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[themikefest]

To break it before you stab him.

Doesn't that happen during the Chronos mission? Yeah it does. Still doesn't explain him sticking the sword in the ground on Thessia

[Master Warder Z_]

...you're the most annoying sort of fanboy. Citing sources? Was an asterisk supposed to appear over Kylo Ren's head every time he was on screen, pointing the viewers to a text box at the bottom of the screen?

Nope, just a call back(like Caedus) or a director comment, rather then it just being played off as some novel, or new idea

Also fanboy stretches the affection I have for the series a bit...its more akin to casual adherent to the Universe.

Seriously, you act like you need to be a fanatic to pick up a book.

[Laughing_Man]

I was ok with it because Shepard is a cyborg with all sorts of enhancements. Was that not enough for you? Unless you forgot, which is easy because the game and characters largely do.

 

Still not nearly enough Vs. the Shadow Broker.

 

Reinforced bones / muscles / skin, do not allow one to completely ignore mass.

 

A powerful biotic might be able to do it by manipulating mass, but a cyborg with modifications that are minor enough for him to appear human,

and that are aimed more toward a measure of protection rather than sheer power? No chance in hell.

 

Yahg are so massive and muscular that they make Krogan look rather puny in comparison, one backhand or shield bash from the broker should have

sent Shepard with all his enhancements flying across the room to crush into a wall.

[Laughing_Man]

Doesn't that happen during the Chronos mission? Yeah it does. Still doesn't explain him sticking the sword in the ground on Thessia

 

It's probably a part of the anime-style "cool pose"...

[ZipZap2000]

wait when was cerberus confirmed for ME:A?

That pic in the 'tempest' kinda looks like TIM apparently, haven't read any leaks but the guy in the photo is allegedly holding two kids. If its elusive man its his kids.

I really, really doubt it.

[Killroy]

Nope, just a call back(like Caedus) or a director comment, rather then it just being played off as some novel, or new idea

Sorry, but that's stupid. It's not a term paper, it's a billion dollar movie with decades of material to draw from.

Also fanboy stretches the affection I have for the series a bit...its more akin to casual adherent to the Universe.
Seriously, you act like you need to be a fanatic to pick up a book.

You have to be fanboy to get this bootyblasted over something so minor and irrelevant.

[Killroy]

That pic in the 'tempest' kinda looks like TIM apparently, haven't read any leaks but the guy in the photo is allegedly holding two kids. If its elusive man its his kids.

I really, really doubt it.

There's no indication whatsoever that the adult person in that photo is even a man, let alone TIM. Anyone saying it's TIM is full of crap.

[Master Warder Z_]

Sorry, but that's stupid. It's not a term paper, it's a billion dollar movie with decades of material to draw from

Stupid? No, its fair to the author that built that book series and contributed to the universe with a concept for a existing character that was unused since the Vong war.

But it is true that isn't the only stolen idea, do you want me to point out the other stolen uncited ideas? The Sun Crusher, Imperial Remnant, The dark side adepts, etc.



There is nothing there that the EU didn't already do before.

[The Real Pearl #2]

Why? I have no 'rage' just disdain.

Cashing in on the EU while simultaneously treating it with derision is just cheap to me. Steal the ideas and then not give due credit, plus Caedus was truthfully better as he wasn't a overgrown man-child going through a bout of daddy issues and could actually fight competently.



Course you could call it the nature of things...like the EU giving us Darth Bane and the Rule of Two actual exposition back in 01 rather then a single line by Yoda in TPM.

.-. Truly this is nothing new, so I don't treat it as anything but the continuation of a practice Lucas loved to do.

Grumpy cat is a cancerous meme and so is rage comics, it's unironic and the least of funny. 

But I think your pretty cool, stay safe bro

[ZipZap2000]

There's no indication whatsoever that the adult person in that photo is even a man, let alone TIM. Anyone saying it's TIM is full of crap.

Agreed in just saying there's all kinds of things floating around atm.

[Natureguy85]

Still not nearly enough Vs. the Shadow Broker.

 

Reinforced bones / muscles / skin, do not allow one to completely ignore mass.

 

A powerful biotic might be able to do it by manipulating mass, but a cyborg with modifications that are minor enough for him to appear human,

and that are aimed more toward a measure of protection rather than sheer power? No chance in hell.

 

Yahg are so massive and muscular that they make Krogan look rather puny in comparison, one backhand or shield bash from the broker should have

sent Shepard with all his enhancements flying across the room to crush into a wall.

 

Well we really don't know what Shepard's augmentations do for him as far as strength. You're right, but it wasn't something that seemed totally unreasonable other than that the series didn't do anything else with the fact that Shepard is cybernetic.

 

 

 

 

Nope, just a call back(like Caedus) or a director comment, rather then it just being played off as some novel, or new idea

Also fanboy stretches the affection I have for the series a bit...its more akin to casual adherent to the Universe.

Seriously, you act like you need to be a fanatic to pick up a book.

 

I just want to point out that your subsequent posts make it seem as though you've picked up many books. That's cool that you notice those things in the movie. I didn't read much EU stuff but I'm looking forward to seeing the new movie.

[Killroy]

Stupid? No, its fair to the author that built that book series and contributed to the universe with a concept for a existing character that was unused since the Vong war.

But it is true that isn't the only stolen idea, do you want me to point out the other stolen uncited ideas? The Sun Crusher, Imperial Remnant, The dark side adepts, etc.



There is nothing there that the EU didn't already do before.

Nothing was stolen. Everything written under the Star Wars banner belonged to Lucas Film and now belongs to Disney. You're being willfully obtuse for no reason whatsoever, proving that you're definitely a fanboy.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nothing was stolen. Everything written under the Star Wars banner belonged to Lucas Film and now belongs to Disney. You're being willfully obtuse for no reason whatsoever, proving that you're definitely a fanboy.

Not directed at me, but:

[Kierro Ren]

*Face palms* I just made a comment about naming my character after Kylo Ren, because I liked the character, and it gets blown out of proportion... I'm soo fking sorry...

[Commander Rpg]

Who doesn't like space Ninjas?

In a game where it's clearly not pulp oriented? It would be a very bad choice. Mass Effect doesn't have the same chivalry lore as Star Wars, plus it's based on a plausible reality and not a fictional one. Plausibility intended as "doable not breaking the suspension of disbelief".

[Master Warder Z_]

I just want to point out that your subsequent posts make it seem as though you've picked up many books. That's cool that you notice those things in the movie. I didn't read much EU stuff but I'm looking forward to seeing the new movie.

Around forty or so I guess, including comics, games and such. Thrawn Trilogy, Hand of Thrawn duology, Republic Commando series, Legacy of the force, dark empire, the novelizations for all movies,Golden Age of the Sith, rise of Darth Vader, Tales of the Bounty Hunter, The Rogue Squadron series, The Han Solo trilogy, Darth Bane trilogy, etc

In truth though? There are dozens i have never read, dozens more I know I'd like to read, but life or something got in the way, I know not of every detail in the EU but simply picking up a book or two since the 90s helped immeasurably.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nothing was stolen. Everything written under the Star Wars banner belonged to Lucas Film and now belongs to Disney. You're being willfully obtuse for no reason whatsoever, proving that you're definitely a fanboy.

No I'm pointing out that ripping off other folks work without citation is plagiarism.

[Ahglock]

Not when you are writing for someone. Then they own the character not the writer.

[Natureguy85]

Well the concepts, or at least your points, are not mutually exclusive. You could still call it "plagarism" if you're claiming to actually have come up with the idea, even if you technically own the idea because it was created for or under your license. It's the difference between what is ethical and what is legal.

 

But wouldn't attribution go in the credits?

[Master Warder Z_]

Not when you are writing for someone. Then they own the character not the writer.

Plagiarism

the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own.

.-.

I said nothing about 'ownership' I said stolen ideas be stolen. A practice that has long been used in Star Wars. Never said that Aaron Allston or Traviss would contest 'legality' would be hard anyway considering Allston has been dead nearly two years.

I simply pointed out a rip off is a rip off, a imitation a imitation, a plagiarization a plagiarization.

[Ahglock]

It's not someone else's work. That's the thing. It's Star Wars work, not the writers.

[Natureguy85]

It's not someone else's work. That's the thing. It's Star Wars work, not the writers.

 

So you think it would be fine if your boss took an idea of yours and told his boss that it was his idea? I'd have a problem with that even though the company has the idea either way.

[Ahglock]

So you think it would be fine if your boss took an idea of yours and told his boss that it was his idea? I'd have a problem with that even though the company has the idea either way.

I see a large difference. If I sell someone a hammer I don't say why didn't you credit me for that cabinet you built. That is what these contracts are like. You are handing over a book and saying this is yours, use it as you see fit. To get hurt when they then use it is weird. In this case I'd think hey it's awesome they liked my idea enough to take things from it. Having not yet seen the movie I'm not sure what's going on in this case but a lot of the things from the EU would be developed independent anyways so using the name or whatever from the away is just a polite nod to past work. No need to actually put it in the credits.

I guess I look at this from a comics perspective. If they throw daredevil into a Xmen comic they don't need to credit Stan lee. Not the best analogy since he made both, pick a Kirby character.

[Killroy]

No I'm pointing out that ripping off other folks work without citation is plagiarism.

 

No it's not and no you're not. You're just whining about the new Star Wars because you're a fanboy, the worst sort of "fan" a property can have. Nothing was stolen, "citing sources" in a billion dollar movie is completely moronic, and you're being willfully obtuse. Stop it.

[The Real Pearl #2]

why the frick are we arguing about star wars on this thread about cerberus?