

What break up?

[almasy87]

Mh.. I am pretty sure there is an option for talking to him after the breakup even with the sad reply, because that is what I picked last time.

"How may I help?"
"I'd like to discuss what happened before, Solas".

And then he tells you that an emotional entanglement would benefit neither of you, you ask if he'll talk to you after killing Corypheus, and he says that after that everything will be clear (rrright, Solas).

Or is there an extra option about discussing your relationship that only appears if you picked the angry reply, that I am not aware of?

I pick the sad one every time, because I do want my Lavellan to look like she is heartbroken, and because I prefer the way he tells you that you are a marvelous spirit and if it was in another world it would have been possible.. That's too sweet for me to pass on

Sure she looks like a little lonely bunny when he leaves her behind and she just stands there, but hey, I reckon it's normal to be like that when you are a mix between shocked and devastated