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jros83

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Sorry if this seems woefully ignorant. I haven't kept myself to up to date. That said...

 

Since a new galaxy will be the setting, personally I hope Bioware goes heavy on the exploration and discovery theme. No doubt, I like the action too. Who doesn't? But if we're heading over to our universal neighbor, let's play it to the hilt. I hope there will be a strong sense of wonder and exploration involved. Beautiful new worlds, amazing stellar phenomena, and not all of it just to exist as a backdrop to a battle, but also reserved just for the beauty of it. Perhaps some exploration and research missions. With a healthy dose of the unexpected. 

 

Nobody does it better than Bioware. Whatever they touch turns to gold so if they embraced this theme as well it could be nothing but good!


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No.

 

Because BioWare haven't read One Piece yet.



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Yeah so anyway...



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Nobody does it better than Bioware. Whatever they touch turns to gold

But this is objectively wrong.
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Because they haven't watched Hunter x Hunter 2011 yet.



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Sorry if this seems woefully ignorant. I haven't kept myself to up to date. That said...

 

Since a new galaxy will be the setting, personally I hope Bioware goes heavy on the exploration and discovery theme. No doubt, I like the action too. Who doesn't? But if we're heading over to our universal neighbor, let's play it to the hilt. I hope there will be a strong sense of wonder and exploration involved. Beautiful new worlds, amazing stellar phenomena, and not all of it just to exist as a backdrop to a battle, but also reserved just for the beauty of it. Perhaps some exploration and research missions. With a healthy dose of the unexpected. 

 

Nobody does it better than Bioware. Whatever they touch turns to gold so if they embraced this theme as well it could be nothing but good!

"Nobody does it better than Bioware"   Are you sure?


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"Nobody does it better than Bioware"   Are you sure?

There are Konami and Ubisoft, but you can't except any company to be as good as them.



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I just hope they are going to fill areas with stuff this time to be interested in. DAI is has huge areas to wander around aimlessly, but there isn't that much stuff to do.


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There are Konami and Ubisoft, but you can't except any company to be as good as them.

Konami wouldn't know quality if it came up and punched them in the face. And Ubisoft are well-known for their buggy, poorly optimized, downgraded and crash-prone releases.


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There are Konami and Ubisoft, but you can't except any company to be as good as them.

 

Konami wouldn't know quality if it came up and punched them in the face. And Ubisoft are well-known for their buggy, poorly optimized, downgraded and crash-prone releases.

 

I am now confused was Battlebloodmage comment sarcasm or not. I think it was right?



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I am now confused was Battlebloodmage comment sarcasm or not. I think it was right?

 

It had to be. :)

 

Konami might be the worst company ever, who was just lucky they had Kojima. Ubisoft? EA gets a lot of stuff thrown at them (lot of it earned) but they have nothing on Ubisoft as far as being a bad company. At least EA does not oursource PC Ports to 12 people in freakin Kiev...while running an online marketplace that is almost as bad as Games For Windows Live was.
 
CDPR right now is the gold standard if you want to go open world. There is a reason they won developer of the year. Everyone else is playing catch up and they are doing it better than bigger companies are, who have more employees and WAY bigger budgets and they also have customer trust which is something EA/Bioware have to earn back with ME:A after ME3.
 
Personally I totally disagree with the OP. I do not want a game as wide open as Witcher 3 was. I want Mass Effect. I hated DA:I. The only way EA should touch open world after Witcher 3? Is if they think they can do it just as well. Good luck with that. Not saying they won't but I don't see the game coming out in 2016 if they do.
 
Not every darn game has to be "open world". Skyrim and Fallout succeed mainly due to mods. Witcher 3 might be the first open world game I truly loved without a major mod overhaul. 


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Wow. Lots of people getting the wrong idea. Forget it.



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Sorry if this seems woefully ignorant. I haven't kept myself to up to date. That said...

 

Since a new galaxy will be the setting, personally I hope Bioware goes heavy on the exploration and discovery theme. No doubt, I like the action too. Who doesn't? But if we're heading over to our universal neighbor, let's play it to the hilt. I hope there will be a strong sense of wonder and exploration involved. Beautiful new worlds, amazing stellar phenomena, and not all of it just to exist as a backdrop to a battle, but also reserved just for the beauty of it. Perhaps some exploration and research missions. With a healthy dose of the unexpected. 

 

Nobody does it better than Bioware. Whatever they touch turns to gold so if they embraced this theme as well it could be nothing but good!

 

My favorite part of Mass Effect is interstellar exploration. I can't wait to see how it'll all look in better graphics.



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Not every darn game has to be "open world". Skyrim and Fallout succeed mainly due to mods. Witcher 3 might be the first open world game I truly loved without a major mod overhaul.


Witcher 3 sucks. And sorry mods barely have any impact in bethesdas success as the vast vast majority of their sales are on modless consoles. People just like their games and how they do open world.

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Nobody does it better than Bioware. Whatever they touch turns to gold.

 

This was sort of true for me until DA:I, now, what they touch turns to stones, plants, bit's of junk and shards.  Why is it always shards?  Every game has bloody shards, can't anyone think beyond shards?



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I want exploration to return -- I just do not want BioWare to put too much emphasis on it. I do not want to spend twenty minutes running around on a half empty map like the first game. In fact, I will only accept large empty maps if they look as good as the maps on Battlefront.

I do favor dark futuristic cities, though. Think Coruscant, Illium, or the city from Bladerunner.
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Any mention of exploration makes me nervous.

 

I tend to prefer RPGs where the focus is more on the characters populating the game world than the game world itself. That used to be Bioware's bread and butter until Skyrim came along with its 20 million+ sales. Since then every AAA RPG released has tried to copy Bethesda's approach to varying degrees. Dragon Age and the Witcher series, both character focused RPGs, transitioned to a partially open world approach.

 

I found the results mixed. The Witcher 3 managed the transition successfully without losing the series' strong focus on story and characters, but Bioware's attempt was a bit of a mixed bag. It seemed like exploration got more focus from the Bioware devs than characters and story, to the extent that the side content and non-party NPCs were often dull and lifeless.

 

Given Bioware's open-world stumbles with DA:I, any mention of 'hundreds of explorable worlds!' in the rumored Andromeda leaks does not exactly sound like a selling point to me. It makes me more nervous than excited. Quality trumps quantity for me.


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I think skyrim success was mainly due to it being mod friendly as apossed to being open world, a thing most other developers haven't seemed to have picked up on yet.



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Skyrim,Oblivion and Fallout3/4 sold alot more on consoles than PC, mods on PC just made them more popular and kept them relevant. No one does open world like Rockstar and Bethesda and it's why they are popular. Just because you prefer other types of games doesn't mean everyone else does.

 

As for Andromeda, i really have no expectations at all. Pulling off an openworld game is hard to pull off, it needs a little extra something. An attention to detail and how the missions are built around it rather than the other way around. I liked DA:I but as an open world game it's pretty mediocre, it always felt like it was open world just because.

 

Who knows if they've learned their lesson with Andromeda, exploring space could be a lot of fun but could also end up being dull, uninteresting and just not Mass Effect "enough"


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Skyrim,Oblivion and Fallout3/4 sold alot more on consoles than PC, mods on PC just made them more popular and kept them relevant. No one does open world like Rockstar and Bethesda and it's why they are popular. Just because you prefer other types of games doesn't mean everyone else does.

 

As for Andromeda, i really have no expectations at all. Pulling off an openworld game is hard to pull off, it needs a little extra something. An attention to detail and how the missions are built around it rather than the other way around. I liked DA:I but as an open world game it's pretty mediocre, it always felt like it was open world just because.

 

Who knows if they've learned their lesson with Andromeda, exploring space could be a lot of fun but could also end up being dull, uninteresting and just not Mass Effect "enough"

 

Yea. I actually enjoyed the open world in DAI but I don't think it would work in Mass Effect. 

 

It's one thing to explore parts ONE continent (Thedas) that I've always wanted to see since Dragon Age Origins.

 

It's another to limit most gameplay to a couple of zones when I'm supposed to be exploring a GALAXY.

 

I'd prefer the style employed in ME2/ME3 to continue.



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I think skyrim success was mainly due to it being mod friendly as apossed to being open world, a thing most other developers haven't seemed to have picked up on yet.

 

This is actually somewhat true, at least in the longevity aspect.



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This is actually somewhat true, at least in the longevity aspect.

New Vegas is 5 years old and I'm still playing it thanks to mods.



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New Vegas is 5 years old and I'm still playing it thanks to mods.

 

Civ5 here.



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One thing I know Andromeda WILL be good it may not be mind blowing it certainly will be divisive (recent BW games always have been for fans and critics alike) it will no doubt fall short of our high expectations (and maybe meet a some lower ones) but it will not be a terrible game. 

 

 

Bioware don't do terrible and in the unhighly event that Bioware suddenly metamorphose into a Spiders quality dev I will eat my N7  badge and record me doing so on youtube in fact I'll eat with Ketchup and tofu (two things I really hate)  just to prove how confident I am this game will at the very least be just plain good.


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I think skyrim success was mainly due to it being mod friendly as apossed to being open world, a thing most other developers haven't seemed to have picked up on yet.

>Implying the bulk of Skyrim's success came from sales of the PC version


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