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[Sa Seba]

The thing is that a console is just another special purpose item of which we are supposed to need so many different ones of. You are supposed to have a console to play on, a computer to work on, a TV to watch, well, TV and movies on.

A pc does or can combine the functions of several special purpose devices, making whining about video card upgrades every 2 years invalid.

As Rubbish Hero said, a 8800GT still runs the majority of today's games beautifully.

[KneeTheCap]

An overclocked master system, now that is one thing I wanna see!



But I don't think it's possible to overclock consoles...but, I've never tried so can't really tell...

[KneeTheCap]

PC parts are quite cheap nowadays, so if you invest moderate amount of money and buy your PC in parts, it will serve you well for many years.



Well you do need to put it together, but still :-D

[eriaa]

I don't think it's going to die, but we will see a decline. We are already seeing most huge blockbuster games coming out at later dates on the PC (thanks Bioware for doing all the releases at the same time!)...and now thanks to Activision and Infinty Ward, we'll probably start seeing a 59.99 price tag as well...one of the reasons I will not be buying AC2 on release.

I don't mind security features and such...I've never had an issue with any of them. A lot of people complain about Games for Windows Live...again, I've never had an issue with it, and any game I have played that uses it has run flawlessly.

I do know however, I will need to give in for one of the next gen consoles when they come out, if I want to play all the games I love.

[Wrath of Doom]

You can build a decent gaming rig for about $1,500-2,000 these days. The graphics cards, CPU and power supply should be your biggest expenditures in that order. The biggest mistake n00bs make when building their system is to go cheap on the power supply.

[Rubbish Hero]

Personally, I think the biggest mistake noobs make is to buy cheap pc's with integrated graphics.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Wrath of Doom wrote...

You can build a decent gaming rig for about $1,500-2,000 these days.

You know, nearly two years ago I bought a premade computer for 1 000 €. (because at that point I didn't care anymore if that was a waste or not for personal reasons) It still runs most games near-perfectly. I don't think you'd have to spend a full 1k € if you were to build one by yourself and still have it serve you well for years to come. This is also advantageous with regards to the price/performance ratio curve.

[bzombo]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Personally, I think the biggest mistake noobs make is to buy cheap pc's with integrated graphics.

those noobs who don't know how to build a computer and don't have 1500 lying around to build one buy what they can afford.

[Little Paw]

Yes but those that perhaps realize the console is more affordable then a less than powerful PC might buy that instead, hence leading to this discussion.

[Statulos]

KneeTheCap wrote...

An overclocked master system, now that is one thing I wanna see!

But I don't think it's possible to overclock consoles...but, I've never tried so can't really tell...

It will be probably possibe in purely theoretical terms but actually doing it is a different animal.

So if someone has overclocked a console, please, let me know. I´m just curious about it.

[Little Paw]

I overclocked my clock.

It's progressively faster each minute and eventually it is the right time, twice a day.

[Humanoid_Taifun]

Little Paw wrote...

I overclocked my clock.
It's progressively faster each minute and eventually it is the right time, twice a day.

So your clock runs now at exactly twice the speed as other clocks?

[Gena Mafer]

I'll moan.

PC gaming is dead.  Blizzard and Valve are left, I guess, but probably not for long.

What looked like it might become a truly interesting new genre or medium was killed in its cradle by the quest to turn game design into just another Hollywood-style lowest-common-denominator money factory.

And you can take this to the bank: all genres will converge on dumbed-down 'story-driven' cinematic, movie-like 'RPGs', like some sort of poor man's virtual reality simulator; while digital distribution will become a universal, the pieces of games getting smaller and smaller and more 'episodic'.

It is known as the 'games-as-service' model, and the Big Boys like JR just love the idea.  

It's the future!

Dragon Age, which was supposed to be a gift to Bioware's long-time PC fanbase, of course, under EA's direction, morphed into an experiment; one that functions to inure customers to the future of design and nickel-and-dime distribution.

The fact is that the Golden Age for PC Gaming (which I place from 1998-2005) is over-- even though you can get far more PC for the money than you could a decade ago.

I thought that Europe-- particularly Northern and Eastern Europe-- might be a holdout and still produce respectable PC titles, but that looks like that even that probably wont turn out to be true.  There was the recent announcement that Remedy has nixed Alan Wake (which was supposed to be a quad-core DX10 exclusive, psychological thriller and a successor to Max Payne, and which morphed into a Silent Hill Zombie shooter replete with combat shotgun while under the Aegis of MS publishing);  it is now an XBOX 360 exclusive.

And, well, that's pretty much where it's all headed.

Modifié par Gena Mafer, 13 février 2010 - 01:57 .

[94teghug]

I agree with you Grena, but I must object on one thing. Blizzard.



Activision Blizzard is no longer worth mentioning, as soon as Activision even glanced at it, Blizzard has crumbled and is now not even a tiny spick of it's former self. No, I just hope to god that Valve keeps doing what they did to 2005 and that Dice doesn't fall under the preassure of EA. Other then that, in Indy developers we trust! The Black Mesa team, Unknown worlds and other true Gamers, not just developers, is where the future of the PC lies.



Just my two cents.

[94teghug]

Double post, although this topic does quite deserve the attention.

Modifié par 94teghug, 13 février 2010 - 05:53 .

[Vansen Elamber]

Back when I first started PC gaming the graphics were not that great because at that time the best IBM compatible PC ran at 4.5 Mhz and had no hard drive just two 5.25" floppy disc drives. So back then the developer had to get the gamer hooked through story rather then fancy graphics and while I do admitt that some stories I remember as being reall great, but in comparing those games to a top title like say Dragon Age I would never want to go back to the point in time where the graphics took a back seat to the storyline. If you look at a developer like Bioware, who has the ability to give us great visuals and also really great storylines the two combined equal far more then those old games ever had going for them. You can get all nostalgic about it and remember how fun it was to play the old Might and Magic games for instance but no way can I go back to that now that I have seen and played games with a much higher budget for graphics.



When you have a good developer like Bioware, who know that the game needs to be more then something pretty to watch, you may begin to see that with today's technology games are better then they ever have been, and they will only get better as time goes on. Eventually, hopefully we will be playing games in holodecks like in Star Trek, well maybe not in our lifetime...



As for the consoles killing PC gaming I think it is quite the opposite, if not for consoles I think a lot of game developers would be broke now because the PC market is just not large enough to warrant spending millions of dollars making a top game. So we can thank the gaming Gods that consoles exist though I don't own one and likely never will.

[Statulos]

Once again, guys; go Paradox. Those guys still produce old-school, hours-and-hours strategy.



Dominions 3 is another "PC only, non-console friendly" game so...

[Little Paw]

Humanoid_Taifun wrote...

Little Paw wrote...

I overclocked my clock.
It's progressively faster each minute and eventually it is the right time, twice a day.

So your clock runs now at exactly twice the speed as other clocks?

It is impossible from the information I gave to be able to tell exactly how fast the clock actually runs.

[Little Paw]

Gena Mafer wrote...

I'll moan.

PC gaming is dead.  Blizzard and Valve are left, I guess, but probably not for long.

What looked like it might become a truly interesting new genre or medium was killed in its cradle by the quest to turn game design into just another Hollywood-style lowest-common-denominator money factory.

And you can take this to the bank: all genres will converge on dumbed-down 'story-driven' cinematic, movie-like 'RPGs', like some sort of poor man's virtual reality simulator; while digital distribution will become a universal, the pieces of games getting smaller and smaller and more 'episodic'.

It is known as the 'games-as-service' model, and the Big Boys like JR just love the idea.  

It's the future!

Dragon Age, which was supposed to be a gift to Bioware's long-time PC fanbase, of course, under EA's direction, morphed into an experiment; one that functions to inure customers to the future of design and nickel-and-dime distribution.

The fact is that the Golden Age for PC Gaming (which I place from 1998-2005) is over-- even though you can get far more PC for the money than you could a decade ago.

I thought that Europe-- particularly Northern and Eastern Europe-- might be a holdout and still produce respectable PC titles, but that looks like that even that probably wont turn out to be true.  There was the recent announcement that Remedy has nixed Alan Wake (which was supposed to be a quad-core DX10 exclusive, psychological thriller and a successor to Max Payne, and which morphed into a Silent Hill Zombie shooter replete with combat shotgun while under the Aegis of MS publishing);  it is now an XBOX 360 exclusive.

And, well, that's pretty much where it's all headed.

Really well said, and I agree with you 100%
I will again mention The Witcher 2 should eb a great game for PC and is out of Poland.