How far was the escape pod from the cockpit? I can't recall now.
Humans can be exposed to a vacuum for brief periods of time and come out the other end fine, but the key word is brief.
It was right next to it, across the walkway from the airlock to enter the Normandy.
From the moment Joker leaves the shield to the moment the escape pod is sealed and pressurized would take less than a minute, so within the survivability period.
Not very far, only a few feet. But I'd still wager that Joker would have needed immediate medical attention even after a brief exposure. Wikipedia has some pretty grim things to say about space exposure.How far was the escape pod from the cockpit? I can't recall now.
Humans can be exposed to a vacuum for brief periods of time and come out the other end fine, but the key word is brief.
Footage of NASA test subject being exposed to a vacuum
It was right next to it, across the walkway from the door to enter the Normandy.
From the moment Joker leaves the shield to the moment the escape pod is sealed and pressurized would take less than a minute, so within the survivability period.
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I wasn't sure if I remembered that part correctly. I agree that if the escape pod was that close it should have been doable, although it wouldn't have been pleasant for Joker.
Joker would have gone from 1 atmosphere to hard vacuum in less than a second. Then the pod would have repressurized him back to 1 atmosphere in a few seconds once it sealed and launched (I presume).Thanks...
I wasn't sure if I remembered that part correctly. I agree that if the escape pod was that close it should have been doable, although it wouldn't have been pleasant for Joker.
See this is why you should leave everything but the crew quarters free of atmosphere in a warship and just have the crew wear spacesuits. No fire risk, no chance of explosive depressurization and no inane force fields needed. Bonus points points for everyone getting to dress like TIE fighter pilots.
Well, kinetic shields on ships may be different since they have a much more powerful Mass Effect core powering them, especially the Normandy since both had oversized cores. I thought you were talking about the kinetic shields on a person.
The codex says it's all the same technology, so it would have the same limitations. A warship's barriers would just be stronger.
How far was the escape pod from the cockpit? I can't recall now.
Humans can be exposed to a vacuum for brief periods of time and come out the other end fine, but the key word is brief.
You are probably right that it might have been survivable, but it still looks really stupid having Joker in just that dumb helmet. Of course it doesn't bother me as much as his spreading Vrolik's Syndrome
You are probably right that it might have been survivable, but it still looks really stupid having Joker in just that dumb helmet. Of course it doesn't bother me as much as his spreading Vrolik's Syndrome
The whole Vrolik's Syndrome thing was kind of silly to begin with. It was a stretch to have a person who could break a rib during a hard sneeze even being accepted for flight training. How the hell did he even pass a basic physical? Or why couldn't synthetic bone weave cure his condition?
If I could wave a magic wand and change story elements of the series, that would be one of the things I'd drop. It didn't really add much to his character either.
The whole Vrolik's Syndrome thing was kind of silly to begin with. It was a stretch to have a person who could break a rib during a hard sneeze even being accepted for flight training. How the hell did he even pass a basic physical? Or why couldn't synthetic bone weave cure his condition?
If I could wave a magic wand and change story elements of the series, that would be one of the things I'd drop. It didn't really add much to his character either.
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The whole Vrolik's Syndrome thing was kind of silly to begin with. It was a stretch to have a person who could break a rib during a hard sneeze even being accepted for flight training. How the hell did he even pass a basic physical? Or why couldn't synthetic bone weave cure his condition?
If I could wave a magic wand and change story elements of the series, that would be one of the things I'd drop. It didn't really add much to his character either.
I remember Joker talking to Vega about how there were suits that could help him have a more "normal" life but that he chooses not to wear because whatever. Maybe his illness is not as catastrophic as we think.
I did appreciate his character a lot during the original trilogy, despite the inconsistencies!
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I hadn't even considered that.
If that was the intent, I wished they had picked a more plausible disability.
I remember Joker talking to Vega about how there were suits that could help him have a more "normal" life but that he chooses not to wear because whatever. Maybe his illness is not as catastrophic as we think.
Brittle bones are not something I imagine you want in a high g-force working environment.
If that was the intent, I wished they had picked a more plausible disability.
Or just a different profession. My understanding is that pilot is not a career path forgiving of physical failings.
Brittle bones are not something I imagine you want in a high g-force working environment.
Could make things more interesting! keep an open mind!
Could make things more interesting! keep an open mind!
Exactly! Chaos is fun for the entire family 
The whole Vrolik's Syndrome thing was kind of silly to begin with. It was a stretch to have a person who could break a rib during a hard sneeze even being accepted for flight training. How the hell did he even pass a basic physical? Or why couldn't synthetic bone weave cure his condition?
If I could wave a magic wand and change story elements of the series, that would be one of the things I'd drop. It didn't really add much to his character either.
Well remember that my whole point in bringing it up was that in ME1 it was only his legs that had an issue, so no broken ribs from sneezing. However, your second point stands. Even if we didn't have "heavy bone density" or whatever the upgrade in ME2 was, we already knew that Alliance Marines get genetic manipulation to improve them physically. Maybe it's too expensive to use on a pilot rather than a combat Marine.
How far was the escape pod from the cockpit? I can't recall now.
Humans can be exposed to a vacuum for brief periods of time and come out the other end fine, but the key word is brief.
Footage of NASA test subject being exposed to a vacuum
Yup, its something Hollywood gets wrong 90% of the time and now has been ingrained in the public consciousness that vacuum = instant death.
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Near instant death, I may lose consciousness in under a minute, and can die in under three if you aren't properly re-pressurized, hell after two you probably can't breath without a machine anymore.
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Near instant death, I may lose consciousness in under a minute, and can die in under three if you aren't properly re-pressurized, hell after two you probably can't breath without a machine anymore.
In this case, I'm willing to assume the VI on your escape pod can figure out how to re-pressurize the pod for people who may have been exposed to vacuum.
Eh...
Near instant death, I may lose consciousness in under a minute, and can die in under three if you aren't properly re-pressurized, hell after two you probably can't breath without a machine anymore.
In this case, I'm willing to assume the VI on your escape pod can figure out how to re-pressurize the pod for people who may have been exposed to vacuum.
That said...there have been proposed measures like advanced flight suits and alike that supposedly can mitigate vacuum exposure due to them to limiting the effects. Aka they will condense blood flow, prevent hypoxia and air bubbles through basically just applying increasing amounts of pressure, aka you will retain semi normal pressure even in vacuum conditions, without a proper space suit.
That's just theoretical garbage though, and the concept hasn't even been applied, it goes back to old pre space flight designs and concepts but to my knowledge, in theory it would work to a degree. Those germans were crazy, planning strato bombers that could glid the atmosphere and drop nukes.
That's hardly instant
I said near instant, did you miss the 'near'
Three minutes, good god.
I said near instant, did you miss the 'near'
Three minutes, good god.
That really isn't near instant at all. You can die faster than that in extreme conditions on Earth.
By what definition are we doing near then? Its classified as a short time, I'd cite three minutes as pretty damn short, all in all that's only a hundred and eighty seconds, it takes longer then that for me to get through most red lights usually.
But yeah, you can die quicker here on earth by diving head first into a drained pool or by having a allergic reaction, doesn't mean I wouldn't call three minutes within the near instant range, but that said this is a matter of semantics, if you folks want to bicker about what I'd call a short period of time, perhaps you all try to get the definition expanded, to something 'under' three minutes.
By what definition are we doing near then? Its classified as a short time, I'd cite three minutes as pretty damn short, all in all that's only a hundred and eighty seconds, it takes longer then that for me to get through most red lights usually.
But yeah, you can die quicker here on earth by diving head first into a drained pool or by having a allergic reaction, doesn't mean I wouldn't call three minutes within the near instant range, but that said this is a matter of semantics, if you folks want to bicker about what I'd call a short period of time, perhaps you all short try to get the definition expanded, to something 'under' three minutes.
To be near-instant it would have to occur nearly instantly.
The process of take begins to occur near instantly, it just that long for the body to die or reach a medical state of death, so it isn't as you said.
Having someone who is going to shoot you sit down and wait, tis more akin to them shooting you in the throat, severing a artery and you taking about a minute to bleed to death rather then say them shooting you in the head,piercing the brain and killing you instantly.
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