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[Killroy]

This is a stupid AI that thinks it's inevitable that synthetics will wipe out all organics.  "Extreme" is its normal  

So write stupid stories because the Catalyst is stupid?
 

When did the Reapers just storm in and start shooting everything?  Well, there'es ME3...

Wrong. The Reapers were preparing for our cycle for hundreds of years in many ways. You already said as much in your previous post.
 

And...?  You suggested the Reapers may have fought these Remnants and lost/had a draw.  Which, as I said, sounds interesting.  I'm just saying the Reapers would not have given up easily.

When did I say they gave up easily?

[Iakus]

So write stupid stories because the Catalyst is stupid?
 

I'm sorry, did I eat one of your kittens?  Because you're being awfully hostile...

 

The Catalyst (and by extension, the Reapers) are stupid, poorly programmed machines that take wildly extreme measures to solve problems that have poorly-phrased parameters.  "Stupid stories because the Catalyst is stupid" is pretty much the definition of the Shepard trilogy.  But just because they are stupid doesn't mean they can't be part of an interesting story.

 

 

 

Wrong. The Reapers were preparing for our cycle for hundreds of years in many ways. You already said as much in your previous post.

 

And their preparations were thwarted over and over by Shepard.  Until they went "screw it" and entered batarian space with guns blazing.

 

 

When did I say they gave up easily?

When you said  suggested they didn't try again.

[Zekka]

Replace "theory" with "suggestion" and you're good.

Power creep is exactly the opposite of what this franchise needs, to be honest. The Reapers were already obscenely powerful to the point of requiring a Deus Ex Machina to defeat.

Truthfully, compared to other sci-fi, the reapers aren't all that powerful but I wouldn't mind another species/race being as powerful or more powerful that reapers but from a different galaxy.

[Just Here For Popcorns]

Whoever this new enemy is I hope he or she is full grown person, robot, dog, whatever.....just not kid again. Because I seriously will go to remove both of my testicles in order not to have kids.

[Killroy]

I'm sorry, did I eat one of your kittens?  Because you're being awfully hostile...

What? I'm saying using a stupid plot device to justify stupid stories is a bad thing.
 

The Catalyst (and by extension, the Reapers) are stupid, poorly programmed machines that take wildly extreme measures to solve problems that have poorly-phrased parameters.  "Stupid stories because the Catalyst is stupid" is pretty much the definition of the Shepard trilogy.  But just because they are stupid doesn't mean they can't be part of an interesting story.

The Reapers constantly trying to defeat a force that they've already lost to would run completely counter to the Reaper's programming if they kept losing Reapers. The Reapers themselves are the "preservation" of life so every Reaper lost is a failure. Failing to "preserve" life in a blind attempt to "preserve" other life is even stupider than the Catalyst in ME3.
 

And their preparations were thwarted over and over by Shepard.  Until they went "screw it" and entered batarian space with guns blazing.

You're not countering my point. The Reapers were preparing to harvest our cycle since before Shepard was even alive.
 

When you said  suggested they didn't try again.

Did the Japanese continue WWII after America dealt them a crippling blow? No, because it would be folly and run counter to their goals. Continuing to fight a superior force at the cost of your mission is as stupid as it gets.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Whoever this new enemy is I hope he or she is full grown person, robot, dog, whatever.....just not kid again. Because I seriously will go to remove both of my testicles in order not to have kids.

[Kabooooom]

Whoever this new enemy is I hope he or she is full grown person, robot, dog, whatever.....just not kid again. Because I seriously will go to remove both of my testicles in order not to have kids.

I, for one, bow to our new fearsome SpacePug overlords.

[Kabooooom]

If you thought kilometer long robotic cuttlefish were scary, imagine a kilometer long robotic pug. They would crush all underpaw while deafening you with their mechanical upper airway noise.

[Arcian]

Truthfully, compared to other sci-fi, the reapers aren't all that powerful but I wouldn't mind another species/race being as powerful or more powerful that reapers but from a different galaxy.

In terms of pure firepower the Covenant of Halo would absolutely demolish the Reapers every day of the week. Even Halo's UNSC has unimaginable firepower compared to the Reapers - their Super MAC Orbital Defense Platforms packs 51.5 gigatons of destructive power with each shot. Incidentally, that's what inspired Mac Walters flattering nickname.

Hibernating between cycles is just a hypothesis that doesn't originate with the Reapers. It was a VI's hypothesis and nothing more.
 
The Reapers could theoretically travel anywhere in the universe at FTL since they don't have to discharge their drive cores and there's no solid indication that they need to recharge their systems.

This is also just a hypothesis. Common sense dictates they aren't perpetual motion machines since the laws of physics don't allow it, ergo they need to replenish their resources at some point. Even eezo decays after a couple of centuries and need to be replaced.

[prosthetic soul]

I would personally laugh my ass off if the Pathfinder finally exited out of FTL into the Andromeda Galaxy and the first thing he saw was a horde of Reapers. 

 

Serves you right for abandoning your own galaxy you coward. 

[Zekka]

I would personally laugh my ass off if the Pathfinder finally exited out of FTL into the Andromeda Galaxy and the first thing he saw was a horde of Reapers. 

 

Serves you right for abandoning your own galaxy you coward. 

lol, that would be a bigger troll than ME3 ending

[The Real Pearl #2]

I would personally laugh my ass off if the Pathfinder finally exited out of FTL into the Andromeda Galaxy and the first thing he saw was a horde of Reapers. 

 

Serves you right for abandoning your own galaxy you coward. 

And a bunch of cerberus dreadnoughts filled with kai lengs

[Tetrabytes101]

The catalist was a quick fix,the propheans have more even bigger powerfuller weapons they new we were in short time and this was a quick fix to stop the cycle of human exstinction,
As to help us.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The catalist was a quick fix,the propheans have more even bigger powerfuller weapons they new we were in short time and this was a quick fix to stop the cycle of human exstinction,
As to help us.

The Catalyst was created by the Leviathans, not the Protheans. And it wasn't a quick fix, but seen as the solution for the problem it was made to solve. 

If the Protheans had weapons that could defeat the Reapers, then why didn't they use them when the Reapers attacked them? 

[Chealec]

The Catalyst was created by the Leviathans, not the Protheans. And it wasn't a quick fix, but seen as the solution for the problem it was made to solve. 

If the Protheans had weapons that could defeat the Reapers, then why didn't they use them when the Reapers attacked them? 

 

I'm not saying they did or they didn't - but they were caught off-guard; there's a lot to be said for Blitzkrieg as a military tactic.

[Iakus]

 
The Reapers constantly trying to defeat a force that they've already lost to would run completely counter to the Reaper's programming if they kept losing Reapers. The Reapers themselves are the "preservation" of life so every Reaper lost is a failure. Failing to "preserve" life in a blind attempt to "preserve" other life is even stupider than the Catalyst in ME3.
 

And the organics who die to the "inevitable" robot uprising that happens because the Reapers fail to help them "ascend"?  That would be failure too.  That's why I said if the Reapers felt they could not face something directly, they'd find an indirect way to bring a harvest about.

 

 

 

You're not countering my point. The Reapers were preparing to harvest our cycle since before Shepard was even alive.

Did the Japanese continue WWII after America dealt them a crippling blow? No, because it would be folly and run counter to their goals. Continuing to fight a superior force at the cost of your mission is as stupid as it gets.

 

Wait, superior?  I thought we were talking about a hypothetical race who managed to fight off the Reapers at the cost of their own civilization?  That sounds more like a tie to me.  

[Killroy]

And the organics who die to the "inevitable" robot uprising that happens because the Reapers fail to help them "ascend"?  That would be failure too.  That's why I said if the Reapers felt they could not face something directly, they'd find an indirect way to bring a harvest about.

 
The Reapers have to do the Reaping. Viruses, synthetic minions(oh, the hypocrisy), etc can only get teh ball rolling. 

Wait, superior?  I thought we were talking about a hypothetical race who managed to fight off the Reapers at the cost of their own civilization?  That sounds more like a tie to me.

How would the Reapers know they've gutted their enemy if they retreated or were wiped out?

[Kabooooom]

I would personally laugh my ass off if the Pathfinder finally exited out of FTL into the Andromeda Galaxy and the first thing he saw was a horde of Reapers.

Serves you right for abandoning your own galaxy you coward.

I dont think preserving your species in the face of all-but certain extinction is super cowardly or anything. Someone's gotta do it.

But yeah...I guess hopping on a spaceboat to flee the galaxy with the unfortunate burden of having lots of sex to preserve your species is comparatively less brave than fighting a hoard of husks.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I dont think preserving your species in the face of all-but certain extinction is super cowardly or anything. Someone's gotta do it.

But yeah...I guess hopping on a spaceboat to flee the galaxy with the unfortunate burden of having lots of sex to preserve your species is comparatively less brave than fighting a hoard of husks.

I really hope they don't do the whole forced breeding thing in Andromeda. 

[Oldren Shepard]

 

I hope bioware don't go that way

[Laughing_Man]

I really hope they don't do the whole forced breeding thing in Andromeda. 

 

Don't worry, Bioware is not really into realism of any sort.

 

Space unicorns, glowing star brats, and sex with incompatible aliens are more likely.

 

The need to keep population up on the other hand, may pull some of the cheer from gaylien romance and we can't have that.

[Master Warder Z_]

Don't worry, Bioware is not really into realism of any sort.

Space unicorns, glowing star brats, and sex with incompatible aliens are more likely.

The need to keep population up on the other hand, may pull some of the cheer from gaylien romance and we can't have that.

Seriously though, the potential for a harem has never been higher! It has to happen!

[The Elder King]

I would personally laugh my ass off if the Pathfinder finally exited out of FTL into the Andromeda Galaxy and the first thing he saw was a horde of Reapers. 

 

Serves you right for abandoning your own galaxy you coward. 

It's not like he/she jumped on the first spaceship and left the MW. If the expediction was launched prior the ending it was due the Council leaders or whoever was in charge of the opeation to leave.

Don't worry, Bioware is not really into realism of any sort.

 

Space unicorns, glowing star brats, and sex with incompatible aliens are more likely.

 

The need to keep population up on the other hand, may pull some of the cheer from gaylien romance and we can't have that.

 

Yeah, it's not as if it's possible to make a population growth program established and at the same time have gay LI . Also Hanako's concern isn't about that.

 

Also, it all depends on the current situation in Andromeda. We don't know if we'll have colonies yet or if all the population is still in ships. In this case we might be in a similat situation of the quarians.

[pkypereira]

I really hope they don't do the whole forced breeding thing in Andromeda. 

 

I don't think there would be forced breeding but I'm sure the colonists are aware before leaving the Milky Way that in order to preserve humankind they must be fruitful and multiply.

[Kabooooom]

I really hope they don't do the whole forced breeding thing in Andromeda.

Well when you say it like that it doesn't sound fun at all. :/